2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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60. He's also following through on housing and demilitarizing police depts...

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 06:31 PM

Jul 2015

Did some people here only notice BLM's protests since they are now going after all the Dem candidates? Shame they missed other protests but awesome that they are getting wider notice.

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What Sanders COULD have said: [View all] OilemFirchen Jul 2015 OP

Why can't Clinton, or for that matter, Obama? whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #1

Because neither Clinton nor Obama are "transcendent" figures. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #6

So, just to understand whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #8

Yes I do. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #10

Then the money should come from the federal government, not the states. PotatoChip Jul 2015 #35

3) I'll resuscitate, tweak, and aggressively fund Enterprise Zones. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #2

"All our candidates need to be addressing these issues. " Scootaloo Jul 2015 #15

Funny how that works, isn't it? arcane1 Jul 2015 #17

Same coincidence that economic justice only became code for racism on DU, when Sanders declared Scootaloo Jul 2015 #18

Indeed. arcane1 Jul 2015 #22

Y'know, it's possible to make an argument without "Appeal to King" Scootaloo Jul 2015 #39

Agreed! arcane1 Jul 2015 #40

When will Clinton be held to this standard that only Bernie is held to? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #3

Well, that would require holding Clinton to a standard, wouldn't it? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #5

Why are you asking me? (n/t) OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #11

That's one of the standard methods of dismissing BLMs concerns. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #33

Your response is one of the standard methods Aerows Jul 2015 #43

There is no question to answer. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #44

If you can't answer the obvious question Aerows Jul 2015 #47

What question. Why couldnt you do your own research? She responded to this just today. stevenleser Jul 2015 #49

She never said "White Lives matter." Aerows Jul 2015 #51

Now you are flailing. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #53

By pointing out Aerows Jul 2015 #54

Perhaps if he had had two days to stew for answers as you have? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #4

Dude, I've had these answers for decades. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #9

Do you often confront screaming crowds who vow to not let you speak? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #13

Only at Thanksgiving. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #16

It's not victimhood, oilem. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #21

I watched. He spoke. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #23

"Absolutely, black lives matter" is an unacceptable statement for Black Lives Matter? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #24

It's a bromide. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #25

Do you have a video with good sound quality? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #26

You betcha. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #55

Oh, please. Coddlers for Bernie! He's been in politics for 40 years. R B Garr Jul 2015 #28

Where did i call him a victim? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author R B Garr Jul 2015 #32

Well then know that it is not anything I had intent to imply. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author R B Garr Jul 2015 #41

You have to keep rephrasing stuff I didn't say Scootaloo Jul 2015 #42

lol, you keep shifting. I should have known being polite was a waste of time, R B Garr Jul 2015 #72

You finished yet? Need a little more lotion, maybe? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #73

Bernie wasn't a victim of circumstances. He's a grown ass man and R B Garr Jul 2015 #75

Keep going, man. Get it all out. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #77

Aww, you're the one pushing for some Bernie coddling. R B Garr Jul 2015 #79

Except that they didn't "shut him up". OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #56

Exactly, he was an arrogant jerk, basically. R B Garr Jul 2015 #74

Ya think so? In addition, the forum didn't present an opportunity for him or the others there still_one Jul 2015 #76

I suggest you do some real research not DU research before you criticize someone. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #7

What are you implying, exactly? (n/t) OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #12

I grabb this quickly off the interweb just to point out Snotcicles Jul 2015 #14

Fine. I know the man's history. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #19

He has. Maybe he should repeat them. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #27

Yes, he needs specific plans to deal with this issue. DCBob Jul 2015 #20

Yes, I still can't wrap my head around how badly he flubbed what was an opportunity handed to him stevenleser Jul 2015 #29

Yes, he flubbed the ambush whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #36

+A million. And this is why the conspiracy theories about Hillary R B Garr Jul 2015 #37

Why isn't Obama being asked to do that today, right now. Not in two years? onecaliberal Jul 2015 #30

Is any of that an excuse to why Bernie couldn't respond then and there to their concerns? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #34

Is any of that an excuse to not answer the question? Aerows Jul 2015 #46

Several people have answered. Obama was protested by BLM and he responded. Months ago. stevenleser Jul 2015 #48

Actions. Aerows Jul 2015 #50

Now you are moving the goalposts. But fine. How about appointing African Americans to head DOJ AND stevenleser Jul 2015 #52

I'll defer to African Americans Aerows Jul 2015 #61

He's also following through on housing and demilitarizing police depts... bettyellen Jul 2015 #60

I just brought up the criminal justice department. Aerows Jul 2015 #62

Sending in the DOJ to investigate the entire department- leading to restructuring shows no bettyellen Jul 2015 #64

I believe Aerows Jul 2015 #65

I'm not sure what you think should have happened first? bettyellen Jul 2015 #67

Here we are again. Aerows Jul 2015 #69

He can't do everything- change is incremental and fixing something mid-prosecution is off the table bettyellen Jul 2015 #89

"Dismissing Obama and making "excuses" for Sanders" Aerows Jul 2015 #90

I'm unclear as to what more the DOJ can do in most cases- bettyellen Jul 2015 #91

He doesn't say those things LWolf Jul 2015 #45

Not very revolutionary, huh? OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #57

He knows how to get things done. LWolf Jul 2015 #92

If he said those things, he would be lying. Presidents don't have that much power. Vattel Jul 2015 #58

They don't have the power to offer free state college tuition either. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #59

Yes, it has stopped him from promising to do that. Vattel Jul 2015 #66

Since when? OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #80

He has prioritized other things he cannot accomplish - but you'd never call that lying would you? bettyellen Jul 2015 #63

He says that it is going to takea political revolution to wrest the country from the 1%. Vattel Jul 2015 #81

So, that's it? It's a narrowly focused campaign alright. bettyellen Jul 2015 #87

I guess I am not following you. Vattel Jul 2015 #88

Look, a lot of what you think Sanders should embrace here I agree with. Vattel Jul 2015 #68

It is my belief that Sanders PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #70

LOL Even the stuff ABOUT Sanders becomes an immediate pivot to somehow being about Clinton Number23 Jul 2015 #71

Aw, shucks. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #83

It's not a man, it's a famous French portrait of a black woman Number23 Jul 2015 #84

D'oh! OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #86

I'd like to thank you for this thread Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #78

I always go the extra mile. OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #85

Give us back our future seveneyes Jul 2015 #82