2016 Postmortem

R B Garr

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169. Exactly, he didn't want to veer from his canned talking points to address

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:38 PM

Jul 2015

the background enforcement question, and it looked like an intentional strategy to not stray from his prepared language to actually answer the question. I saw that and wondered, too.

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Bernie is gaining traction by avoiding gun reform... [View all] Sancho Jul 2015 OP

What are the other Democratic candidate's plans to "actually keep guns from the hands PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #1

O'Malley has a plan Andy823 Jul 2015 #11

I agree, Martin has come out on this issue Sancho Jul 2015 #39

Bernie talked about getting the guns used in killings off the streets think Jul 2015 #2

No - he has not called for a handgun ban. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #5

Neither Hillary Clinton nor O'Malley have called for a ban on handguns. So why single out Sanders? think Jul 2015 #10

Bernie supports an AWB hack89 Jul 2015 #13

Did Hillary call to ban handguns? Yes or no. think Jul 2015 #16

I thought we were talking about Bernie ' s position hack89 Jul 2015 #20

Bernie's position on guns is very similar to Hillary's. Thank you. think Jul 2015 #22

Description of the AWB: think Jul 2015 #21

I forgot about Feinstein's pipedream hack89 Jul 2015 #25

I think Jim Webb even took Obama to shoot his .45 one time. hollowdweller Jul 2015 #19

To me, the gun supporters listen to MTP and hear someone they like. Sancho Jul 2015 #40

The NRA gives him a D- rating. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #147

we know why restorefreedom Jul 2015 #103

That would be a politically stupid move and he is not stupid. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #83

What do you call this. at 1:22 into the video. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #105

No comment, now that the truth comes out. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #112

He is talking about an AWB ie rifles. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #116

If an instant background check won't keep guns from the hands of dangerous people... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #3

HOw about a one month backround check dsc Jul 2015 #6

I agree with the idea in principle...... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #7

So a big enough search to ensure the check fails hack89 Jul 2015 #15

No it isn't sure to fail dsc Jul 2015 #24

All of which is totally irrevelent to 90% of gun deaths hack89 Jul 2015 #26

How about a data base for people with mental illness hack89 Jul 2015 #27

I have no problem with adding that to the check dsc Jul 2015 #33

Suicides and crime are the biggest contributors to that rate hack89 Jul 2015 #35

actually backround checks would help both dsc Jul 2015 #37

Criminals obtain guns illegally every hour of the day hack89 Jul 2015 #41

...+1 840high Jul 2015 #151

So how many Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #65

Since you ask, and I've been interested in this topic for a while... Sancho Jul 2015 #49

All good points, I would be very willing to register my guns, carry liabiity insurance, etc whatever Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #86

It doesn't look like any of these measures would have prevented Sandy Hook aikoaiko Jul 2015 #100

I think it would... Sancho Jul 2015 #136

I agree that not every law needs to work 100% of the time, but people often cite Lanza's massacre... aikoaiko Jul 2015 #170

What you propose is well thought out...... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #99

Some of those ideas might have popular support TeddyR Jul 2015 #134

Thanks for at least thinking about it... Sancho Jul 2015 #161

He's still thinking like a Senator... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #4

Since he'll probably BE President, you just might have something there. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #29

That is nothing to be proud of.. if true.. Peacetrain Jul 2015 #8

Not even true.. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #23

I was posting as I watched...but I think this is the link. Sancho Jul 2015 #43

That was only part of the interview. If you can't show the whole interview, that's crap! Snotcicles Jul 2015 #74

Not my call... Sancho Jul 2015 #78

100% Spin. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #9

I suggest people watch the interview, themselves, rather than believe a partisans opinion of it.nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #12

I posted the link in 43 Sancho Jul 2015 #51

Quite an interesting analysis you have there -- plus misleading Armstead Jul 2015 #14

Hmmm...I'd go for that... Sancho Jul 2015 #56

Bernie 's position on guns is very main stream hack89 Jul 2015 #17

+1.nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #45

I'm hoping the Democratic party will get tougher as a platform issue Sancho Jul 2015 #80

They want to win national elections hack89 Jul 2015 #82

Two things: First, someone finally admits Bernie's got traction. Second, you actually think... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #18

Yes, the Archie Bunker types like Bernie...it fits perfectly. Sancho Jul 2015 #30

And there is something wrong with that? Armstead Jul 2015 #34

I didn't say it was right or wrong...it's just one explanation for the conservative poll data... Sancho Jul 2015 #38

Economic issues do not apply to everyone? Armstead Jul 2015 #52

Absolutely... Sancho Jul 2015 #77

Yup. The fictional Archie Bunker was big on Socialism. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #42

I don't think Archie was very thoughtful on socialism or whatever.... Sancho Jul 2015 #47

Bernie is addressing lots of problems. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #28

So far, that's not clear to me...but I agree that states and cities may differ. Sancho Jul 2015 #163

...... daleanime Jul 2015 #31

He is tone deaf on this issue. He can talk all he wants, but MADem Jul 2015 #32

Which nation is selling the most WEAPONS globally? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #48

No one (save you, maybe?) is claiming that some people are demanding any such thing. MADem Jul 2015 #50

And he's the candidate of the MIC too! neverforget Jul 2015 #54

He's More Of The Same, then. MADem Jul 2015 #90

Clinton likes all of those and Wall Street too. nt. neverforget Jul 2015 #104

You can't like the MIC and not like Wall Street. MADem Jul 2015 #113

Only tone deaf to those who delibratly choose not to hear Armstead Jul 2015 #55

People hear loud and clear how he felt about the Brady bill and liability for gun manufacturers. MADem Jul 2015 #61

The reality is that anyone who believes that any meaningful gun legislation can occur without still_one Jul 2015 #36

Where's my PONY! I want a PONY! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #44

It was an explanation for Bernie's new poll increase - particularly with conservatives Sancho Jul 2015 #63

Bernie is sticking to his long held positions ibegurpard Jul 2015 #46

He's not gaining traction with the people who will take him to the nomination. MADem Jul 2015 #53

then you have nothing to worry about ibegurpard Jul 2015 #60

Huh? Who said I was worried? MADem Jul 2015 #71

And so you have nothing to worry about ibegurpard Jul 2015 #73

Gee. Thanks for giving me that permission.... MADem Jul 2015 #85

He supports hunting? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #57

This poster is a Hillary Supporter Trajan Jul 2015 #58

OK, that explains it. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #66

Yes, I'm a Hillary supporter, but I didn't put that in the OP. I'm a long time gun control advocate Sancho Jul 2015 #68

Then I guess you would have a problem with Mrs Clinton too, for not saying all guns should be banned darkangel218 Jul 2015 #70

Actually, I prefer a different method that banning guns... Sancho Jul 2015 #88

I agree with what you say, as I am aware that there are many who are unfit to purchase and use a gun darkangel218 Jul 2015 #91

Hillary has come out stronger lately, but none of the candidates go far enough for me on guns. Sancho Jul 2015 #107

Hillary won't do squad, if elected President. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #108

You prefer "People Control". I shudder to think... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #97

I think he meant stricter regulations as to who would be allowed to own a gun darkangel218 Jul 2015 #109

One might wonder why you aren't on a thread praising your own preferred candidate Trajan Jul 2015 #81

+1,000,000 beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #118

I've posted plenty about Hillary and other candidates too... Sancho Jul 2015 #162

Gun reform will take generations. Turbineguy Jul 2015 #59

Not enough POC, secret gun nut, has an illegitimate son, comes from Brooklyn? Where is his birth mikehiggins Jul 2015 #62

Don't quote me, but I even think he mentioned that if the guns aren't for hunting they should Snotcicles Jul 2015 #64

Bernie gun position is well known and hasn't changed... Sancho Jul 2015 #72

Mixing up real concerns with cultural ones and foolishness doesn't work. MADem Jul 2015 #84

He has the exact same positions as Obama and Hillary on guns Report1212 Jul 2015 #67

+1 darkangel218 Jul 2015 #69

because banning assault weapons and other guns used to kill people, preventing violent criminals, magical thyme Jul 2015 #75

Bernie ' s views on this are mainstream ibegurpard Jul 2015 #76

agreed. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #79

Sanders has the best and most balanced position on guns of any of our Dem candidates, petronius Jul 2015 #87

And the OP knows it ibegurpard Jul 2015 #92

I didn't start a comparison, but it's relevant I suppose... Sancho Jul 2015 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #89

It's not as funny as you think... Sancho Jul 2015 #95

Meatheads for Bernie! Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #96

that's pretty good... Sancho Jul 2015 #106

Bernie is gaining traction by speaking directly to people's lives, LWolf Jul 2015 #94

I think Bernie certainly resonates with some people who want economic reform. Sancho Jul 2015 #98

I'll refer you to Sander's recent speech to La Raza, LWolf Jul 2015 #101

I did notice that Bernie added the path to citizenship in the La Raza speech Sancho Jul 2015 #110

Meh, Both Bernie and Hillary are about the same on guns. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #102

Hillary bragged about going hunting when she pandered to gun owners in 2008: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #111

That's not true...I was looking at what Bernie said and the poll results... Sancho Jul 2015 #114

Bullshit. You deliberately left out part of the interview. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #115

What was left out? Sancho Jul 2015 #117

Now you're claiming you don't know how to post a link? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #119

I did post the link to MTP, but some reported that it didn't show the whole interview Sancho Jul 2015 #124

"If Hillary used some kind of hunting as a reason to avoid gun control, I would disagree with it." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #126

I believe that "hunting" and "background checks" are excuses to avoid tough laws. Sancho Jul 2015 #165

Exactly, he didn't want to veer from his canned talking points to address R B Garr Jul 2015 #169

Just for your interest, and remember that I was posting why Bernie was gaining in the polls... Sancho Jul 2015 #122

Not interested in your spin, Sancho. Once you called Bernie a "gun nut" in your op beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #123

You can look at my history for a long time... Sancho Jul 2015 #125

You ignored what he actually said about supporting gun control today. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #128

Then please...if Bernie has changed his tune what is it? Sancho Jul 2015 #129

He didn't need to "change his tune", he is and has been pro-gun control. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #131

Ok then, then what is your reason for the polls? Sancho Jul 2015 #132

"I backed up my OP which was based on today's Meet the Press." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #133

You obviously didn't watch the MTP clip, because Sancho's assessment R B Garr Jul 2015 #157

Except Obama said the same thing about hunters after Sandy Hook: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #177

Why can't you remember that your spin last week sounded like Sarah Palin R B Garr Jul 2015 #180

That's all the Clinton hanger-ons has - polls. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #137

lol, this coming from someone who parrots Sarah Palin gun/hunting R B Garr Jul 2015 #159

Why are you comparing Obama and Hillary to Sarah Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #171

You remember everything anti Obama and Hillary but forget last week? R B Garr Jul 2015 #173

Why are you comparing Obama, Hillary and other Dems who support hunting to Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #175

And "someone" here didn't even watch the MTP clip you are spamming. R B Garr Jul 2015 #195

Why do you keep comparing Obama, Hillary and other Dems to Sarah Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #197

What's "calculated" is you spamming this thread with bogus R B Garr Jul 2015 #200

Citing quotes from Obama and Hillary is "spamming this thread"? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #202

Yes, you do "has a sad". You didn't even watch the MTP clip, R B Garr Jul 2015 #204

Aw, you still mad? Of course I watched it. I logged in immediately and celebrated with Bernistas! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #206

The poster you're responding to parrots Sarah Palin gun/hunting points if R B Garr Jul 2015 #160

Both Obama and Hillary parroted those same "talking points": beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #172

You remember everything anti Hillary from 2008 and anti Obama R B Garr Jul 2015 #176

Why do you keep saying Dems who support hunting are parroting Sarah Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #179

Why do you remember everything anti Hillary and anti Obama R B Garr Jul 2015 #181

Why do you keep attacking Obama, Hillary and other Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #182

You can't even remember the Palin-esque spin you wrote last week R B Garr Jul 2015 #183

Now you're attacking poor people who hunt for food in rural states? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #184

You can't even remember the Palin-esque spin you posted R B Garr Jul 2015 #185

Why do you want to prevent people from hunting for food? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #187

Link to where I said what you typed. What's extreme is using Sarah Palin talking points R B Garr Jul 2015 #191

Why do you disagree with Obama, Hillary and other Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #194

lol, I just saw another response of yours. You didn't even watch the MTP R B Garr Jul 2015 #196

Why do you condemn Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #198

You didn't even watch the MTP clip or you wouldn't have spammed R B Garr Jul 2015 #201

You mad, bro? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #203

THANK YOU for admitting that you didn't even watch the MTP clip R B Garr Jul 2015 #205

Why are you lying about my post? I said I celebrated with my homies in the BSG after watching it: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #207

You remember everything anti-Hillary and anti-Obama but can't remember R B Garr Jul 2015 #186

I agree with Hillary, Obama and Bernie, why don't you? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #188

You parrot Sarah Palin talking points to divert discussion from R B Garr Jul 2015 #189

Do you hate hunting in general or just Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #190

It's obvious your 2008 Clinton vendetta is self-induced. Looking R B Garr Jul 2015 #192

Obama: "I have a profound respect for the traditions of hunting..." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #193

Quit telling people not to believe what they see with their own eyes R B Garr Jul 2015 #158

Right here at 1:22 so they can see with their own eyes. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #164

They can see the whole thing with their own eyes. R B Garr Jul 2015 #168

Don't bother with that one, Snotcicles. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #174

I don't come in this cesspool much anymore, It's impossible to have an honest debate, besides Snotcicles Jul 2015 #208

GD P is great for entertainment if you don't take most of it seriously. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #209

I'd be willing to bet my life that Hillary's never been hunting ibegurpard Jul 2015 #120

Entirely possible, she was obviously pandering to NRA types. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #121

I don't have a link or copy of the old story of Hillary as a child and her father. Sancho Jul 2015 #127

His record on gun control is why I will probably will not support him in the Primary. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #130

One of the reasons I am no longer supporting him. Koinos Jul 2015 #135

There are no other genuinely progressive candidates in the race. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #148

Your opinion only. Koinos Jul 2015 #150

He's always been pro gun-control London Lover Man Jul 2015 #138

Look up all his votes on gun control issues. Why would you believe the NRA when you can check every Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #139

I don't believe the NRA or HC supporters when it comes to the issues: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #140

Sanders voted to immunize gun corporations and against the Bradey bill. You proved my point. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #142

" Bernie Sanders likes corporations that make guns ..." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #143

Keep proving Sanders is pro-gun, it is a service. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #144

Actually your side has been pushing this meme for months and it still hasn't turned off DUers. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #149

I don't have a side, so I am able to read his record without tryin to justify Sanders Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #167

No hopefully he wont. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #156

Oops. DAMN! cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #141

Bullshit. Bernie is gaining progressive and Democratic votes every day. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #145

Well, the entire OP was about Bernie gaining CONSERVATIVE poll votes, and a possible reason. Sancho Jul 2015 #152

Bernie has actually come out better after the Netroots thing. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #154

Tougher gun laws can't be worth more conservative policies on everything else. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #146

That's my theory. Is it something else Bernie said, or are the polls simply wrong? Sancho Jul 2015 #153

More likely, it is something else. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #155

He isn't avoiding gun reform. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #166

You should sign up for his twitter feed. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #178

And yet... Raymond31 Jul 2015 #199

Giving police more power to harass poc's is not going to solve anything. WDIM Jul 2015 #210

I don't think so libodem Jul 2015 #211