2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

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5. Perhaps, and perhaps not.

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:16 PM

Jul 2015

He's well-known in progressive circles, certainly. Expanding that name recognition, however, in enough states to get him the nomination will be a very difficult job. Looked at realistically, unless he increases his polling numbers nationally in a significant way, he's not going to get the media coverage required to build enough name recognition to win many primary elections.

Most people don't follow election coverage and candidates all that much, especially in the lead-up to the primaries. If they do, they are seeing modest news coverage of primary issues. They're not on sites like DU in enough numbers to make much of a difference. Recent numbers show that over 70% of Americans get most of their news from local and national news coverage on the three major network channels, CBS, NBC and ABC. Viewership of any one of those news outlets overwhelms the numbers of viewers of all cable news channels combined. Those are the facts.

Name recognition is huge in elections. It affects an amazingly large percentage of voters. That may be disappointing, but it's true.

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Not everyone thinks that Bernie Sanders is the best choice [View all] MineralMan Jul 2015 OP

Isn't that kid of obvious? That's why we have primaries. djean111 Jul 2015 #1

Name Recognition? "Feel the Bern!" will become a household phrase (imho). nt jonno99 Jul 2015 #2

Perhaps, and perhaps not. MineralMan Jul 2015 #5

Poll #'s are not facts, they're estimates, guesses at best, aspirant Jul 2015 #32

Thanks for recommending that I educate myself. MineralMan Jul 2015 #34

50 years and you still think unverifiable polls are facts? aspirant Jul 2015 #45

Polls are very useful in predicting outcomes. MineralMan Jul 2015 #54

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #61

I see you have found my real life first name. MineralMan Jul 2015 #62

"easy to do? aspirant Jul 2015 #66

I do not provide my name in my signature line. MineralMan Jul 2015 #67

Jury results JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #75

Thanks for the heads-up. MineralMan Jul 2015 #79

FFS. Agschmid Jul 2015 #96

You get the award for creepiest post of the day. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #64

That's pretty funny....creepy was a term previously used Sheepshank Jul 2015 #65

Damn, that was creepy. Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #72

what the fuck was that ? JI7 Jul 2015 #94

He doesn't have to be anyone's best choice. Autumn Jul 2015 #3

Yes. So will I in my state's caucuses. MineralMan Jul 2015 #7

That's why we support Martin O'Malley. elleng Jul 2015 #4

I would like to get back to stances on issues being at least "A" factor in who's the "best choice".. cascadiance Jul 2015 #6

It's not missing. I mentioned that many times in my OP. MineralMan Jul 2015 #10

I think that in today's corrupt system, you are right that they haven't been the primary thing... cascadiance Jul 2015 #12

I think they matter very much. However, I also think MineralMan Jul 2015 #18

Not overrated, but the system intentionally "devalues" them when they want money to determine... cascadiance Jul 2015 #20

I think that policies play a role, but on a very broad level... brooklynite Jul 2015 #99

Policy Eatacig Jul 2015 #8

And that's fine whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #9

Not everyone likes to stand up. zappaman Jul 2015 #74

Haha yep n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #76

We have lots of experience with unhappy people who vote against their own interests, Zorra Jul 2015 #11

Yes. One of the most difficult realities of living in a MineralMan Jul 2015 #15

Hillary is in the interest for progressives not Bernie: GO Hillary lewebley3 Jul 2015 #28

"Electability" is dependent on people voting for that option Scootaloo Jul 2015 #13

Actually, electability is a useful measure, I think. MineralMan Jul 2015 #17

It's not. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #22

The best way to measure general election electability.... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #63

Remember how electable John Kerry was touted to be? frylock Jul 2015 #97

Maybe you need to rethink "Electability", latest quinnipiac poll has Bernie up & Hillary down peacebird Jul 2015 #14

I look at a very wide range of poll results. MineralMan Jul 2015 #16

The ability to adequatedly fund a campaign is very important to many of us Gothmog Jul 2015 #19

Yes. I deliberately left that one out, because it is such a hot-button issue. MineralMan Jul 2015 #23

To me, fundraising is related to electablity Gothmog Jul 2015 #25

I have no idea what Senator Sanders is thinking, MineralMan Jul 2015 #30

Texas is also on Super Tuesday Gothmog Jul 2015 #59

I've never been tempted to vote in a GOP primary. MineralMan Jul 2015 #60

D'oh! Some may not be happy with any of the 3 TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #21

One of the things I didn't include is "Coattails." MineralMan Jul 2015 #24

Hillary is the best choice for progessives, She has everything it takes lewebley3 Jul 2015 #26

How many times do we need to see the same thing posted day after day? tymorial Jul 2015 #27

Well, I don't know. I don't know of an identical post to mine, though. MineralMan Jul 2015 #31

Variations on a theme tymorial Jul 2015 #36

Perhaps, and it's the same with posts like yours, MineralMan Jul 2015 #37

Attempts at one-upmanship is not discussion. Its antagonistic. tymorial Jul 2015 #98

The beatings will continue until we follow our orders. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #52

I'm not sure he's ready for the big stage Renew Deal Jul 2015 #29

I can't speak to that, really. MineralMan Jul 2015 #33

Mineral Man. 99Forever Jul 2015 #35

My invitation for DUers to attend the precinct caucus for MineralMan Jul 2015 #39

You're last thread, Bernie screwed up aspirant Jul 2015 #38

When she screws up, I'll post something about it, I'm sure. MineralMan Jul 2015 #40

So she's been perfect her whole political existence? aspirant Jul 2015 #49

Nobody's perfect, Grasshopper. MineralMan Jul 2015 #58

You forgot #7. Issues FSogol Jul 2015 #41

Issues are pervasive throughout the primaries. MineralMan Jul 2015 #47

I'm glad my state (VA) switched from Caucuses to primary elections. FSogol Jul 2015 #51

Yeah, maybe. However, the truly tiny turnout for most caucuses MineralMan Jul 2015 #56

That's what I thought when I caucused for Gary Hart. FSogol Jul 2015 #57

Elections can be heart breakers, for sure. MineralMan Jul 2015 #69

"Not everyone thinks that Bernie Sanders is the best choice" NCTraveler Jul 2015 #42

He'll still get all six of my votes in the primary. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #43

LOL! MineralMan Jul 2015 #44

Ever heard about the difference between a chicken and a pig in the context of breakfast? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #46

Yup! MineralMan Jul 2015 #48

All six factors are variations of electability. So this could be stated much more concisely. Vattel Jul 2015 #50

Yeah, I have noticed that, too. It is, actually, getting amusing. And kinda obvious. djean111 Jul 2015 #53

On point #6. How do you think a Clinton v. Bush match would fare? LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #55

That's a good question. At this point, I can't say, really. MineralMan Jul 2015 #68

Interesting that our opinions are so diverse on this. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #70

It's all very interesting. As you say, we'll see what happens. MineralMan Jul 2015 #71

Candidates are like pizza. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #73

Seriously? Who doesn't like pizza? MoonRiver Jul 2015 #77

I know right. But they are out there. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #82

The pizza haters! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #90

A rare phenomenon. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #92

Well, duh matt819 Jul 2015 #78

+1,000,000,000. djean111 Jul 2015 #80

And his supporters follow me around and alert nd alert and alert and alert!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #81

....... steve2470 Jul 2015 #83

Thank you. bravenak Jul 2015 #84

If that's true, it's really sad to hear. MineralMan Jul 2015 #85

I'm sorry too. It hurt to know that people I like turn on me like I'm a bad dog. bravenak Jul 2015 #86

There are some serious underlying issues that MineralMan Jul 2015 #87

Thank you. bravenak Jul 2015 #89

it's too bad because Sanders himself is nothing like that JI7 Jul 2015 #95

my bottom line is, who is going to keep the Republican from sitting in the White House ? steve2470 Jul 2015 #88

A lot of people are worried about that, for sure. MineralMan Jul 2015 #91

Of course people have different opinions. What fools thinks otherwise? n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #93