2016 Postmortem

delrem

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82. Did you notice that the Supreme Court Marriage Equality Decision

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:36 PM

Jul 2015

was written by Anthony Kennedy, who was appointed by Ronald Reagan?

That surprised me.
Given who appointed the man Supreme Court Justice, his ruling on Citizens United v. FEC was more his style. I reconcile the opposites by judging that Anthony Kennedy "evolved" on the marriage equality issue, because he "evolved" in his understanding of sexual identity, by which I mean that he gained greater depth of understanding of what sexual identity *is*, then applied that greater understanding to the laws that he was ruling on. Whatever else I might think about the man Anthony Kennedy, I applaud that kind of evolution in thought and signals a global change in way of thinking of and perceiving other people, and I don't think it ever should be disparaged. Because it's real.

Anyhoo... my point is that Kennedy's "evolution" was slow, very slow, and it was accomplished by an unity of purpose or solidarity of purpose among a whole range of people with diverse political views -- it wasn't achieved by everyone pissing all over everyone else in a purity contest (or primary contest), it was achieved by changing the majority view of the US citizenry, by taking control of the language of debate.

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Poll: Bernie vs. Hillary on Social Justice [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 OP

Not even close. 99Forever Jul 2015 #1

Dedicating her life to fighting AIDS in Africa. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #5

DOMA beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #6

What year was that? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #7

Oh, my bad. I thought you were talking about her entire life. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #8

You're the one who brought it up. I was just.... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #10

You brought up her life's accomplishments, I was just helping you out. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #11

I wouldn't consider that an "accomplishment"... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #13

Bingo. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #14

Weird that you thought it was though. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16

It was quite an accomplishment for someone opposed to same sex marriage. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #18

It was in the etc's. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #21

But you just said it wasn't listed. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #22

Yeah because something she never even cast a vote for... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #27

She ran for president while opposing equal rights for lgbt people. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #30

Just make sure you vote for the 2016 Dem nominee. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #32

She said as she took her ball and went home... beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #37

Here the thing: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #42

Damn good thing too, because you're failing miserably. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #45

Stay positive. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #48

If you're not pissed off you're not paying attention. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #50

Leave Hillary alone! Fuddnik Jul 2015 #54

LOL! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #56

^^Thread winner!^^ mr blur Jul 2015 #68

Yes, you make sure to vote for the 2016 Dem nominee too. Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #72

2008, perhaps later MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #9

White strategy in 2008, Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #60

And then there's that. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #62

But they are hard working white people......nt artislife Jul 2015 #84

Was Hillary Clinton President when DOMA was passed? brooklynite Jul 2015 #77

She opposed same sex marriage throughout her career including when she ran beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #78

I don't think you're using the phrase "dedicating her life to..." properly there Scootaloo Jul 2015 #12

Don't her speeches benefit Clinton Global Initiative? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #15

Usually when someone says a person has dedicated their life" to something... Scootaloo Jul 2015 #23

OT bvf Jul 2015 #29

OMG. Really? Phlem Jul 2015 #58

This isn't a cafeteria. 99Forever Jul 2015 #17

If its on the internet it must be true. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #19

What "actual poll results" are you referring to? bvf Jul 2015 #51

It's on the internet. It must not be true. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #57

On a bernie board, sure. George II Jul 2015 #25

"On a bernie board" ...? I think you missed the forum tag Bubzer Jul 2015 #52

Done in one: Welfare reform. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #20

She did not cast any vote for it. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #35

She heartily endorsed it MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #41

And the NRA heartily endorsed Bernie. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #43

By giving him an F rating. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #46

Oh goodness LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #74

She's dedicated her life to fighting AIDS? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #59

I'm sure the women of Iraq and Libya appreciate that work n/t eridani Jul 2015 #67

Disclaimer: This is an internet poll. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #2

Yes, everybody knows that. bvf Jul 2015 #3

Are you certain? Where am I? Who took my scotch? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #34

All polls have disclaimers. Bubzer Jul 2015 #53

translation: your horse is running last. By 140 lengths. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #65

If I may paraphrase Jester Messiah : Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #4

50 years, with a huge 20+ year gap in the middle, thank you. George II Jul 2015 #26

You're welcome. Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #36

Another Black Blogger's perspective... kenn3d Jul 2015 #73

Thank you for the link Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #81

What twenty plus years? Specifically? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #63

This is HUGH! There is a 20 year gap! Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #69

I'd say they're about the same ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #24

Perhaps you can help to enlighten the 100 or so voters MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #31

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #61

Well, I don't see the world through the lense of Bernie ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #66

Did you notice that the Supreme Court Marriage Equality Decision delrem Jul 2015 #82

yup JI7 Jul 2015 #39

Nice Poll Manny Hydra Jul 2015 #28

Odd, it's almost as if most of one side is boycotting the poll. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #33

Ya, missing some names here Hydra Jul 2015 #38

Well that settles it. Bernie is the new president of DU. DanTex Jul 2015 #40

Finally. TM99 Jul 2015 #44

as kucinich sets to end his JI7 Jul 2015 #47

You do know that internet polls are useless don't you? Buzz cook Jul 2015 #49

While I believe it IS true Bernie has the best record hands down, we must remember PatrickforO Jul 2015 #55

While it is true that Bernie has a much longer BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #71

Hillary has certainly accomplished more Onlooker Jul 2015 #75

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #76

Is that even a question once you check out their records, and after seeing how sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #79

^ Zorra Jul 2015 #80

I voted for Bernie because track record Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #83