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PATRICK

(12,229 posts)
36. The poll numbers show
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jul 2015

besides possibly a mass stupidity in the middle of the electorate, that the Dems depend on new and enthused voters, groups
NOT unitive blandness, and the GOP desperately clings to the hate smoke of its increasingly Nazified base just to tread water with gerrymandering and fraudulent publicity. For the GOP it's as if the Know Nothings bonded with the Whigs for mutual survival. In history they both died out. The Dems simply do not go in for the kill.

For those that like to sleep better at night, it would be better to see a universal meltdown in the GOP clown show instead of the steady forty per cent they seem to get out of nowhere. i would like see rewarded enthusiasm for a real progressive agenda.

The poll looks decent but is obviously too early for "final" result accuracy. I think it is pretty safe at this point that another dynamic comes into effect with any "fall of the frontrunner" debacle. And that dynamic might not result in a crushing progressive wave. Which we need, but by the history probably won't get without a Hoover and a Depression and something like a surging Labor movement.

If Third Party Trump splits the vote it will be a rare moment when the bad guys unite to do themselves in, irrevocably. Bernie is under the usual test, the first painful steps to approach challenging either frontrunner or a national agenda. Long long ways to go, but the more publicity for a real public agenda the better.

long ways to go ibegurpard Jul 2015 #1
Just from a purely observational position, I agree with your assessment. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #2
I agree with that. bravenak Jul 2015 #6
They're not amazing, they are terrible, particularly combined with his unfavorable numbers. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #7
they'd be terrible if it was January ibegurpard Jul 2015 #21
Amazing Nite Owl Jul 2015 #31
Thanks Cali! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #3
You're welcome! Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #15
As it stands today. Half-Century Man Jul 2015 #4
Those Not Sure's are the target arcane1 Jul 2015 #5
And judging from how his unfavorables rise as folks get to know him, they wont break his way. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #8
Oh they will. Yes indeed! arcane1 Jul 2015 #11
No they won't, and we can see that from the trend already. As people get to know him stevenleser Jul 2015 #20
Once people see through the smears, they'll love him n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #23
Has nothing to do with smears it has to do with knowing what he is about stevenleser Jul 2015 #25
That explains all the empty stadiums he's appearing in. eom Qutzupalotl Jul 2015 #13
Trump is drawing huge crowds too, and his unfavorables are also sky high stevenleser Jul 2015 #19
Remind us again how many people Clinton drew in the enormous city of New York? arcane1 Jul 2015 #24
Enough to win it by large margins each time she ran for senate here. stevenleser Jul 2015 #26
New York isn't America. She has to win over the people who chose Obama over her last time :) arcane1 Jul 2015 #28
And now you move the goalposts after discussing New York. Hillary will win it all stevenleser Jul 2015 #30
A Hillary supporter... bvar22 Jul 2015 #17
It's all they got.. Pretty soon they'll have to go back to the beginning... London Lover Man Jul 2015 #18
You ready to relive the red scare? Alittleliberal Jul 2015 #32
What did the PPP polls show at this time in 2007? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #9
That's what I wondered. bvf Jul 2015 #14
Polls tazkcmo Jul 2015 #35
so both trump trump. restorefreedom Jul 2015 #10
Those high "not sure" numbers renders this pointless at this point rocktivity Jul 2015 #12
Not bad! Go Bernie! morningfog Jul 2015 #16
wow, I am amazed that Sanders is already doing that well. Vattel Jul 2015 #22
Me too. He's almost into the MOE range vis-a-vis Hillary with 6 months to go before primaries begin BlueStreak Jul 2015 #29
People are just learning about him in the states he is speaking in mmonk Jul 2015 #27
The gross percentages mean nothing, you can only tell by the state to state MiniMe Jul 2015 #33
These are interesting polling numbers Gothmog Jul 2015 #34
The poll numbers show PATRICK Jul 2015 #36
That has to suck for Trump Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #37
Bernie Sanders could beat the Donald. No surprise there. Lil Missy Jul 2015 #38
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