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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: So let me get this straight... [View all]Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)68. Hillary claims China is hacking EVERYTHING, is she right?
The New York Times reported Monday night that, during her tenure at the State Department, Hillary Clinton never used her official e-mail account to conduct communications, relying instead on a private e-mail account. As the Times notes, only official accounts are automatically retained under the Federal Records Act, meaning that none of Clinton's e-mail communication was preserved.
In March 2013, an adviser to Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal, had his e-mail hacked by "Guccifer" -- the Romanian hacker perhaps best known for revealing George W. Bush's paintings to the world. At the time, Gawker reported that Blumenthal was communicating with an account that appeared to belong to Clinton at the "clintonemail.com" domain. The content of some of those e-mails was published by RT.com.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/03/02/hacked-emails-indicate-that-hillary-clinton-used-a-domain-registered-the-day-of-her-senate-hearings/
In March 2013, an adviser to Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal, had his e-mail hacked by "Guccifer" -- the Romanian hacker perhaps best known for revealing George W. Bush's paintings to the world. At the time, Gawker reported that Blumenthal was communicating with an account that appeared to belong to Clinton at the "clintonemail.com" domain. The content of some of those e-mails was published by RT.com.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/03/02/hacked-emails-indicate-that-hillary-clinton-used-a-domain-registered-the-day-of-her-senate-hearings/
And Hillary believes China is hacking EVERYTHING...
obviously, everything included the email of
the Secretary of State, right
Theyre trying to hack into everything that doesnt move in America stealing commercial secrets, blueprints from defense contractors, stealing huge amounts of government information all looking for an advantage, she said. Make no mistake: they know theyre in a competition, and theyre going to do everything they can to win it.
Clintons remarks come three months after the U.S. government learned of a massive breach of federal databases that compromised the personal records of millions of federal employees. State officials believe the hackers were operating out of China, an allegation Beijing has called irresponsible and unscientific. A year ago, the New York Times reported that U.S. security agencies traced a similar incident last March to China, though it remains unclear if those hackers were state mercenaries or acting alone.
http://time.com/3946275/hillary-clinton-china-hacking-cyberwarfare-usa/
Clintons remarks come three months after the U.S. government learned of a massive breach of federal databases that compromised the personal records of millions of federal employees. State officials believe the hackers were operating out of China, an allegation Beijing has called irresponsible and unscientific. A year ago, the New York Times reported that U.S. security agencies traced a similar incident last March to China, though it remains unclear if those hackers were state mercenaries or acting alone.
http://time.com/3946275/hillary-clinton-china-hacking-cyberwarfare-usa/
The issue IS NOT if Hillary committed a crime.
The issue IS, did she allow classified information
to be hacked by adversaries because she broke protocol?
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And which specific facts and truths in the OP are substantially incorrect?
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2015
#91
The Times specifically claims that both communities state the information was classified
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2015
#127
LOL. My sigline has nothing to do with Bernie and everything to do with his supporters ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#184
If one really wants to know what is on the server, ask Russia and/or China. They know. eom
Purveyor
Jul 2015
#2
So you really believe that no one would be interested in the SOS's private server.
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#65
They probably got it from the email Hillary sent to their ambassador(s).
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#108
And you are telling me you don't think our SOS would send an email directly to
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#113
So let's guess your point. Private servers are safer than government so she was actually
rhett o rick
Jul 2015
#58
It was legal but it was also poor judgement. Why would anyone that knew they
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#67
That's the worst rationalization ever. "They did it so why can't we?" The answer is, of course,
rhett o rick
Jul 2015
#142
I'm not sure what you can extrapolate from a sample of 40 emails out of the thousands she sent
tularetom
Jul 2015
#3
She didn't wonder? She never asked? She just assumed all the secret squirrel stuff was secure?
tularetom
Jul 2015
#14
Not knowing has never been an excuse. She did know she was taking a big risk when she made
rhett o rick
Jul 2015
#143
Oh... I don't know. The AFT extrapolated Hillary's endorsement from what? 1,064 members?
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2015
#27
I can very easily believe she didn't know what was classified and what wasn't
Recursion
Jul 2015
#32
Part of the primary process if to insure that our candidate can not be easily attacked
awake
Jul 2015
#153
The State Department refused to turn over all of Clinton's emails for the review
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2015
#11
Government officials sending classified info from email servers in their garage?
Cheese Sandwich
Jul 2015
#7
You're supposed to go into a special room and use a special email address to read classified stuff
Recursion
Jul 2015
#36
Let's get this straight. The NYT has given a flawed report, has edited the report, Elijah Cummings
Thinkingabout
Jul 2015
#30
Configuration Control Board. The government regulations about computer systems.
Recursion
Jul 2015
#35
Well, you know, the Repugs will try and make a big deal out of anything, they're so desperate.
YOHABLO
Jul 2015
#39
The question no one wants to answer, or even ASKED is... WAS HER SERVER HACKED?
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2015
#51
Seems like a bit of a stretch, are you suggesting she gets a pass and Snowden shouldn't?
marble falls
Jul 2015
#76
Truly, I think that people should play by the rules they agree to play by
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2015
#81
Actually, I think any intrepid DUer need only Google your username and "manning"
msanthrope
Jul 2015
#122
"Celebrate" is a rather subjective term manny. what would be more objective
msanthrope
Jul 2015
#157
Messy and regrettable as this thread has become, Manny, I implied nothing at all.
msanthrope
Jul 2015
#160
He knows this from his previous thread. He just can't get enough of bashing Democrats.
randome
Jul 2015
#111
During my intel years in the 60's, I saw things classified after release to the public.
alfredo
Jul 2015
#131
Messy and Regrettable. ....is what the NY TIMES is now calling their reportage......nt
msanthrope
Jul 2015
#158
Yup, yet there is no self-delete or mea culpa from the OP. The source they used has issued one, but
stevenleser
Jul 2015
#175
The article at my link ... You know, the article of the news outlet saying we screwed up ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#191