2016 Postmortem

beam me up scottie

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174. Don't bother with that one, Snotcicles.

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 04:02 PM

Jul 2015

They're not interested in a discussion, just following me from thread to thread comparing me to Sarah Palin hoping someone will agree with them.

They did it to me on other issues too, it's not about guns at all, it's about not being properly deferential to Hillary and her supporters.

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Bernie is gaining traction by avoiding gun reform... [View all] Sancho Jul 2015 OP

What are the other Democratic candidate's plans to "actually keep guns from the hands PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #1

O'Malley has a plan Andy823 Jul 2015 #11

I agree, Martin has come out on this issue Sancho Jul 2015 #39

Bernie talked about getting the guns used in killings off the streets think Jul 2015 #2

No - he has not called for a handgun ban. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #5

Neither Hillary Clinton nor O'Malley have called for a ban on handguns. So why single out Sanders? think Jul 2015 #10

Bernie supports an AWB hack89 Jul 2015 #13

Did Hillary call to ban handguns? Yes or no. think Jul 2015 #16

I thought we were talking about Bernie ' s position hack89 Jul 2015 #20

Bernie's position on guns is very similar to Hillary's. Thank you. think Jul 2015 #22

Description of the AWB: think Jul 2015 #21

I forgot about Feinstein's pipedream hack89 Jul 2015 #25

I think Jim Webb even took Obama to shoot his .45 one time. hollowdweller Jul 2015 #19

To me, the gun supporters listen to MTP and hear someone they like. Sancho Jul 2015 #40

The NRA gives him a D- rating. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #147

we know why restorefreedom Jul 2015 #103

That would be a politically stupid move and he is not stupid. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #83

What do you call this. at 1:22 into the video. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #105

No comment, now that the truth comes out. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #112

He is talking about an AWB ie rifles. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #116

If an instant background check won't keep guns from the hands of dangerous people... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #3

HOw about a one month backround check dsc Jul 2015 #6

I agree with the idea in principle...... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #7

So a big enough search to ensure the check fails hack89 Jul 2015 #15

No it isn't sure to fail dsc Jul 2015 #24

All of which is totally irrevelent to 90% of gun deaths hack89 Jul 2015 #26

How about a data base for people with mental illness hack89 Jul 2015 #27

I have no problem with adding that to the check dsc Jul 2015 #33

Suicides and crime are the biggest contributors to that rate hack89 Jul 2015 #35

actually backround checks would help both dsc Jul 2015 #37

Criminals obtain guns illegally every hour of the day hack89 Jul 2015 #41

...+1 840high Jul 2015 #151

So how many Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #65

Since you ask, and I've been interested in this topic for a while... Sancho Jul 2015 #49

All good points, I would be very willing to register my guns, carry liabiity insurance, etc whatever Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #86

It doesn't look like any of these measures would have prevented Sandy Hook aikoaiko Jul 2015 #100

I think it would... Sancho Jul 2015 #136

I agree that not every law needs to work 100% of the time, but people often cite Lanza's massacre... aikoaiko Jul 2015 #170

What you propose is well thought out...... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #99

Some of those ideas might have popular support TeddyR Jul 2015 #134

Thanks for at least thinking about it... Sancho Jul 2015 #161

He's still thinking like a Senator... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #4

Since he'll probably BE President, you just might have something there. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #29

That is nothing to be proud of.. if true.. Peacetrain Jul 2015 #8

Not even true.. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #23

I was posting as I watched...but I think this is the link. Sancho Jul 2015 #43

That was only part of the interview. If you can't show the whole interview, that's crap! Snotcicles Jul 2015 #74

Not my call... Sancho Jul 2015 #78

100% Spin. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #9

I suggest people watch the interview, themselves, rather than believe a partisans opinion of it.nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #12

I posted the link in 43 Sancho Jul 2015 #51

Quite an interesting analysis you have there -- plus misleading Armstead Jul 2015 #14

Hmmm...I'd go for that... Sancho Jul 2015 #56

Bernie 's position on guns is very main stream hack89 Jul 2015 #17

+1.nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #45

I'm hoping the Democratic party will get tougher as a platform issue Sancho Jul 2015 #80

They want to win national elections hack89 Jul 2015 #82

Two things: First, someone finally admits Bernie's got traction. Second, you actually think... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #18

Yes, the Archie Bunker types like Bernie...it fits perfectly. Sancho Jul 2015 #30

And there is something wrong with that? Armstead Jul 2015 #34

I didn't say it was right or wrong...it's just one explanation for the conservative poll data... Sancho Jul 2015 #38

Economic issues do not apply to everyone? Armstead Jul 2015 #52

Absolutely... Sancho Jul 2015 #77

Yup. The fictional Archie Bunker was big on Socialism. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #42

I don't think Archie was very thoughtful on socialism or whatever.... Sancho Jul 2015 #47

Bernie is addressing lots of problems. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #28

So far, that's not clear to me...but I agree that states and cities may differ. Sancho Jul 2015 #163

...... daleanime Jul 2015 #31

He is tone deaf on this issue. He can talk all he wants, but MADem Jul 2015 #32

Which nation is selling the most WEAPONS globally? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #48

No one (save you, maybe?) is claiming that some people are demanding any such thing. MADem Jul 2015 #50

And he's the candidate of the MIC too! neverforget Jul 2015 #54

He's More Of The Same, then. MADem Jul 2015 #90

Clinton likes all of those and Wall Street too. nt. neverforget Jul 2015 #104

You can't like the MIC and not like Wall Street. MADem Jul 2015 #113

Only tone deaf to those who delibratly choose not to hear Armstead Jul 2015 #55

People hear loud and clear how he felt about the Brady bill and liability for gun manufacturers. MADem Jul 2015 #61

The reality is that anyone who believes that any meaningful gun legislation can occur without still_one Jul 2015 #36

Where's my PONY! I want a PONY! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #44

It was an explanation for Bernie's new poll increase - particularly with conservatives Sancho Jul 2015 #63

Bernie is sticking to his long held positions ibegurpard Jul 2015 #46

He's not gaining traction with the people who will take him to the nomination. MADem Jul 2015 #53

then you have nothing to worry about ibegurpard Jul 2015 #60

Huh? Who said I was worried? MADem Jul 2015 #71

And so you have nothing to worry about ibegurpard Jul 2015 #73

Gee. Thanks for giving me that permission.... MADem Jul 2015 #85

He supports hunting? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #57

This poster is a Hillary Supporter Trajan Jul 2015 #58

OK, that explains it. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #66

Yes, I'm a Hillary supporter, but I didn't put that in the OP. I'm a long time gun control advocate Sancho Jul 2015 #68

Then I guess you would have a problem with Mrs Clinton too, for not saying all guns should be banned darkangel218 Jul 2015 #70

Actually, I prefer a different method that banning guns... Sancho Jul 2015 #88

I agree with what you say, as I am aware that there are many who are unfit to purchase and use a gun darkangel218 Jul 2015 #91

Hillary has come out stronger lately, but none of the candidates go far enough for me on guns. Sancho Jul 2015 #107

Hillary won't do squad, if elected President. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #108

You prefer "People Control". I shudder to think... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #97

I think he meant stricter regulations as to who would be allowed to own a gun darkangel218 Jul 2015 #109

One might wonder why you aren't on a thread praising your own preferred candidate Trajan Jul 2015 #81

+1,000,000 beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #118

I've posted plenty about Hillary and other candidates too... Sancho Jul 2015 #162

Gun reform will take generations. Turbineguy Jul 2015 #59

Not enough POC, secret gun nut, has an illegitimate son, comes from Brooklyn? Where is his birth mikehiggins Jul 2015 #62

Don't quote me, but I even think he mentioned that if the guns aren't for hunting they should Snotcicles Jul 2015 #64

Bernie gun position is well known and hasn't changed... Sancho Jul 2015 #72

Mixing up real concerns with cultural ones and foolishness doesn't work. MADem Jul 2015 #84

He has the exact same positions as Obama and Hillary on guns Report1212 Jul 2015 #67

+1 darkangel218 Jul 2015 #69

because banning assault weapons and other guns used to kill people, preventing violent criminals, magical thyme Jul 2015 #75

Bernie ' s views on this are mainstream ibegurpard Jul 2015 #76

agreed. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #79

Sanders has the best and most balanced position on guns of any of our Dem candidates, petronius Jul 2015 #87

And the OP knows it ibegurpard Jul 2015 #92

I didn't start a comparison, but it's relevant I suppose... Sancho Jul 2015 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #89

It's not as funny as you think... Sancho Jul 2015 #95

Meatheads for Bernie! Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #96

that's pretty good... Sancho Jul 2015 #106

Bernie is gaining traction by speaking directly to people's lives, LWolf Jul 2015 #94

I think Bernie certainly resonates with some people who want economic reform. Sancho Jul 2015 #98

I'll refer you to Sander's recent speech to La Raza, LWolf Jul 2015 #101

I did notice that Bernie added the path to citizenship in the La Raza speech Sancho Jul 2015 #110

Meh, Both Bernie and Hillary are about the same on guns. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #102

Hillary bragged about going hunting when she pandered to gun owners in 2008: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #111

That's not true...I was looking at what Bernie said and the poll results... Sancho Jul 2015 #114

Bullshit. You deliberately left out part of the interview. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #115

What was left out? Sancho Jul 2015 #117

Now you're claiming you don't know how to post a link? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #119

I did post the link to MTP, but some reported that it didn't show the whole interview Sancho Jul 2015 #124

"If Hillary used some kind of hunting as a reason to avoid gun control, I would disagree with it." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #126

I believe that "hunting" and "background checks" are excuses to avoid tough laws. Sancho Jul 2015 #165

Exactly, he didn't want to veer from his canned talking points to address R B Garr Jul 2015 #169

Just for your interest, and remember that I was posting why Bernie was gaining in the polls... Sancho Jul 2015 #122

Not interested in your spin, Sancho. Once you called Bernie a "gun nut" in your op beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #123

You can look at my history for a long time... Sancho Jul 2015 #125

You ignored what he actually said about supporting gun control today. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #128

Then please...if Bernie has changed his tune what is it? Sancho Jul 2015 #129

He didn't need to "change his tune", he is and has been pro-gun control. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #131

Ok then, then what is your reason for the polls? Sancho Jul 2015 #132

"I backed up my OP which was based on today's Meet the Press." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #133

You obviously didn't watch the MTP clip, because Sancho's assessment R B Garr Jul 2015 #157

Except Obama said the same thing about hunters after Sandy Hook: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #177

Why can't you remember that your spin last week sounded like Sarah Palin R B Garr Jul 2015 #180

That's all the Clinton hanger-ons has - polls. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #137

lol, this coming from someone who parrots Sarah Palin gun/hunting R B Garr Jul 2015 #159

Why are you comparing Obama and Hillary to Sarah Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #171

You remember everything anti Obama and Hillary but forget last week? R B Garr Jul 2015 #173

Why are you comparing Obama, Hillary and other Dems who support hunting to Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #175

And "someone" here didn't even watch the MTP clip you are spamming. R B Garr Jul 2015 #195

Why do you keep comparing Obama, Hillary and other Dems to Sarah Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #197

What's "calculated" is you spamming this thread with bogus R B Garr Jul 2015 #200

Citing quotes from Obama and Hillary is "spamming this thread"? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #202

Yes, you do "has a sad". You didn't even watch the MTP clip, R B Garr Jul 2015 #204

Aw, you still mad? Of course I watched it. I logged in immediately and celebrated with Bernistas! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #206

The poster you're responding to parrots Sarah Palin gun/hunting points if R B Garr Jul 2015 #160

Both Obama and Hillary parroted those same "talking points": beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #172

You remember everything anti Hillary from 2008 and anti Obama R B Garr Jul 2015 #176

Why do you keep saying Dems who support hunting are parroting Sarah Palin? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #179

Why do you remember everything anti Hillary and anti Obama R B Garr Jul 2015 #181

Why do you keep attacking Obama, Hillary and other Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #182

You can't even remember the Palin-esque spin you wrote last week R B Garr Jul 2015 #183

Now you're attacking poor people who hunt for food in rural states? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #184

You can't even remember the Palin-esque spin you posted R B Garr Jul 2015 #185

Why do you want to prevent people from hunting for food? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #187

Link to where I said what you typed. What's extreme is using Sarah Palin talking points R B Garr Jul 2015 #191

Why do you disagree with Obama, Hillary and other Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #194

lol, I just saw another response of yours. You didn't even watch the MTP R B Garr Jul 2015 #196

Why do you condemn Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #198

You didn't even watch the MTP clip or you wouldn't have spammed R B Garr Jul 2015 #201

You mad, bro? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #203

THANK YOU for admitting that you didn't even watch the MTP clip R B Garr Jul 2015 #205

Why are you lying about my post? I said I celebrated with my homies in the BSG after watching it: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #207

You remember everything anti-Hillary and anti-Obama but can't remember R B Garr Jul 2015 #186

I agree with Hillary, Obama and Bernie, why don't you? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #188

You parrot Sarah Palin talking points to divert discussion from R B Garr Jul 2015 #189

Do you hate hunting in general or just Dems who support hunting? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #190

It's obvious your 2008 Clinton vendetta is self-induced. Looking R B Garr Jul 2015 #192

Obama: "I have a profound respect for the traditions of hunting..." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #193

Quit telling people not to believe what they see with their own eyes R B Garr Jul 2015 #158

Right here at 1:22 so they can see with their own eyes. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #164

They can see the whole thing with their own eyes. R B Garr Jul 2015 #168

Don't bother with that one, Snotcicles. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #174

I don't come in this cesspool much anymore, It's impossible to have an honest debate, besides Snotcicles Jul 2015 #208

GD P is great for entertainment if you don't take most of it seriously. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #209

I'd be willing to bet my life that Hillary's never been hunting ibegurpard Jul 2015 #120

Entirely possible, she was obviously pandering to NRA types. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #121

I don't have a link or copy of the old story of Hillary as a child and her father. Sancho Jul 2015 #127

His record on gun control is why I will probably will not support him in the Primary. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #130

One of the reasons I am no longer supporting him. Koinos Jul 2015 #135

There are no other genuinely progressive candidates in the race. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #148

Your opinion only. Koinos Jul 2015 #150

He's always been pro gun-control London Lover Man Jul 2015 #138

Look up all his votes on gun control issues. Why would you believe the NRA when you can check every Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #139

I don't believe the NRA or HC supporters when it comes to the issues: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #140

Sanders voted to immunize gun corporations and against the Bradey bill. You proved my point. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #142

" Bernie Sanders likes corporations that make guns ..." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #143

Keep proving Sanders is pro-gun, it is a service. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #144

Actually your side has been pushing this meme for months and it still hasn't turned off DUers. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #149

I don't have a side, so I am able to read his record without tryin to justify Sanders Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #167

No hopefully he wont. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #156

Oops. DAMN! cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #141

Bullshit. Bernie is gaining progressive and Democratic votes every day. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #145

Well, the entire OP was about Bernie gaining CONSERVATIVE poll votes, and a possible reason. Sancho Jul 2015 #152

Bernie has actually come out better after the Netroots thing. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #154

Tougher gun laws can't be worth more conservative policies on everything else. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #146

That's my theory. Is it something else Bernie said, or are the polls simply wrong? Sancho Jul 2015 #153

More likely, it is something else. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #155

He isn't avoiding gun reform. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #166

You should sign up for his twitter feed. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #178

And yet... Raymond31 Jul 2015 #199

Giving police more power to harass poc's is not going to solve anything. WDIM Jul 2015 #210

I don't think so libodem Jul 2015 #211