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162. With Bernie we all win

Reply to JoePhilly (Reply #154)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:58 PM

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If elected, Hillary may be the most ineffective POTUS in our lifetime [View all] Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 OP

Bernie won't have this problem since the unicorns flying across the sky will distract the GOP. DanTex Jul 2015 #1

Good one! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #4

Just being pragmatic... Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #7

Pretending the GOP won't obstruct Bernie just as much is not "pragmatic," it's "delusional". DanTex Jul 2015 #8

This is about Hillary as a polarizing figure. Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #15

Is there any evidence that right-wingers will cooperate with Bernie? Of course not. DanTex Jul 2015 #21

Unfortunately, the RW has a vendetta against Hillary Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #22

They pick up new vendettas pretty quickly. For example, with Obama. DanTex Jul 2015 #24

Indeed! So why throw them red meat for the next faux scandal? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #31

There will be plenty of red meat and faux scandals no matter who is President. DanTex Jul 2015 #33

Experience dealing with being obstructed? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #38

Experience with GOP attacks and faux scandals. DanTex Jul 2015 #43

Can you imagine any Democrat they would actually like? whathehell Jul 2015 #203

She is the right wing wet dream! pocoloco Jul 2015 #94

What is your point? The Republicans will attempt to ladjf Jul 2015 #44

That Republican obstructionism isn't a reason to favor one candidate over another, because it will DanTex Jul 2015 #46

OK, I missed our point earlier. That makes sense. ladjf Jul 2015 #47

No, it's about Senator Sanders...surely you know that since you stole the premise from me... George II Jul 2015 #81

He is going to campaign against them, call them on their bullshit Cosmocat Jul 2015 #30

But they will experience a complete meta noya through Bernie! Walk away Jul 2015 #55

metanoya: n. change in one's way of life resulting from repentance Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #108

It is an expression that is commonly used to discribe a change in the way.... Walk away Jul 2015 #185

They'll try to impeach her for Benghazi. CrispyQ Jul 2015 #107

Pragmatic? I don't think that word means what you think it means stevenleser Jul 2015 #143

Bernie won't have this problem since the unicorns flying across the sky will distract the GOP. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #17

Flying unicorns??? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #19

Don't worry, be happy... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #26

LOL! OhZone Jul 2015 #50

That is funny. yardwork Jul 2015 #67

+100. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2015 #83

If Bernie is elected he will bring with him to Washington INdemo Jul 2015 #84

The senate is a big longshot in 2016 and the House is out of play until 2022 at the earliest due to stevenleser Jul 2015 #111

Agree about the house, but I think "longshot" is too pessimistic for the senate. DanTex Jul 2015 #116

Because a Jewish Socialist will be embraced by the troglodyte right. greenman3610 Jul 2015 #87

Ahahahaha!!! JoePhilly Jul 2015 #88

Nice lol Sheepshank Jul 2015 #113

Too true.. those sparkly unicorns will dazzle 'em. Cha Jul 2015 #200

K&R 99Forever Jul 2015 #2

yeah, i mean, look how ineffective obama has been unblock Jul 2015 #3

Looks like that's pretty much the argument... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #5

Well, they can't wait for Clinton. GoneOffShore Jul 2015 #75

I'm a Bernie supporter at this point, but I have every confidence in Hillary's ass-kicking capacity whathehell Jul 2015 #204

The premise is that right-wingers... Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #10

they'd be assh*les if we nominated the corpse of ronald reagan! unblock Jul 2015 #16

Hillary is a right-wing punching bag. Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #18

Anyone we nominate will be a right wing punching bag. Carter was, Bill was, Gore was, Kerry was, stevenleser Jul 2015 #145

"aren't... getting" aspirant Jul 2015 #152

You know Sanders has gone on Fox, right? Recursion Jul 2015 #193

Bernie has a reason. aspirant Jul 2015 #199

"one person says something" aspirant Jul 2015 #202

Add this, same thread aspirant Jul 2015 #205

Don't know if you've noticed okasha Jul 2015 #155

I thought she lost the Presidental Primary aspirant Jul 2015 #165

Obama is not a Republican okasha Jul 2015 #172

Imagine that aspirant Jul 2015 #173

Whoever gets elected Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #6

Yes, but Hillary is particulary polarizing Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #12

So say the republicans Cosmocat Jul 2015 #27

THe POINT is that the RW already has history of obstructing Hillary Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #36

The POINT is ... Cosmocat Jul 2015 #40

Sanders will call out republicans, and campaign against their reelections fbc Jul 2015 #9

+1 Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #13

The Rs in the South will be terrified if Bernie redstateblues Jul 2015 #90

Yeah, actually I'm leaning toward Trump or Cruz. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #11

That's the spirit! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #14

2 words Botany Jul 2015 #20

Ummm? Republicans will confirm Hillary nominees? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #25

thats a bullshit statement rtracey Jul 2015 #56

Oh for the love of dog Botany Jul 2015 #69

And they'd confirm a Sanders nominee? MineralMan Jul 2015 #97

Of for crying out loud ... Cosmocat Jul 2015 #23

"Scorpion and frog ..." DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #28

So is Hillary is the frog or the scorpion? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #37

Huh DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #42

What "republican meme"??? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #29

Uh, YEAH Cosmocat Jul 2015 #32

"No, you're not a good progressive if your vote openly assists the Republicans winning in 2016" Peacetrain Jul 2015 #34

So Let's just vote for a Republican jehop61 Jul 2015 #35

Or... support Bernie! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #39

At least Bernie know how to use the bully pulpit. -none Jul 2015 #60

Exactly! peacebird Jul 2015 #63

According to whom? His prior executive experience was as a small city mayor with a city council that stevenleser Jul 2015 #148

And Hillary's in Congress? -none Jul 2015 #160

She's not promising the earth and moon to progressives, is she? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #161

Because she can't be pinned down as to where she stands on important items. -none Jul 2015 #166

None of that distraction changes the fact that Bernie has no track record using the bully pulpit to stevenleser Jul 2015 #167

Just like Obama aspirant Jul 2015 #170

The why the following? -none Jul 2015 #175

No, just the ordinary status quo aspirant Jul 2015 #168

Or, nominate another candidate. Dawgs Jul 2015 #45

I would hope so. Scuba Jul 2015 #41

by your logic quickesst Jul 2015 #48

I hadn't heard about his charm and smooth talk. Control-Z Jul 2015 #171

Bernie will have the Veto pen aspirant Jul 2015 #174

So... quickesst Jul 2015 #186

"how can Bernie get anything done" your words aspirant Jul 2015 #192

and Clinton wont? quickesst Jul 2015 #207

...this is a monumentally stupid premise Godhumor Jul 2015 #49

Sounds like Chafee is your guy. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #51

My Step-Brother (that will remain unnamed) is a US Congressman. Lochloosa Jul 2015 #52

You seem to forget that if that were the case, then nothing would change Perseus Jul 2015 #53

I suggest you read "Bill Clinton is sorry for a lot of Things" Skwmom Jul 2015 #209

ANY AND EVERY DEMOCRAT will suffer similar variations of hate and propaganda attacks by the GOP! OhZone Jul 2015 #54

BS. nt boston bean Jul 2015 #57

IN OUR LIFETIME !! sufrommich Jul 2015 #58

Meh, they managed to hate Obama too. They hate ALL Democrats. Do you think they will play Metric System Jul 2015 #59

So will Bernie - but whoever wins will move the national dialogue (Bernie is better here) and will MillennialDem Jul 2015 #61

Obama got stuff done without Republicans. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #62

Like the TPA? aspirant Jul 2015 #109

Hillary is NOT a Polarizing Figure! Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #64

Wow. LWolf Jul 2015 #164

You want a candidate who will get the support of Republicans? oberliner Jul 2015 #65

Please Hillary, PLEASE!! You're ruining it for everyone! LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #66

You either forgot your sarcasm thingy leftynyc Jul 2015 #141

You have absolutely no idea what she'll be like as President GitRDun Jul 2015 #68

I want to gouge my eyes out Cosmocat Jul 2015 #76

Lol GitRDun Jul 2015 #184

"no idea" then why vote for her? aspirant Jul 2015 #112

But a "democratic socialist" who doesn't call himself a Democrat is going to unite the country. Buzz Clik Jul 2015 #70

A Capitalist, Corporatist Wall street Lover will unite the country aspirant Jul 2015 #115

Wow. Buzz Clik Jul 2015 #129

He's off to a good start. Once people learn who is and see his long, consistent sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #187

Sounds like you're describing Obama rock Jul 2015 #71

Not true. Hillary and the Republicans will work together to make Wall St. more profitable. jalan48 Jul 2015 #72

So, you're saying Mitch McConnell and John Boehner would be best buds with Bernie Sanders? blue neen Jul 2015 #73

This doesn't really make a lot of sense. MineralMan Jul 2015 #74

Easy there bucko Cosmocat Jul 2015 #77

I have no choice. Reality is where I must live. MineralMan Jul 2015 #79

Search for your spiritual self, it is eternal aspirant Jul 2015 #123

I have just one self. I don't believe in spirits or other non-physical MineralMan Jul 2015 #126

This is DU aspirant Jul 2015 #132

Of course you are free to write as you please. MineralMan Jul 2015 #134

An awakening can happen at any moment aspirant Jul 2015 #137

Uff da! MineralMan Jul 2015 #139

"say" aspirant Jul 2015 #177

Bernie has never classified himself as a "moderate Republican" aspirant Jul 2015 #120

Then you should support Senator Sanders in the primaries, MineralMan Jul 2015 #125

You're not welcome aspirant Jul 2015 #135

But I am free to tell you anything I wish. MineralMan Jul 2015 #136

Practice what you preach aspirant Jul 2015 #140

Nice copy job, where's your originality? Can't you come up with your own material? Sheesh. George II Jul 2015 #78

I have been here for twelve years and I have never seen a poster purloin another poster's work. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #121

In this very thread right above us, Mineral Man used the very same name-switching JimDandy Jul 2015 #144

Clearly the OP is throwing your words back in your face JimDandy Jul 2015 #131

Doubt it, otherwise the OP would have referenced my words. Plagiarism, plain and simple. George II Jul 2015 #133

The point is to NOT reference your opponents words JimDandy Jul 2015 #138

That's an exquisite excuse for plagiarism. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #169

The SCOTUS has upheld that using parody/satire to ridicule and expose the shortcomings of a JimDandy Jul 2015 #196

I'm going to have to agree with you now that it's plagiarism. JimDandy Jul 2015 #194

I'm sure the five Hillary supporters see it differently Android3.14 Jul 2015 #80

In your mind, will any of the 20+ republicans qualify ahead of Hillary Clinton? George II Jul 2015 #122

In your mind, do you think your question is going to illicit a useful response? Android3.14 Jul 2015 #156

My question was prompted by this: George II Jul 2015 #157

And? Android3.14 Jul 2015 #158

Hmm with that logic MyNameGoesHere Jul 2015 #82

What about Bill... KoKo Jul 2015 #85

+1 EXACTLY Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #98

Or she could be the greatest. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #86

Disappointment ever aspirant Jul 2015 #127

DU's perpetually disgruntled will be disappointed no matter who wins. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #154

With Bernie we all win aspirant Jul 2015 #162

The instant he compromises ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #181

Bernie's veto pen, aspirant Jul 2015 #182

Plus... she sucks. AzDar Jul 2015 #89

Project much... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #118

ANY Democrat will receive 100% resistance from the GOP Zambero Jul 2015 #91

Disagree that Hillary would be received "no differently" Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #96

maybe we could work and win the senate and house back rurallib Jul 2015 #92

with all due respect have you lived in a cave for the last 23 years? dsc Jul 2015 #93

Hillary will galvinize republican voters Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #101

so what happened with Obama? dsc Jul 2015 #114

I find it fascinating that you referred to Hillary as... Chalco Jul 2015 #95

Fascinating? Are you cereal? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #99

"I was assured these talking points were thoroughly proofred." Renew Deal Jul 2015 #104

So maybe you and your proofreader... Chalco Jul 2015 #106

LOL JimDandy Jul 2015 #149

Are you suggesting her "slip was showing" ? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #100

ZERO support of republicans liberal N proud Jul 2015 #102

Your post shows your naivete Renew Deal Jul 2015 #103

You can hold on for your dear life aspirant Jul 2015 #142

That includes Bernie Renew Deal Jul 2015 #147

It's the people and the Revolution aspirant Jul 2015 #150

So in other words... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #105

LOL! zappaman Jul 2015 #110

As a Sanders supporter, I find this OP very unhelpful. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #117

Spot on! zappaman Jul 2015 #119

Hold on a sec HassleCat Jul 2015 #124

Do you think Bernie's veto pen aspirant Jul 2015 #146

Of course not HassleCat Jul 2015 #151

Which sore loser Dems? aspirant Jul 2015 #153

With a headline like that.... NCTraveler Jul 2015 #128

Have you read the information republicans have developed on Bernie? I will stick with the scandals Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #130

Bull feces. The next prez will likley get to pick 2-3 SCOTUS judges Persondem Jul 2015 #159

... and Bernie's veto pen aspirant Jul 2015 #163

So the socialist will be bff with the Republicans?? DCBob Jul 2015 #176

I think she'll be effective in the same way that Obama has been FiveGoodMen Jul 2015 #178

Just like the e-mails aspirant Jul 2015 #179

The premis in the OP and the follow up posts is just plain silly. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #180

Okay. I'll alert the media. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2015 #183

Good Gawd I hope Bernie isn't looking to his supporters for sound arguments. great white snark Jul 2015 #188

Or... as the latest lead in the Neoliberal Kabuki Theater, covertly supported by both parties, whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #189

Hillary's a no nonsense leader with a "can do" attitude. oasis Jul 2015 #190

The republicans will act like that no matter what. bravenak Jul 2015 #191

a Black Man energizes Republicans more than Hillary Clinton would JI7 Jul 2015 #195

i wish you would do some more poll analysis , your last ones were very informative JI7 Jul 2015 #197

Maybe we can get Sarah Palin to defect ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #198

Even more ineffective than Gerald Ford? Doubt that. John Poet Jul 2015 #201

Republicans won't give Democrats a goddamned thing. It doesn't matter what democrat it is. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #206

She'll get plenty done for her big money backers with the help of Skwmom Jul 2015 #208