2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Kos: A Black Man's take on NN/BLM dustup: "Black Folks No on Bernie? Really?" [View all]Rilgin
(787 posts)Sometimes your views have made me think. Sometimes I have agreed with your positions. Once a while ago I engaged in a disagreement before I realized that there would be no possibility of you meeting a fellow human on mutual grounds. To you all that people are are white or black and you do not think that white people are people who can have wisdom that you do not have.
In most ways you are invested in thinking that white people do not understand what it is to be human... meaning facing problems in life and coming away with wisdom or with no wisdom and you do not look at yourself in that vein as well.
More importantly you are invested in the belief that the problems that black people face with racism is so incredibly different than any other race has faced in the history of the world so that no one else has any comparable issues or will even understand. If i had to place an order of being screwed with by the world, I might pick some of the people in Southeast Asia (the Hmong). In the 20th century, there have been a number of genocides. Do you really think black people are the only people who understand what it is like for society to go after them based on circumstances beyond their control. Do you think that other families do not understand worry for their children on a variety of factors even if they are not being black and running into a racist policeman. I had a policeman handcuff me and hold a gun to my head and I am white. Has that happened to you. If not, do you think I can relate more to the possibility of police violence or you. I was scared shitless and I realized how close a line I had come.
So I have avoided answering your posts. Sometimes I find you absurd and sometimes I learn something. I would never discount your feelings. However, whether your feelings are reality is where we all have the right to disagree.
However, then I read your posts in this thread and had to laugh. I find it absolutely incredible that you are both considering buying a new Range Rover discuss driving your benz and bmw and spend your time asserting that other people are privileged. You really should look inward before throwing that word around. The most important privilege is security for you and your children. I suspect that you have that security in abundance from this thread.
I can and most liberals can believe that rich black people get stopped more than others and that they can run into both institutional and direct individual racism. It is crystal clear that there are significant issues in the justice system and in the interaction between police and young black men. However, rich black people are more similar to rich white people and rich people of every race creed color and religion and their problems or lack of problems are mostly in that class. The problems with shootings by police are mostly in poor black men, not in rich older black men notwithstanding that fact that rich black men might get stopped.