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2016 Postmortem

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passiveporcupine

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71. I am sure there are some people who don't get it
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:07 AM
Jul 2015

even here on DU. But I think most people here do. I think there is a problem in communications here and it's causing both sides to feel "attacked" and not understood.

I just finished reading another post where a link was posted to a black woman at the NN meeting who said she felt threatened by a Sanders supporter because he kept insisting Bernie gets it because of his history of civic support.

Now I was not there and we can only go by her words, but she probably really felt that way, and I understand that and wish it hadn't happened. But what I'm feeling here from the AA community is that they think all of Bernie supporters think that only fixing the economic issues in this country will fix this racial problem that is killing blacks. No...it won't, and they have a right to scream and they have a right to disrupt meetings and debates with their concerns until they hear a message that reaches them.

I get that. I am not upset with what happened at NN. I am upset that so many people here keep insisting that Sanders supporters "don't" get it and are racist. I don't believe that either. I think part of the communication problem is that Sander's supporters know that Bernie is the kind of guy who will fight for everyone, for every wrong, including changing this damn racist system of policing and jailing and targeting and killing blacks. I understand that he hasn't been addressing this enough in his speeches, but that's only because he hasn't been talking to enough POC audiences, so he's focused mainly on the issue of economic inequality (which really will help everyone, even if it doesn't fix the race problem). See, we see the side of Bernie that has a huge heart and care about everyone. I think he might have addressed the race issue in his speech at NN if he had been allowed to talk. He wasn't allowed. You don't know what he would have said, had he had time to finish his speech.

I personally believe Sanders cares about POC a lot more than Clinton does. And because of that, and because I also care very much about POC and I strongly believe that Black Lives Matter and it needs to be shouted from the rooftops until things are changed...but I believe that people who say Sanders doesn't get it and so they will vote for Hillary, are voting against their own best interest...because he is the one that will in fact, address this issue of racial profiling and using low income black communities to fill our for profit prison system.

That's why we want to defend him so much. Because we believe the voting for him is in your best interest (not because of his stance on economic inequality or education) but because he really does damned care. And I don't want you voting for him because he will help me. He won't. I'm already on SS, so raising the min wage will not help me. Offering free college will not help me. It's all of you I want to see those things for. I don't want you to vote for him because I want him to win...I want you to vote for him because he will help you...all POC more than any other candidate we have running.

I wish you guys could understand this. I really really care about you and want to see things fixed. For everyone!

And getting money out of politics is also a huge issue that he knows needs to be dealt with right away, because until you do that, you won't see the changes that we need to see to fix all these social problems. Because right now the man owns the system and he wants a lot of poor people and scapegoats to misdirect the anger of other low or middle class people.

We need someone in the white house who sees and understands ALL of this.

This is not a rant. This is a plea to please try to understand that we Sanders supporters are on your side and only frustrated because we don't see Hillary as a solution to any of the major problems facing this country right now...not economically, not socially...except maybe on women's issues. But Bernie supports all progressive women's issues too.

Bernie is asking the POC to talk to him to help him understand what he can do to start to help them. Please don't just shut him out. Talk to him. Give him a chance.


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Right-wing memes [View all] BainsBane Jul 2015 OP
k&r ibegurpard Jul 2015 #1
K&R. n/t FSogol Jul 2015 #2
... Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #3
Some people just don't get it BainsBane or they do get it and just don't give a flying fuck. William769 Jul 2015 #4
I'd really like to see any threads or posts here passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #25
Only people with a guilty conscious will take offense at my post. William769 Jul 2015 #30
You are pretty good at generalization that has strong implications passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #31
If you weren't offended by my post, you sure have a funny way of saying it. William769 Jul 2015 #34
As usual passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #35
The one this OP is responding to BainsBane Jul 2015 #33
I'm not seeing a reference to a DU thread in the OP passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #37
No, it would be locked as meta BainsBane Jul 2015 #52
Holy cow. murielm99 Jul 2015 #40
I don't believe in coincidence passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #43
You have gone off the deep end with murielm99 Jul 2015 #46
My responses had nothing to do with the OP passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #47
The crap is flying from people calling Black Lives Matters a right-wing meme BainsBane Jul 2015 #55
No, you "don't all get it." All you have to do is read around here to see that.. thankfully some Cha Jul 2015 #57
Because they support Sanders? BainsBane Jul 2015 #63
Every OP that argues that this is about Bernie ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #64
Exactly nt BainsBane Jul 2015 #69
This Sanders supporter awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #70
I am sure there are some people who don't get it passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #71
You're referring to Republicans/Rightwingers, correct? Martin Eden Jul 2015 #67
Electing Bernie is the only way, only serious chance we have, of stopping these horrors. Zorra Jul 2015 #5
Noooo. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #8
Here is the origin of the meme. Zorra Jul 2015 #10
There are plenty of meme's out there, sheshe2 Jul 2015 #12
Fine. Let's stop the brutality and horror by electing people Zorra Jul 2015 #16
I plan to. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #19
So do I, she. Cha Jul 2015 #24
I am tired on the East Coast. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #41
I just saw it last night, she..and took notes.. I know I should have Cha Jul 2015 #44
love you..gotta sleep as well. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #48
Just something to take with you.. lol Cha Jul 2015 #50
Dayum. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #51
PS sheshe2 Jul 2015 #13
That other poster said as much BainsBane Jul 2015 #28
And, wow.. brave was a Bernie supporter until Sat when Cha Jul 2015 #49
It's is incredible that you actually believe that BainsBane Jul 2015 #27
I think some of his supporters have pretty much determined BainsBane Jul 2015 #20
Well, then, unfortunately, the African American community will have to wait another Zorra Jul 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author CANDO Jul 2015 #39
Too many. George II Jul 2015 #6
Tears Baines. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #7
Thank you, Black Lives Do Matter Iliyah Jul 2015 #9
OK. I'll call it sarge43 Jul 2015 #11
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2015 #14
Beautiful and tragic photo essay, BainsBane. calimary Jul 2015 #15
And it has been gong on for so, annabanana Jul 2015 #17
K&R mcar Jul 2015 #18
It makes my stomach turn. blackspade Jul 2015 #21
Thank you so much for shining a Light on these Black Lives, who were taken from us because they Cha Jul 2015 #23
... historylovr Jul 2015 #26
So poignant ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #29
These are not right wing memes. These are victims of cop murder. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #32
Incredibly powerful photo essay, my friend ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #36
Big ole' kick. Agschmid Jul 2015 #38
k&r Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #42
We need a top to bottom review of the entire system.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #45
There is also local jurisdiction BainsBane Jul 2015 #53
They made that argument during the Civil Rights Era.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #54
For God's sake BainsBane Jul 2015 #56
The ENTIRE government must abide by the Law of the Land.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #59
Yes, but not all laws are federal BainsBane Jul 2015 #60
They have to abide by the chain of command.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #61
... okasha Jul 2015 #58
Kickety kick kick. Scuba Jul 2015 #62
and if people don't see why black folks are sick and tired of this shit Quayblue Jul 2015 #65
Sadly, that's only a few. progressoid Jul 2015 #66
Yes, and the site this info came from is only for 2014 BainsBane Jul 2015 #68
Kick BainsBane Jul 2015 #72
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