2016 Postmortem

carolinayellowdog

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8. bitter hatred and stalking between two factions that predate the Sanders/Clinton divide

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 11:03 AM

Jul 2015

The people now attacking "Sanders supporters" were attacking the same individuals on a different basis in recent years, and the same goes for those attacking Clinton supporters. It all goes back to different levels of party loyalty and divergent appraisals of the Obama presidency.

If Sanders and Clinton should both implode and O'Malley become the nominee, the same factions will still be hating and attacking one another over everything O'Malley says and does.

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Why is so much time here spent attacking fellow Democrats? [View all] One of the 99 Jul 2015 OP

My guess... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1

But can't those that support a given candidate One of the 99 Jul 2015 #4

Why does it have to be either/or? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #5

If you can't make the positive case for you candidate One of the 99 Jul 2015 #24

As I said, I don't see it as either/or. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #31

It is either/or. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #37

your logic is flawed. spqr78 Jul 2015 #58

No it is not One of the 99 Jul 2015 #66

You and I are trying to decide where to go to eat. Goblinmonger Jul 2015 #59

This is an election, not dinner. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #67

It is not either/or brooklynite Jul 2015 #77

That's an excuse One of the 99 Jul 2015 #84

Why is it a "smear"? It's an analysis based on facts and experience brooklynite Jul 2015 #86

What facts? One of the 99 Jul 2015 #87

Yeah, facts please... London Lover Man Jul 2015 #88

What's an out-of-bounds attack? jeff47 Jul 2015 #10

Can't you make the case for your candidate One of the 99 Jul 2015 #25

Negatives are as important as positives. jeff47 Jul 2015 #26

No they are not. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #32

And if you make both a positive for yours and a negative against their opponent? jeff47 Jul 2015 #35

If you can make a good positive case for your candidate One of the 99 Jul 2015 #70

Candidate A has great economic policy. jeff47 Jul 2015 #78

Depends One of the 99 Jul 2015 #83

Yes, it is true. And they are not apologetic about it. jeff47 Jul 2015 #90

Sound like One of the 99 Jul 2015 #91

Define attack, please. tazkcmo Jul 2015 #52

Not sure I agree on that point... Adrahil Jul 2015 #41

I have my criticisms of Bernie too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #45

I agree. Adrahil Jul 2015 #47

Totally agree with this. I'm undecided and wnat info, not slime that makes it a chore to cut through bettyellen Jul 2015 #81

Primary season at DU. mmonk Jul 2015 #2

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." Will Rogers TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #3

Nihilism. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #6

Because we are deciding between Democrats at this time. jeff47 Jul 2015 #7

I had one where someone said RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #12

You thought calling a candidate crazy was alertable? Godhumor Jul 2015 #17

I have said less about Mrs. Secretary Clinton and got hidden RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #19

bitter hatred and stalking between two factions that predate the Sanders/Clinton divide carolinayellowdog Jul 2015 #8

There's also a gulf between policies those groups support. jeff47 Jul 2015 #9

Please define attack ? daybranch Jul 2015 #11

Your post for one. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #28

Good grief, you've convinced me! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #36

Don't put words in my mouth. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #38

Well I can't make good cases alone on any of the people I don't support. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #43

Again not what I'm saying. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #69

People are unhappy and they can't see beyond that. randome Jul 2015 #13

maybe a shakeup is needed? elana i am Jul 2015 #14

You'd think... Agschmid Jul 2015 #15

Primary season... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #16

Why unrealistic? One of the 99 Jul 2015 #29

It is unrealistic because... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #64

It is not unrealistic One of the 99 Jul 2015 #65

This is how primaries work. Democrats run against Democrats, not Republicans. Iggo Jul 2015 #18

Sure but why resort to attacks? One of the 99 Jul 2015 #39

The stupid is strong sometimes n/t Lil Missy Jul 2015 #20

The Dem Primary is a food fight. The GOP is the party that never says a bad word about an opponent. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #21

The GOP sure isn't this season. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #51

And it sure is fun to watch, isn't it? MH1 Jul 2015 #72

Because it's primary season. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #22

its like calling someone passive agressive is paasive agressive olddots Jul 2015 #23

some day, we will be above it all, like you HFRN Jul 2015 #27

OLIGARCHY! If the OLIGARCHS win we all lose Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #30

A few questions and thoughts: LWolf Jul 2015 #33

Sounds like you're trying to rationalize bad behavior. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #34

Now THAT's a stretch. LWolf Jul 2015 #44

No it's not One of the 99 Jul 2015 #68

Oh, please. LWolf Jul 2015 #79

Glad that you don't One of the 99 Jul 2015 #82

DU does NOT represent the average Democrat rock Jul 2015 #40

Hear, hear... Eom Purveyor Jul 2015 #42

And paid operators... Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #46

Yep rock Jul 2015 #49

This isn't a recent development Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #48

Agreed, it has gotten rock Jul 2015 #50

republican policy. spqr78 Jul 2015 #62

Yeah Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #63

Thanks and well said nt One of the 99 Jul 2015 #89

Forget the candidates, what about POSUCS? BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #53

2004: Kerry, Dean, Edwards, Joementum. Now that was nasty oasis Jul 2015 #54

No the PUMA thing was way worse. apnu Jul 2015 #56

Seems like the same torpedo crew has come aboard to broadside her oasis Jul 2015 #61

Its like this every 4 years here. apnu Jul 2015 #55

It's DU ... This is what goes on here during the primaries Trajan Jul 2015 #57

Lovers' quarrel seveneyes Jul 2015 #60

We don't even make it through your 1st sentence to know you don't believe what you are pitching TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #71

You're rationalizing. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #73

No, your premise is nonsensical and so much so that we know you don't believe it either TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #74

Only nonsensical to those who are trying to justify bad behavior. One of the 99 Jul 2015 #75

Comparing candidates is not bad behavior and YOU know it because you say so yourself TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #76

Comparing candidate's positions on issues is one thing One of the 99 Jul 2015 #85

purity nt steve2470 Jul 2015 #80