2016 Postmortem

delrem

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101. Do you really think (white) progressives (like me) don't get that black lives are more important

Reply to bravenak (Reply #93)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:38 AM

Jul 2015

than pretty speeches?

Really? Where did that come from?

I don't get the argument, the dirty insinuation, AT ALL.

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White progressives get a taste of anger & frustration as #BlackLivesMatter activists upstage Bernie [View all] DonViejo Jul 2015 OP

Watch the videos. madfloridian Jul 2015 #1

The videos support the account in the OP. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #2

He said if they didn't want him there it was OK. Skwmom Jul 2015 #34

lol Vattel Jul 2015 #46

Here's What Bernie Really Said over the din of the Protesters in Answer! KoKo Jul 2015 #47

Duplicate Post......Delete KoKo Jul 2015 #49

I can remember a few months ago when Sanders supporters were delighted... brooklynite Jul 2015 #3

Uh, the audience liked him just fine. Watch the videos. jeff47 Jul 2015 #11

You can hear them clapping nt artislife Jul 2015 #22

Conspiracy theories for 100, Alex... brooklynite Jul 2015 #28

And there's about 10x more posts saying she benefited without causing it. jeff47 Jul 2015 #35

They Loved Bernie's replies...and they even "paused out" of their chants to listen! KoKo Jul 2015 #58

You missed watching the above Video from the Netroots Conference re: Bernie KoKo Jul 2015 #56

nope, and that's Americans today, including Duers in growing numbers elehhhhna Jul 2015 #78

The Black Lives Matters demonstration should have been given the respect JDPriestly Jul 2015 #112

Clearly you didn't watch the video. He receied numerous applause. arcane1 Jul 2015 #126

actually my complaint was how they treated O'Malley when they wouldn't let him answer their question magical thyme Jul 2015 #141

Bernie has come full circle in a way. Decades ago he'd be the one causing a stir�. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #4

Good for them. mmonk Jul 2015 #5

While we laugh at the Republicans with their "clowns car" question everything Jul 2015 #6

I wish there was video of this part. I've only seen the part with O'Malley. Black lives matter acts freshwest Jul 2015 #7

what we need is dialogue bigtree Jul 2015 #8

Cannot find a video. All I've been able to find is a Bernie supporter channel with an announcement freshwest Jul 2015 #12

Well...you could look in this very forum... jeff47 Jul 2015 #14

So now they blame Bernie who has worked for people his whole career. madfloridian Jul 2015 #25

They made asses of themselves. Protesting the people who are fighting for them. RiverLover Jul 2015 #9

So what was gained? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #10

I would like to applaud the #BlackLivesMatter activists. Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #13

Bursting the bubble of the only two candidates who have actually been talking about their issues. jeff47 Jul 2015 #15

White progressives at the conference were the ones who got their bubbles popped Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #18

So you are saying you're glad "white progressives" got their bubbles popped? madfloridian Jul 2015 #21

That's where the DINOs are at right now Doctor_J Jul 2015 #39

Yes, we can all be equal in abject poverty. jeff47 Jul 2015 #23

What good is being able to buy a hamburger Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #26

You might want to look up who said the quote before claiming they don't get it. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #27

Racial equality has to come first IMO Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #30

No, we need both. jeff47 Jul 2015 #32

No...racial equality has to be prioritized first. Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #36

And without economic equality, racial equality is meaningless. jeff47 Jul 2015 #44

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #51

Yes, I think prioritization means we lose on both. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #54

No Democratic candidate AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #99

Well said jeff47... AOR Jul 2015 #68

Bullshit AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #97

But racial equality can only be legislated to a certain point, then racial JDPriestly Jul 2015 #113

Can't eat a hamburger when you're broke, either Scootaloo Jul 2015 #77

Right so handing the economy over to the oligarchs will AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #100

+1 appalachiablue Jul 2015 #122

Weird AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #96

Will you be clapping romanic Jul 2015 #82

Why would anyone in their right mind heckle someone who agrees with them? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #94

I'm thinking Hillary wouldn't run out on them.. she would definitely stay and listen to their Cha Jul 2015 #95

If Hillary was speaking AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #103

Sanders did not run out on them. TM99 Jul 2015 #118

You didn't watch the video, obviously. Sanders didn't "run out" on anyone. arcane1 Jul 2015 #127

Yep all the "white progressives" needed to be brought down a notch or so. madfloridian Jul 2015 #16

I don't think there are any winners today. nt beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #17

I think Bernie could have responded better. Turin_C3PO Jul 2015 #19

He tried to speak about it over the pushy host and the loud protestors. madfloridian Jul 2015 #20

The whole thing is just regrettable. Turin_C3PO Jul 2015 #24

You missed the VIDEO of Bernie's Answers to the "BLM" HERE: KoKo Jul 2015 #59

When he tried to answer the question they demanded he answer AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #108

I agree with you to an extent. Turin_C3PO Jul 2015 #142

Yeah, 'cause shouting down INVITED speakers Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #29

I support the protests by #BLACKLIVESMATTER activists. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #31

Yes, being oppressed via poverty is so much better. jeff47 Jul 2015 #33

They are being shot down in the streets. Me, Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #38

And if you shoot them because they're in "the poor neighborhood" instead jeff47 Jul 2015 #45

They are being shot because they are black. Black means they have much higher unemployment Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #48

And again, if they are shot because they are poor, are they not as dead? jeff47 Jul 2015 #52

They are not being shot because they are poor. They are shot becasue they are black. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #61

Reading. You really need to try it sometime. jeff47 Jul 2015 #124

We are white Sheepshank Jul 2015 #69

You can't get social justice without it. jeff47 Jul 2015 #125

I am black. ariesgem Jul 2015 #131

Uh, both Sanders and O'Malley have been addressing it. jeff47 Jul 2015 #132

Way more die due to lack of educational and economic opportunity than die from being shot Vattel Jul 2015 #50

The lack of education and economic opportunity are due to racism, because they are black. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #62

I think you are missing something here. Vattel Jul 2015 #63

Economic inequality is not the cause of racism. Their economic inequality is a symptom of racism. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #64

I am not sure we really disagree, but maybe we do. Vattel Jul 2015 #67

I think I agree with most of what you say. Thise are big problems that define us as a nation. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #70

I really don't think we should address one first. We need to fight a multi-front war. Vattel Jul 2015 #73

Right...because the modern slave trade... AOR Jul 2015 #74

Your willingness to make up facts Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #110

The "bankruptcy of facts"... AOR Jul 2015 #128

Your economic argument is bullshit. It is white privaledge that caused these problems. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #134

Your response is completely devoid... AOR Jul 2015 #136

We suffer from institutionalized racism. I stand with #BLACKLIVESMATTER and Civil Righs for all. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #137

Do you think the leftists don't ? AOR Jul 2015 #138

Gladly. I think we have more in common than in conflict. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #139

Cheers... AOR Jul 2015 #140

I agree with you on the importance of Black Lives Matter, but do you think JDPriestly Jul 2015 #115

They should have been given a respected place in the agenda of the meetings, JDPriestly Jul 2015 #114

I watched the live stream of that exchange. Bernie DID respond to the protestors, and as he was napi21 Jul 2015 #37

That IS all they want to do Doctor_J Jul 2015 #41

.... 840high Jul 2015 #60

Strange they would attempt to embarrass one who's been fighting for them for 50 years Doctor_J Jul 2015 #40

Sounds to me like Sen Sanders and to a lesser extent O'Malley, made a tactical error tularetom Jul 2015 #42

The response to this breaks down this way: HRC supporters are gloating. The rest of us are appalled. leveymg Jul 2015 #43

Yeah that about sums it up. MoveIt Jul 2015 #123

Wouldn't Bernie be our second nonwhite President? DemocraticWing Jul 2015 #53

Depends on how you define Jews. jeff47 Jul 2015 #57

When JFK was born the Irish weren't entirely "white" (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #66

I know some Jews who don't like to be called white. DemocraticWing Jul 2015 #72

assinine post. bernie did fine. Vattel Jul 2015 #55

first time I've feared a Republican victory since 04 carolinayellowdog Jul 2015 #65

O'Malley handled it like someone ready for the national stage. Bernie? Not so much. He seems to Metric System Jul 2015 #71

A politically foolish move by BLM. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #75

I thought protesting was what they were supposed to do. bravenak Jul 2015 #76

Do You agree with the bullshit 'Bernie and white progressives are racists' meme delrem Jul 2015 #79

No. But I think white progressives have a big fucking blind spot. bravenak Jul 2015 #81

I'm "white", I consider myself "progressive", delrem Jul 2015 #85

bravenak doesn't even like Hillary , it has nothing to do with hillary JI7 Jul 2015 #86

And that's why Hillary and her supporters, not being anywhere close to "progressive", delrem Jul 2015 #88

there are many posts by bravenak critical of Hillary JI7 Jul 2015 #89

So? delrem Jul 2015 #90

you tried to make this out to be some pro hillary thing when it's not about that JI7 Jul 2015 #92

Don't lie. HRC supporters invented it and are all over it. delrem Jul 2015 #102

bravenak does not support or even like hillary JI7 Jul 2015 #104

I know. delrem Jul 2015 #109

I wasn't talking about you in partucular. bravenak Jul 2015 #87

Just about "white progressives" in general. delrem Jul 2015 #91

The ones who don't get that black lives are more important than pretty speeches. Yeah. Them. bravenak Jul 2015 #93

Do you really think (white) progressives (like me) don't get that black lives are more important delrem Jul 2015 #101

I think they have a blind spot and I already said not you in particular. bravenak Jul 2015 #106

I hadn't seen that thread bravenak. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #98

Thank you. This is stressing me out I think. bravenak Jul 2015 #107

This. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #120

We have discussed this already. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #116

I think they are getting attention to their cause very effectively. bravenak Jul 2015 #117

We have to elect a President who takes these problems seriously for once. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #80

Yeah they sure showed them romanic Jul 2015 #83

I am in Phoenix and I want to share my thoughts on this. TM99 Jul 2015 #84

O'Malley wasn't afforded as much time by the protesters to respond as Sanders was bigtree Jul 2015 #111

I blame the moderator TM99 Jul 2015 #119

Sorry Don Viejo, I think you've got it wrong. What is really happening is the good guys (us) are PatrickforO Jul 2015 #105

If the Sander campaign had paid attention to the movement's tweets.... MohRokTah Jul 2015 #121

"At times he plunged on, talking over the protesters as if they weren�t there." NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #129

I think Bernie is just a victim geography RandySF Jul 2015 #130

"White progressives" as a term really bothers me Prism Jul 2015 #133

Very important that white progressives be made angry and frustrated? madfloridian Jul 2015 #135

upstage? Not even close seveneyes Jul 2015 #143