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monmouth

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1. It all boils down to you gotta do what ya gotta do. n/t

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You know I hated it when Bush bypassed Congress [View all] SoutherDem Jun 2012 OP

It all boils down to you gotta do what ya gotta do. n/t monmouth Jun 2012 #1

I think that is what Obama concluded siligut Jun 2012 #3

There is a document that forbids him from doing that. We don't elect kings in the United States. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #5

Obama taught Constitutional law siligut Jun 2012 #6

The President had two years with both houses of Congress to do this. Why didn't he? SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #7

Who do you think you are talking to? siligut Jun 2012 #9

Answer my question and I'll answer yours. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #13

He did not have a majority for two years siligut Jun 2012 #18

Why did it take a back seat? I was in favor of the legislation, as were a majority of Democrats in SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #20

I answered your question. nt siligut Jun 2012 #21

And I answered yours. It wasn't politically favorable to do so at the time. Now the President SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #24

He has/had the Hispanic vote siligut Jun 2012 #26

What does the Catholic/Mormon comment have to do with what we're discussing? President Obama SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #28

Latinos tend to be Catholic siligut Jun 2012 #29

Obama believes in the law/Constitution siligut Jun 2012 #25

Thank you for putting that silly lie to rest. I hear it all the time on talk radio, and usually.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #31

We need to change the constitution to allow four terms BamaFanLee Jun 2012 #27

"We don't elect kings" GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #11

Bush Jr tried to do immigration reform and he was stopped in the same manner. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #14

Yes, I think Congress should work "as designed". GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #15

The majority has the option of changing the rules at the beginning of each session. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #16

Yes, I know that. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #19

Absolutely. The Founding Fathers never envisioned the use of a filibuster at all, let alone a 60 SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #22

Lincoln is revered for doing so. GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #12

When Lincoln used the executive pen to suspend Habeus Corpus, he was reviled for it. Historians to SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #23

I care more about kids than I care about the abstract concept of law. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #17

"Forbids"? Obviously, you're completely wrong, as he did it. And it's been done before. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #30

I believe that's what they're going to do if the reports are correct. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #32

That's fine. Let's have this debate, but you used the word "forbid", and that's simply not true. nt Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #33

The US Constitution *does* forbid the President from using executive orders to skirt Congress. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #35

Where in the Constitution is that forbidden? morningfog Jun 2012 #36

When the President writes an executive order that directs a department to *not* enforce a law, then SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #39

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #43

You and I cannot/will not settle this. There's a thread in this very forum where an atty general... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #42

I keep thinking SoFlaJet Jun 2012 #2

Congress doesn't want to do anything high density Jun 2012 #4

But, it's not quite the same in this case. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #8

+1 DCBob Jun 2012 #10

Totally true. joshcryer Jun 2012 #34

Filibuster had nothing to do with it... rayofreason Jun 2012 #37

I am sure no one here will complain... rayofreason Jun 2012 #38

They made the rules GarroHorus Jun 2012 #40

Congress gave Obama the authority under 8 U.S.C. � 1227 aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #41

So after these "temporary stays," they will be rounded up and sent back to their countries? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #44

It happens all the time aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #45

No. This is the first time that a president has issued an executive order to prohibit enforcing AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #46