2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

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24. What is simple is that if they don't do it, they're setting themselves

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:56 AM

Jul 2015

up to lose. They should know that already. If they don't, I question their qualifications for office.

They're politicians. I'm not a big fan of professional politicians, actually. They're usually so insulated from the actual voters that they appear not to even recognize issues that must be addressed. Then, they're surprised when the blocs of voters they are counting on don't show up at the polling place.

Politicians are part of the highly privileged class. They have almost universally lost touch with those who are not. I include all of them in that category. But, they are the people who are running for the Democratic presidential nominatino, so I'm telling them they need to pay attention right now. Close attention. If they don't, they'll certainly lose. That would be a disaster.

They need to think long and hard about their set piece speeches. Right now, they're screwing them up.

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For Democratic Candidates, black voters are often taken for granted. [View all] MineralMan Jul 2015 OP

Of course you're right. Martin O'Malley has apologized. elleng Jul 2015 #1

Apologies are fine, but it is the initial event that remains MineralMan Jul 2015 #2

I think he BEGAN with Black Lives Matter, elleng Jul 2015 #5

People will do as they please. It's up to the candidates MineralMan Jul 2015 #7

No "BUT," AND all lives matter. elleng Jul 2015 #11

Just drop "All lives matter." MineralMan Jul 2015 #19

No. SoapBox Jul 2015 #46

But All Lives aren't being spcifically targeted by police and written off by the justice system Scootaloo Jul 2015 #73

you might like this: Raine1967 Jul 2015 #53

No 'might' about it, Raine. elleng Jul 2015 #64

"All lives matter" was a racist response to #blacklivesmatter MohRokTah Jul 2015 #29

Including when Hillary said it? n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #65

Context is a wonderful thing. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #61

I believe I'll post as I please with regard to that. MineralMan Jul 2015 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #72

This is such a road to loserville; you should know better BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #78

I agree. Letting the right co opt all lives matter is bizarre. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #76

They've pretty much taken the 99% for granted.... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #3

Actually, all three have forgotten that the "99%" is inclusive MineralMan Jul 2015 #6

Ignoring the other candidates for the moment,.... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #18

Has he documented these proposals in his platform? JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #27

Sanders.... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #34

VRA needs to be documented JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #58

Thank you. Good post! bravenak Jul 2015 #4

And thank you! MineralMan Jul 2015 #8

If all lives mattered. no one would need to say black lives matter. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #9

I don't give a damn if candidates are embarrassed. MineralMan Jul 2015 #12

You literally lost me with your first sentence. TM99 Jul 2015 #10

OK. I'm criticizing each and every Democratic candidate. MineralMan Jul 2015 #14

So what has Sanders done that you are criticizing? Vattel Jul 2015 #81

The BLM movement is perfectly prepared to sit out 2016 if their issues are not addressed. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #13

Exactly. Precisely. Absolutely. MineralMan Jul 2015 #15

Are they really? TM99 Jul 2015 #22

Are they really? I'm a Sanders supporter. MineralMan Jul 2015 #33

This wasn't directed at you. TM99 Jul 2015 #35

I'm one of those saying that. MineralMan Jul 2015 #37

Then you are being a hypocrite. TM99 Jul 2015 #38

I'm also one of those saying that I will actively support MineralMan Jul 2015 #39

You accept that even a bad Dem is better than the worst TM99 Jul 2015 #44

Sort of like Ted Cruz threatening filibuster the debt ceiling bill AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #45

I think you underestimate the #blacklivesmatter movement. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #47

It is reasonable to hope and expect that our great democratic candidates will try to do better. Koinos Jul 2015 #16

Yes, it is reasonable. That's why I'm annoyed at all of the MineralMan Jul 2015 #17

I know that O'Malley takes this seriously. Koinos Jul 2015 #30

If so, he needs to rewrite his set pieces for speaking in MineralMan Jul 2015 #41

He made a sincere apology. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #55

I understand completely. mmonk Jul 2015 #20

As will I defend Sanders on issues he has expressed. MineralMan Jul 2015 #40

Questions, about Sanders only, since you are a Sanders supporter.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #77

He, like the other candidates need to be more conscious of how their MineralMan Jul 2015 #79

I disagree it's simple for a pol to say "police are killing black people at an unacceptable rate" KittyWampus Jul 2015 #21

Have you seen Sanders speech from last night? TM99 Jul 2015 #23

Yah, and he also bristled at the protesters. MineralMan Jul 2015 #25

He did not bristle. TM99 Jul 2015 #26

He did bristle. Trying to speak, instead of listening MineralMan Jul 2015 #28

In case you somehow missed this: Bernie before 11,000 in Phoenix 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #57

No, I didn't miss that. I'm talking about the Netroots Nation thing. MineralMan Jul 2015 #68

His Phoenix speech was just a couple of hours after the Netroots Nation event 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #70

Were there BLM protestors at that Phoenix speech? MineralMan Jul 2015 #74

OK nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #75

What is simple is that if they don't do it, they're setting themselves MineralMan Jul 2015 #24

They are diluting the urgency of the systemic problem that Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #31

Apparently they are NOT all smart enough to know that. MineralMan Jul 2015 #32

An honest question. Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #36

You want the candidates to sell something sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #42

It doesn't seem to apply to Hillary AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #43

Of course it applies to her, as well. MineralMan Jul 2015 #48

Because we are not seeing it on DU AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #49

Well, looking at history it seems that they were courted for their votes Skwmom Jul 2015 #50

All lives matter. malthaussen Jul 2015 #51

They take everyone for granted except big money donors. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #52

As I posted elsewhere Gman Jul 2015 #54

It's much, much worse than the OP. Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #59

I hate this kind of talk! ananda Jul 2015 #60

I don't have to think about it. I've never missed an MineralMan Jul 2015 #67

Ermm... ananda Jul 2015 #80

That's funny. According to a significant number of posters on DU yesterday, I got the impression Chakab Jul 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #69

Yes that is true artislife Jul 2015 #71

Will you prove your claim or admit your mistake? Vattel Jul 2015 #82

crickets Vattel Jul 2015 #84

crickets Vattel Jul 2015 #85

It's a good thing Aerows Jul 2015 #83

You still haven't corrected your error. Odd, given that you are a Sanders supporter. See post 82 Vattel Jul 2015 #86