2016 Postmortem

aspirant

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163. ... and Bernie's veto pen

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:10 PM

Jul 2015

will continually stop devastating trade bills, Banksters giveaways and austerity budgets.

Don't forget about an AG appointment that will actually prosecute and jail Wall Street and corporate crooks. Hillary will give us more of the same

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If elected, Hillary may be the most ineffective POTUS in our lifetime [View all] Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 OP

Bernie won't have this problem since the unicorns flying across the sky will distract the GOP. DanTex Jul 2015 #1

Good one! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #4

Just being pragmatic... Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #7

Pretending the GOP won't obstruct Bernie just as much is not "pragmatic," it's "delusional". DanTex Jul 2015 #8

This is about Hillary as a polarizing figure. Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #15

Is there any evidence that right-wingers will cooperate with Bernie? Of course not. DanTex Jul 2015 #21

Unfortunately, the RW has a vendetta against Hillary Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #22

They pick up new vendettas pretty quickly. For example, with Obama. DanTex Jul 2015 #24

Indeed! So why throw them red meat for the next faux scandal? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #31

There will be plenty of red meat and faux scandals no matter who is President. DanTex Jul 2015 #33

Experience dealing with being obstructed? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #38

Experience with GOP attacks and faux scandals. DanTex Jul 2015 #43

Can you imagine any Democrat they would actually like? whathehell Jul 2015 #203

She is the right wing wet dream! pocoloco Jul 2015 #94

What is your point? The Republicans will attempt to ladjf Jul 2015 #44

That Republican obstructionism isn't a reason to favor one candidate over another, because it will DanTex Jul 2015 #46

OK, I missed our point earlier. That makes sense. ladjf Jul 2015 #47

No, it's about Senator Sanders...surely you know that since you stole the premise from me... George II Jul 2015 #81

He is going to campaign against them, call them on their bullshit Cosmocat Jul 2015 #30

But they will experience a complete meta noya through Bernie! Walk away Jul 2015 #55

metanoya: n. change in one's way of life resulting from repentance Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #108

It is an expression that is commonly used to discribe a change in the way.... Walk away Jul 2015 #185

They'll try to impeach her for Benghazi. CrispyQ Jul 2015 #107

Pragmatic? I don't think that word means what you think it means stevenleser Jul 2015 #143

Bernie won't have this problem since the unicorns flying across the sky will distract the GOP. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #17

Flying unicorns??? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #19

Don't worry, be happy... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #26

LOL! OhZone Jul 2015 #50

That is funny. yardwork Jul 2015 #67

+100. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2015 #83

If Bernie is elected he will bring with him to Washington INdemo Jul 2015 #84

The senate is a big longshot in 2016 and the House is out of play until 2022 at the earliest due to stevenleser Jul 2015 #111

Agree about the house, but I think "longshot" is too pessimistic for the senate. DanTex Jul 2015 #116

Because a Jewish Socialist will be embraced by the troglodyte right. greenman3610 Jul 2015 #87

Ahahahaha!!! JoePhilly Jul 2015 #88

Nice lol Sheepshank Jul 2015 #113

Too true.. those sparkly unicorns will dazzle 'em. Cha Jul 2015 #200

K&R 99Forever Jul 2015 #2

yeah, i mean, look how ineffective obama has been unblock Jul 2015 #3

Looks like that's pretty much the argument... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #5

Well, they can't wait for Clinton. GoneOffShore Jul 2015 #75

I'm a Bernie supporter at this point, but I have every confidence in Hillary's ass-kicking capacity whathehell Jul 2015 #204

The premise is that right-wingers... Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #10

they'd be assh*les if we nominated the corpse of ronald reagan! unblock Jul 2015 #16

Hillary is a right-wing punching bag. Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #18

Anyone we nominate will be a right wing punching bag. Carter was, Bill was, Gore was, Kerry was, stevenleser Jul 2015 #145

"aren't... getting" aspirant Jul 2015 #152

You know Sanders has gone on Fox, right? Recursion Jul 2015 #193

Bernie has a reason. aspirant Jul 2015 #199

"one person says something" aspirant Jul 2015 #202

Add this, same thread aspirant Jul 2015 #205

Don't know if you've noticed okasha Jul 2015 #155

I thought she lost the Presidental Primary aspirant Jul 2015 #165

Obama is not a Republican okasha Jul 2015 #172

Imagine that aspirant Jul 2015 #173

Whoever gets elected Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #6

Yes, but Hillary is particulary polarizing Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #12

So say the republicans Cosmocat Jul 2015 #27

THe POINT is that the RW already has history of obstructing Hillary Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #36

The POINT is ... Cosmocat Jul 2015 #40

Sanders will call out republicans, and campaign against their reelections fbc Jul 2015 #9

+1 Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #13

The Rs in the South will be terrified if Bernie redstateblues Jul 2015 #90

Yeah, actually I'm leaning toward Trump or Cruz. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #11

That's the spirit! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #14

2 words Botany Jul 2015 #20

Ummm? Republicans will confirm Hillary nominees? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #25

thats a bullshit statement rtracey Jul 2015 #56

Oh for the love of dog Botany Jul 2015 #69

And they'd confirm a Sanders nominee? MineralMan Jul 2015 #97

Of for crying out loud ... Cosmocat Jul 2015 #23

"Scorpion and frog ..." DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #28

So is Hillary is the frog or the scorpion? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #37

Huh DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #42

What "republican meme"??? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #29

Uh, YEAH Cosmocat Jul 2015 #32

"No, you're not a good progressive if your vote openly assists the Republicans winning in 2016" Peacetrain Jul 2015 #34

So Let's just vote for a Republican jehop61 Jul 2015 #35

Or... support Bernie! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #39

At least Bernie know how to use the bully pulpit. -none Jul 2015 #60

Exactly! peacebird Jul 2015 #63

According to whom? His prior executive experience was as a small city mayor with a city council that stevenleser Jul 2015 #148

And Hillary's in Congress? -none Jul 2015 #160

She's not promising the earth and moon to progressives, is she? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #161

Because she can't be pinned down as to where she stands on important items. -none Jul 2015 #166

None of that distraction changes the fact that Bernie has no track record using the bully pulpit to stevenleser Jul 2015 #167

Just like Obama aspirant Jul 2015 #170

The why the following? -none Jul 2015 #175

No, just the ordinary status quo aspirant Jul 2015 #168

Or, nominate another candidate. Dawgs Jul 2015 #45

I would hope so. Scuba Jul 2015 #41

by your logic quickesst Jul 2015 #48

I hadn't heard about his charm and smooth talk. Control-Z Jul 2015 #171

Bernie will have the Veto pen aspirant Jul 2015 #174

So... quickesst Jul 2015 #186

"how can Bernie get anything done" your words aspirant Jul 2015 #192

and Clinton wont? quickesst Jul 2015 #207

...this is a monumentally stupid premise Godhumor Jul 2015 #49

Sounds like Chafee is your guy. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #51

My Step-Brother (that will remain unnamed) is a US Congressman. Lochloosa Jul 2015 #52

You seem to forget that if that were the case, then nothing would change Perseus Jul 2015 #53

I suggest you read "Bill Clinton is sorry for a lot of Things" Skwmom Jul 2015 #209

ANY AND EVERY DEMOCRAT will suffer similar variations of hate and propaganda attacks by the GOP! OhZone Jul 2015 #54

BS. nt boston bean Jul 2015 #57

IN OUR LIFETIME !! sufrommich Jul 2015 #58

Meh, they managed to hate Obama too. They hate ALL Democrats. Do you think they will play Metric System Jul 2015 #59

So will Bernie - but whoever wins will move the national dialogue (Bernie is better here) and will MillennialDem Jul 2015 #61

Obama got stuff done without Republicans. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #62

Like the TPA? aspirant Jul 2015 #109

Hillary is NOT a Polarizing Figure! Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #64

Wow. LWolf Jul 2015 #164

You want a candidate who will get the support of Republicans? oberliner Jul 2015 #65

Please Hillary, PLEASE!! You're ruining it for everyone! LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #66

You either forgot your sarcasm thingy leftynyc Jul 2015 #141

You have absolutely no idea what she'll be like as President GitRDun Jul 2015 #68

I want to gouge my eyes out Cosmocat Jul 2015 #76

Lol GitRDun Jul 2015 #184

"no idea" then why vote for her? aspirant Jul 2015 #112

But a "democratic socialist" who doesn't call himself a Democrat is going to unite the country. Buzz Clik Jul 2015 #70

A Capitalist, Corporatist Wall street Lover will unite the country aspirant Jul 2015 #115

Wow. Buzz Clik Jul 2015 #129

He's off to a good start. Once people learn who is and see his long, consistent sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #187

Sounds like you're describing Obama rock Jul 2015 #71

Not true. Hillary and the Republicans will work together to make Wall St. more profitable. jalan48 Jul 2015 #72

So, you're saying Mitch McConnell and John Boehner would be best buds with Bernie Sanders? blue neen Jul 2015 #73

This doesn't really make a lot of sense. MineralMan Jul 2015 #74

Easy there bucko Cosmocat Jul 2015 #77

I have no choice. Reality is where I must live. MineralMan Jul 2015 #79

Search for your spiritual self, it is eternal aspirant Jul 2015 #123

I have just one self. I don't believe in spirits or other non-physical MineralMan Jul 2015 #126

This is DU aspirant Jul 2015 #132

Of course you are free to write as you please. MineralMan Jul 2015 #134

An awakening can happen at any moment aspirant Jul 2015 #137

Uff da! MineralMan Jul 2015 #139

"say" aspirant Jul 2015 #177

Bernie has never classified himself as a "moderate Republican" aspirant Jul 2015 #120

Then you should support Senator Sanders in the primaries, MineralMan Jul 2015 #125

You're not welcome aspirant Jul 2015 #135

But I am free to tell you anything I wish. MineralMan Jul 2015 #136

Practice what you preach aspirant Jul 2015 #140

Nice copy job, where's your originality? Can't you come up with your own material? Sheesh. George II Jul 2015 #78

I have been here for twelve years and I have never seen a poster purloin another poster's work. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #121

In this very thread right above us, Mineral Man used the very same name-switching JimDandy Jul 2015 #144

Clearly the OP is throwing your words back in your face JimDandy Jul 2015 #131

Doubt it, otherwise the OP would have referenced my words. Plagiarism, plain and simple. George II Jul 2015 #133

The point is to NOT reference your opponents words JimDandy Jul 2015 #138

That's an exquisite excuse for plagiarism. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #169

The SCOTUS has upheld that using parody/satire to ridicule and expose the shortcomings of a JimDandy Jul 2015 #196

I'm going to have to agree with you now that it's plagiarism. JimDandy Jul 2015 #194

I'm sure the five Hillary supporters see it differently Android3.14 Jul 2015 #80

In your mind, will any of the 20+ republicans qualify ahead of Hillary Clinton? George II Jul 2015 #122

In your mind, do you think your question is going to illicit a useful response? Android3.14 Jul 2015 #156

My question was prompted by this: George II Jul 2015 #157

And? Android3.14 Jul 2015 #158

Hmm with that logic MyNameGoesHere Jul 2015 #82

What about Bill... KoKo Jul 2015 #85

+1 EXACTLY Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #98

Or she could be the greatest. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #86

Disappointment ever aspirant Jul 2015 #127

DU's perpetually disgruntled will be disappointed no matter who wins. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #154

With Bernie we all win aspirant Jul 2015 #162

The instant he compromises ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #181

Bernie's veto pen, aspirant Jul 2015 #182

Plus... she sucks. AzDar Jul 2015 #89

Project much... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #118

ANY Democrat will receive 100% resistance from the GOP Zambero Jul 2015 #91

Disagree that Hillary would be received "no differently" Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #96

maybe we could work and win the senate and house back rurallib Jul 2015 #92

with all due respect have you lived in a cave for the last 23 years? dsc Jul 2015 #93

Hillary will galvinize republican voters Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #101

so what happened with Obama? dsc Jul 2015 #114

I find it fascinating that you referred to Hillary as... Chalco Jul 2015 #95

Fascinating? Are you cereal? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #99

"I was assured these talking points were thoroughly proofred." Renew Deal Jul 2015 #104

So maybe you and your proofreader... Chalco Jul 2015 #106

LOL JimDandy Jul 2015 #149

Are you suggesting her "slip was showing" ? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #100

ZERO support of republicans liberal N proud Jul 2015 #102

Your post shows your naivete Renew Deal Jul 2015 #103

You can hold on for your dear life aspirant Jul 2015 #142

That includes Bernie Renew Deal Jul 2015 #147

It's the people and the Revolution aspirant Jul 2015 #150

So in other words... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #105

LOL! zappaman Jul 2015 #110

As a Sanders supporter, I find this OP very unhelpful. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #117

Spot on! zappaman Jul 2015 #119

Hold on a sec HassleCat Jul 2015 #124

Do you think Bernie's veto pen aspirant Jul 2015 #146

Of course not HassleCat Jul 2015 #151

Which sore loser Dems? aspirant Jul 2015 #153

With a headline like that.... NCTraveler Jul 2015 #128

Have you read the information republicans have developed on Bernie? I will stick with the scandals Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #130

Bull feces. The next prez will likley get to pick 2-3 SCOTUS judges Persondem Jul 2015 #159

... and Bernie's veto pen aspirant Jul 2015 #163

So the socialist will be bff with the Republicans?? DCBob Jul 2015 #176

I think she'll be effective in the same way that Obama has been FiveGoodMen Jul 2015 #178

Just like the e-mails aspirant Jul 2015 #179

The premis in the OP and the follow up posts is just plain silly. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #180

Okay. I'll alert the media. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2015 #183

Good Gawd I hope Bernie isn't looking to his supporters for sound arguments. great white snark Jul 2015 #188

Or... as the latest lead in the Neoliberal Kabuki Theater, covertly supported by both parties, whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #189

Hillary's a no nonsense leader with a "can do" attitude. oasis Jul 2015 #190

The republicans will act like that no matter what. bravenak Jul 2015 #191

a Black Man energizes Republicans more than Hillary Clinton would JI7 Jul 2015 #195

i wish you would do some more poll analysis , your last ones were very informative JI7 Jul 2015 #197

Maybe we can get Sarah Palin to defect ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #198

Even more ineffective than Gerald Ford? Doubt that. John Poet Jul 2015 #201

Republicans won't give Democrats a goddamned thing. It doesn't matter what democrat it is. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #206

She'll get plenty done for her big money backers with the help of Skwmom Jul 2015 #208