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19. I've seen the claim about NRN organizers being in on the disruption, but haven't seen

Reply to appalachiablue (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:47 PM

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any evidence of it. Interesting story if true.

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Bernie supporters: #blacklivesmatter activists are NOT the enemy. [View all] geek tragedy Jul 2015 OP

Good analogy from another thread: Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #1

One cannot be properly addressed without also addressing the other AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #5

That's the whole point. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #13

Given the enormous numbers of BLM supporters who argue against me on that jeff47 Jul 2015 #31

My guess is they argue against a reasoning that SEEMS Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #113

Nope, they start with that, I point out I said both, and they keep going with one then the other. nt jeff47 Jul 2015 #118

here here! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #53

+1 AOR Jul 2015 #55

Seperating those who genuinely want to discuss issues, like both Bernie and Hillary say, and are, should Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #2

+1,000,000 n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #3

CTFO already about this NRN protest. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #4

Bernie will figure it out, or he won't. A lot of his supporters clearly do not get it. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #7

"I was sympathetic to their movement until..." aaaaand cut Scootaloo Jul 2015 #51

protests are a good thing. brings some pep and fire to otherwise dull events like msongs Jul 2015 #6

if a candidate learns the right lessons such encounters are invaluable. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #8

Towards the end of his program today Thom Hartmann stated that the NRN organizer knew appalachiablue Jul 2015 #16

I've seen the claim about NRN organizers being in on the disruption, but haven't seen geek tragedy Jul 2015 #19

I see how BLM would want to come on and be spontaneous, and letting many others appalachiablue Jul 2015 #38

I'd love to listen to them. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #9

you've been very thoughtful and good on this. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #11

I'm sure i could be better Scootaloo Jul 2015 #22

I know Bernie will get there eventually on the politics of it. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #26

The internet is full of people who can't make arguments Scootaloo Jul 2015 #30

I think the bigger problem is that there are a lot of people who geek tragedy Jul 2015 #33

Well, again, that's a symptom of the medium Scootaloo Jul 2015 #36

Great quote! nt artislife Jul 2015 #87

Great quotes! appalachiablue Jul 2015 #43

I... would avoid going Godwin. Just gonna say, yeah? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #47

I don't know Godwin. If you mean Goebbels, the Nazi progagandist minister may look extreme but appalachiablue Jul 2015 #65

The reference was likely to Godwin's law Gore1FL Jul 2015 #90

Thanks, got it. I know of the Hitler err, but on the topic of LIES it's appropriate w/ Goebbels appalachiablue Jul 2015 #93

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+1 blackspade Jul 2015 #107

Thank you ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #10

I literally can't believe some of the shit I read here. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #12

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #103

Dead on. 100% MuseRider Jul 2015 #14

I Would Like To Do As You Suggest But I Don't Know What BLM Would Like A Candidate To.... global1 Jul 2015 #15

I really can't speak for BLM. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #18

I Assume That The BLM Activists Have Posted Their Points Somewhere.... global1 Jul 2015 #34

Listening requires a clear and coherent message seveneyes Jul 2015 #17

Listening requires a conversation and outreach. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #20

Bernie understands seveneyes Jul 2015 #23

Do Bernie's supporters help him make inroads with minority voters geek tragedy Jul 2015 #28

Not the ones that simply enjoy shouting him down seveneyes Jul 2015 #41

do you think such behavior impresses the 99.9999% of black folks geek tragedy Jul 2015 #45

A logical answer escapes me when an emotional query is the predicate seveneyes Jul 2015 #49

Answer: It offends us bravenak Jul 2015 #114

I don't think some of the most vocal are Sanders supporters are who they claim to be. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #21

it seems more like a fanboy debate on 4chan than a discussion geek tragedy Jul 2015 #24

It's like I've noted... Scootaloo Jul 2015 #25

Bernie Sanders is most definitely not the enemy either n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #27

Of course he isn't. But he is a candidate, which means he has to play by a different geek tragedy Jul 2015 #29

What I want people to remember is what BLM stands for artislife Jul 2015 #32

This is a great post. nt stillwaiting Jul 2015 #67

Listening goes both ways. jeff47 Jul 2015 #35

True, but only one side is running for president and seeking votes. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #37

And the other side is trying to save lives. That's a wee bit more important than POTUS jeff47 Jul 2015 #39

Is it your position that Bernie has done everything he can/should/needs to do in terms of geek tragedy Jul 2015 #42

No, but that is not the threshold BLM supporters are claiming. jeff47 Jul 2015 #52

BLM was/is a much more populist movement than OWS was. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #54

Except that doesn't address the routine racism in media coverage. jeff47 Jul 2015 #56

because BLM is about human beings, not concepts. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #59

Uh, so were the "riots". jeff47 Jul 2015 #71

so now you're asking why riots got less favorable coverage geek tragedy Jul 2015 #73

They get less favorable coverage than riots by white people. jeff47 Jul 2015 #75

Oh, gotcha. The white people riots getting treated differently is straight up racism. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #77

And that racism disappeared here because..........? jeff47 Jul 2015 #78

it didn't disappear. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #79

So because......reasons. jeff47 Jul 2015 #81

I've lost interest in this argument, as I can't tell geek tragedy Jul 2015 #82

This is a turn off to black folks. It is more how his supporters talk about and to us, then him. bravenak Jul 2015 #115

Absolutely! hedda_foil Jul 2015 #40

Bernie knows this ibegurpard Jul 2015 #44

I can protect myself against my enemies, but God save me from my friends nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #46

That's well worded; it's a difficult, but necessary step. nt el_bryanto Jul 2015 #48

Suddenly you are okay with making powerful people feel uncomfortable? Vattel Jul 2015 #50

one person in the country illegally who tried to shout down the president geek tragedy Jul 2015 #58

I see, one person protesting an injustice should be booted out. Vattel Jul 2015 #60

you understand the difference between a political conference geek tragedy Jul 2015 #62

lol, now it is not okay to make powerful people uncomfortable Vattel Jul 2015 #66

the white house is different than an activist conference. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #72

so stfu if you are in the Whitehouse. Got it. Vattel Jul 2015 #80

if you are the guest of someone hosting an event at their residence, you're going geek tragedy Jul 2015 #84

C'mon, that post was ages ago Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #70

You're right; they're not the enemy. LWolf Jul 2015 #57

And vice versa. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #61

candidates and activists have differen roles to play. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #63

Wrong Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #69

Wrong. The OP said BLM is not Bernie's enemy. And Bernie is not BLM's enemy. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #76

You forget than most black people support BLM. They are fighting for OUR lives. bravenak Jul 2015 #116

I presume that BLM can defend itself on its own MisterP Jul 2015 #64

When will they listen? SoapBox Jul 2015 #68

Bernie Sanders is not the problem either highprincipleswork Jul 2015 #74

a lot in the last heaven05 Jul 2015 #83

thank you. I will never understand what you have gone through. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #85

Well said... Spazito Jul 2015 #86

These black lives matter activists penndragon69 Jul 2015 #88

Hillary thanks you for your comment. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #89

Wow. Just. Wow. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #97

Hell they are barely a member of DU, don't sweat it. Agschmid Jul 2015 #105

I 've been listening, & engaging with BLM folk on twitter. They are responding positively to me peacebird Jul 2015 #91

Well said, g_ t. blm Jul 2015 #92

They are most defiinitely not the enemy. blackspade Jul 2015 #94

I took them seriously until they decided it was a quality strategy to shout down winter is coming Jul 2015 #95

To whom did they "damage their credibility"? White people? scarletwoman Jul 2015 #98

You do understand that "taking someone seriously" and "forgiving someone" are two different things? winter is coming Jul 2015 #100

"Damaged their credibility" with whom? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #101

With me. I wasn't presuming to speak for anyone other than myself. winter is coming Jul 2015 #104

Nobody that has compassion for #BlackLivesMatter.. Netroots Nation Stands with the Protesters.. Cha Jul 2015 #109

Mahalo geek tragedy Jul 2015 #110

Meanwhile, we wait for the miracle to come seveneyes Jul 2015 #96

Very good post, thank you. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #99

Neither are we...I don't like bullies. That's all I have to say. nt haikugal Jul 2015 #102

Bernie Supporter who agrees with this. TDale313 Jul 2015 #106

I'm a Bernie supporter, and I agree vive la commune Jul 2015 #108

Kick & Rec! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #111

I don't know what's worse. The fact that people who want their candidate to win the DEMOCRATIC Number23 Jul 2015 #112

Thanks for your excellent post geek tragedy. lovemydog Jul 2015 #117

The first job of supporters is to make undecided voters feel welcome in joining geek tragedy Jul 2015 #119