2016 Postmortem

1StrongBlackMan

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244. If I may ...

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:47 PM

Jul 2015

and the point being made was not about the shocking fact that the NH audience was overwhelmingly white; but rather, EVERYWHERE he had/has gone mirrored/mirrors that audience ... and, this, while explaining away the lack of support among PoC was because he was largely unknown to PoC.

And, as I have said ... more than a few times ... it is smart strategy, to stay in front of audiences with whom you know your message resonates (i.e., regions that are largely white, upper-middle class, and educated); rather than, venture outside of those zones (i.e., non-white, non-upper middle, lesser educated), and risk proving that your assumptions about your message are wrong, and don't resonate outside of those zones/demographics.

Should that happen, it would be primary campaign game over.

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Hillary Clinton addresses white crowd in New Hampshire [View all] BrotherIvan Jul 2015 OP

Lol. Agschmid Jul 2015 #1

And sadly, the Poster that posted ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #57

Why don't you address your post to me? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #66

Brother Ivan ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #73

Well, I guess the truth has finally come out BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #82

Yeah ... okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #95

And your ego has blinded you BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #126

It's not my "ego" it's my life's experience ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #166

"I care very much about ALL issues that affect ALL PoC" BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #171

And, this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #208

I and other PoC on this board who have been trying to talk to you are not BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #223

Whoa, 1SBM, I see this sentence from Post 126 and am disgusted at what R B Garr Jul 2015 #203

I couldn't agree more with everything you've said here. Number23 Jul 2015 #209

Not a problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #210

I'm Arab shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #172

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #195

If you're so upset with a so-called "racist campaign" conducted seven years ago..... George II Jul 2015 #129

I think he expected it to look the same as a Sanders rally in the same area. And it does. bravenak Jul 2015 #134

But I didn't see any "Bernie Sanders addresses a white crowd in New Hampshire" posts from him. George II Jul 2015 #139

Other people wrote the posts about Bernie having all white crowds. bravenak Jul 2015 #147

I think you are confused BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #148

No one does. So why do you feel it so important to point it out? George II Jul 2015 #153

herp Desert805 Jul 2015 #176

Then why didn't you say that in the OP, but only when called out on it? George II Jul 2015 #177

If this post is 'F'ed up, then so were all those posts claiming that sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #240

Because that was not the point being made in those posts ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #241

I've never seen any explanation as to why there is anything sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #243

Because Jesse Jackson didn't poll poorly with blacks mythology Jul 2015 #257

omg, the anti-intellectualism about his issue is truly stunning. R B Garr Jul 2015 #242

If I may ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #244

You have made excellent points. National cross-over appeal is R B Garr Jul 2015 #247

We are witnessing, denial. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #248

I think you are not aware of the agenda at play here. Most of us are, but thanks sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #245

"Most of us are," I see you make proclamations on a regular basis that R B Garr Jul 2015 #246

That poster continues to miss the point, to the point that I no longer believe it is inadvertent ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #249

Yes! I have noticed that same thing and also believe it is intentional. R B Garr Jul 2015 #250

Nailed it. zappaman Jul 2015 #253

People can be anything they want on the internet....! MADem Jul 2015 #254

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #258

You are a good soul. MADem Jul 2015 #259

This is hilarious, its not about crowd diversity... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #63

OH MY GAWD!!!! A candidate spoke at a nursing home, and the only people in the audience were.... MADem Jul 2015 #256

Looks all white. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #2

Some of us really don't. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #43

Because we remember BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #52

Well said. zentrum Jul 2015 #61

Yes we do. And she and her cheerleaders have yet to apologize or make amends. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #72

Thank you BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #97

The polls say otherwise. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #64

Same polls that had her beating Obama? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #68

2 things: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #71

She started out very strong vs Obama in early AA polling. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #80

Gee, you mean Hillary lost to arguably the greatest campaigner in US history?? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #93

Sanders is picking up where Dean left off... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #105

The polls say otherwise. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #137

if you think Dean is great.... BooScout Jul 2015 #140

i knew Dean was a centrist London Lover Man Jul 2015 #192

Yeah, Clinton over Obama by 10 point, Clinton over Sanders by 30+. Works out just fine to me. George II Jul 2015 #146

Are you being sarcastic? George II Jul 2015 #142

When Sanders supporters asked what you are asking in the body of your post the answer cui bono Jul 2015 #151

"No more white than the crowd Sanders addressed in New Hampshire in May" HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #157

Do you not get sarcasm??? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #159

As a hit post, and when called out on it by more than one person (several, in fact), its...... George II Jul 2015 #167

So you think BrotherIvan is really race baiting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #169

Nope - that wasn't in his OP, and only appeared once he was called out on it. Nice track covering. George II Jul 2015 #178

It's a response thread, and anyone who reads here Desert805 Jul 2015 #180

Now he's covering his tracks? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #181

Ever see this? George II Jul 2015 #185

If you read all of the posts in this thread and still needed a smilie to clue you in... beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #187

Yawn...you cover up better than Haldermann and Erlichmann. Bye. George II Jul 2015 #194

Yeah, that's what I thought. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #196

Are you trying to be this wrong? Desert805 Jul 2015 #179

I see what you did. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #3

Oh good BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #6

And very nicely done too. Scuba Jul 2015 #41

Does anyone have the jury results? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #44

Oh, we recognize this, not in denial, and yes she marched for Civil Rights Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #4

Personally with Martin Luther King, Jr in 1963? London Lover Man Jul 2015 #15

Well, I think that she was trying to remember something Gman Jul 2015 #58

Yes Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #87

Actually she was still in high school in 1963. But she was a strong advocate for Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #86

Given the composition of New Hampshire, is this a surprise? guillaumeb Jul 2015 #5

No, it's not BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #7

Apparently it's only a surprise when Sanders is the one speaking. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #17

You also remember that similar post about Sanders? eom guillaumeb Jul 2015 #23

+1 historylovr Jul 2015 #26

Badda bing! nt valerief Jul 2015 #49

Except his crowd in AL looked just like his crowds in NH BainsBane Jul 2015 #69

And Madison and everywhere else he has spoken ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #83

He wasn't there BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #100

No, I haven't been told that time and time again BainsBane Jul 2015 #108

Ding ding ding Alittleliberal Jul 2015 #81

There is at least one black couple last photo left center. DCBob Jul 2015 #8

Great! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #11

Don't see it. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #13

Look closer.. they are there. DCBob Jul 2015 #14

MS Paint it. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #16

Im on phone.. expand the image.. they are there. DCBob Jul 2015 #28

Those are two men - one in a suit, other in plaid shirt. Divernan Jul 2015 #101

Nope. Not a single POC Divernan Jul 2015 #22

I clearly see 2 in the bottom photo. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #67

But yet, you can't describe where they are, what they're wearing, or Divernan Jul 2015 #94

Bottom photo, in front of the window on the left, wearing a green shirt. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #98

You said there were 2, now you say there's one. Divernan Jul 2015 #115

And the person next to him. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #133

Are You Guys Seriously Playing "Where's Waldo" In This Thread ??? WillyT Jul 2015 #138

LOL. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #141

Tis the silly season, for sure! Divernan Jul 2015 #149

Exactly my point, London Lover Man Jul 2015 #190

Of course you do. 840high Jul 2015 #216

Less than 1,000 is my guess London Lover Man Jul 2015 #9

Looks like <300. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #30

Perhaps mostly white people live in this area FloridaBlues Jul 2015 #10

Yes, that is correct BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #12

I lived near there and it is probably above 90% white. tymorial Jul 2015 #37

Bingo! whathehell Jul 2015 #53

And she has many other events with diverse crowds JI7 Jul 2015 #18

I barely looked at those photos and still saw poc in every last one of them Number23 Jul 2015 #27

Obama had to campaign hard for the black vote JI7 Jul 2015 #32

I don't expect to see a lot of people of color in New Hampshire or Iowa BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #42

I agree. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #51

I always thought Utah and Delaware should be the first two states yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #132

They're not ver diverse either BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #155

The problem is most diverse areas would be too yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #162

NJ is pretty diverse. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #165

Good ideas BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #184

California is even more expensive, just because of the size. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #202

We are condensed here JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #227

how many times must we do this? restorefreedom Jul 2015 #50

Isn't that a terrorist palm jab in the second pic? corkhead Jul 2015 #19

But it's terrable when bernie sanders speaks to white only crowd Robbins Jul 2015 #20

Not good enough, Hillary! n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #21

Yeah! cui bono Jul 2015 #60

You should have posted a link to the thread. That one's always fun to drag back out into the light. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #96

Bwahahahaha. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #24

Was this where she was interrupted by an environmental activist yelling at her? Autumn Jul 2015 #25

Suggest the "all white audience" crowd okasha Jul 2015 #29

Can you provide the more appropriate, "truthful" pictures whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #34

Can't do links or pictures on the phone. okasha Jul 2015 #48

You mean they're all in the back? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #36

OMGZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Monday she spoke only about economics and now this?????????? cui bono Jul 2015 #31

Hrumph! They must have bussed them in. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #33

She was in Dover tymorial Jul 2015 #35

Correct BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #38

you must have missed the 'Bernie's bad optics wars' n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #40

Isn't that where the White Cliffs are? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #55

Aye up. PoC make up 6% of NH total population of 2.5M sarge43 Jul 2015 #92

Somewhere I read that sarcasm is a sign of genius. pangaia Jul 2015 #39

If this was anyone but you, BrotherIvan... beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #45

I don't count BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #46

I remember. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #47

I posted that there were an awful lot of white people at one of bernie's speeches and moobu2 Jul 2015 #54

I'm sure if you alert on this one it will be too BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #56

I've never reported a thread moobu2 Jul 2015 #59

Good. cui bono Jul 2015 #62

Brilliant Kalidurga Jul 2015 #65

the thread you're mocking was about a Sanders rally in a town with 70% plus black population bigtree Jul 2015 #70

No, OP is mocking the Hillary supporters poutrage that Sanders drew white people to a NH rally. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #75

you and the op are inventing your own reasons for their criticism bigtree Jul 2015 #88

Thank you. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #114

A voice of reason. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #76

the point about support is lost in the defensiveness bigtree Jul 2015 #99

Every single appearance has been scrutinized BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #78

That scrutiny is called national politics... Get used to it. Agschmid Jul 2015 #79

Ah, we're back to the beginning BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #85

I think you mean "our" candidate. Agschmid Jul 2015 #89

Not likely. n/t cui bono Jul 2015 #104

You do understand that all different types of people support candidates... Agschmid Jul 2015 #111

I said nothing about monoliths or people who have come out of the closet so I'm not cui bono Jul 2015 #117

You know exactly what I'm getting at and I'm sick of it. Agschmid Jul 2015 #120

I have absolutely no idea. What are you sick of? cui bono Jul 2015 #122

It was. Agschmid Jul 2015 #127

Yes, but you seem to have misinterpreted it. cui bono Jul 2015 #131

We are. Agschmid Jul 2015 #136

Oh really... cui bono Jul 2015 #143

Really. Agschmid Jul 2015 #144

if you criticized the others, you're being deliberately hypocritical with this post bigtree Jul 2015 #91

This post is not to criticize Hillary BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #107

Oh so it's meta then? Agschmid Jul 2015 #112

back to respond bigtree Jul 2015 #113

I don't understand your first sentence BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #121

I know you don't understand bigtree Jul 2015 #125

Perhaps I am tired of being told what to think BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #130

I've not made either of those criticisms of you bigtree Jul 2015 #156

Look upthread, this isn't new BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #164

hmm bigtree Jul 2015 #175

Sure BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #189

It's called sarcasm. And it is also following a long held DU tradition of copy cat OPs. cui bono Jul 2015 #118

"But they don't look like the rest of America" (when Bernie spoke in NH) PotatoChip Jul 2015 #170

link? bigtree Jul 2015 #183

What town was he in that had a 70% black population? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #198

back to the deflection du jour bigtree Jul 2015 #207

I was seriously asking the question BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #218

back to arguing with your own premise bigtree Jul 2015 #221

It's quite obvious that you have missed more than a few threads BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #224

I was sent this link to share BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #226

Wow, amazing thread LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #235

you obviously didn't take heed of my own response - likely too caught up in your own narrative bigtree Jul 2015 #236

HEY!!!! 96% of the population of New Hampshire is WHITE! What's your point? George II Jul 2015 #74

Which is why Sanders drew white people to his NH rally. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #77

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #84

Never thought race baiting would be acceptable on Democratic Underground George II Jul 2015 #102

Is this performance art? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #109

When have I NOT had a problem with race baiting? You said it, now let's see it, okay? George II Jul 2015 #123

Oh, my bad. You must have missed this epic thread: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #150

Looks like she is winning over some of Bernie's base oberliner Jul 2015 #90

You won! nt artislife Jul 2015 #116

great pic! bbgrunt Jul 2015 #158

haha... cui bono Jul 2015 #119

LOL! bravenak Jul 2015 #161

Moving in on Bernie's turf I see. William769 Jul 2015 #103

Ok... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #106

K&R SamKnause Jul 2015 #110

Well, Brother Ivan, when I attended sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #124

what a bait thread... BooScout Jul 2015 #128

Yeah shenmue Jul 2015 #152

Two more WHOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHes kath Jul 2015 #213

Exactly. Proud anti-intellectualism is as RW as it gets, R B Garr Jul 2015 #234

LOL !!! - DUzy !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #135

No way Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #232

What is this CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #145

It really is as simple as that BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #160

aint that the truth CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #174

There is an assumption that we can't make up our own minds BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #182

makes you think what they think of us when those doors are shut CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #188

I couldn't agree more BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #193

Well said CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #199

Nitpick - you may have misread the graph. it's Asians that have the $67K median income, white's is kath Jul 2015 #211

Yes CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #220

Hey, I love Bernie too. Was just pointing out about the graph. kath Jul 2015 #222

I love the way the poster seemed to emphasized "white people" as if Hillary was addressing demosincebirth Jul 2015 #154

But but but... 99Forever Jul 2015 #163

Hmm, who did I hear this about before? ybbor Jul 2015 #168

This is an ugly post. Pointless really. redstateblues Jul 2015 #173

Not at all pointless ibegurpard Jul 2015 #206

WELL! It turns out there were PoC in the crowd after all. LOL! KittyWampus Jul 2015 #186

lol CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #191

Kitty started her own thread to prove BrotherIvan wrong. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #197

Really OMG CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #200

Thanks for the mention! KittyWampus Jul 2015 #204

Hey, no prob. We all needed a good laugh. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #205

Wow. Just wow. kath Jul 2015 #215

So now we're playing "where's Waldo?"again?? kath Jul 2015 #214

As you so kindly pointed out - 3 people of color. 840high Jul 2015 #217

I only watched a few seconds. Why don't you watch longer and do an actual head count? KittyWampus Jul 2015 #219

EBONY AND IVORY DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #201

bigtree, link for you slipslidingaway Jul 2015 #212

You should reply to bigtree because he can't see your post BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #225

Good photos of Hillary's townhall but riversedge Jul 2015 #228

Hey, it just isn't true that there are no black people in my state. nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #229

Watch the Cspan video Gothmog Jul 2015 #230

She speaks to all segments of society... NCTraveler Jul 2015 #231

This is a grotesquely unfair post MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #233

Anyone got the jury results? Autumn Jul 2015 #237

NH is 94.2% White. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #238

no kidding. Brother Ivan knows this. this is in response to the Hillary supporters m-lekktor Jul 2015 #252

i did miss that thread, if i had seen it, i would probably say something similar. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #255

there goes one of the hillarians poutrages Doctor_J Jul 2015 #239

Idiotic post for one reason matt819 Jul 2015 #251

Agreed BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #260