2016 Postmortem

Ed Suspicious

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2. You really don't hear how much that sounds like the battle cry of the sell-out? How inspirational.

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:20 AM

Jul 2015

That will GOTV. I got to get all this money or else I won't be able to stop people from giving out all this money. I got to spend all this money else I won't be able to stop people from wanting people to spend all this money.

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The reason why Hillary is accepting(*) SuperPac money is not because she likes Citizens United. [View all] DanTex Jul 2015 OP

That's a good excuse but still she will have to pay back her contributors just like Cleita Jul 2015 #1

It's not an "excuse", it's a reality. If by "pay back" you mean implementing the kinds of DanTex Jul 2015 #4

Exactly, it is what she stands for. I don't give a crap what Soros likes. Cleita Jul 2015 #8

She stands for progressive policies, working Americans, and against Citizens United. DanTex Jul 2015 #17

Bernie isn't even worth half a million dollars. That does not make him wealthy and wealth is Cleita Jul 2015 #20

$460K net worth isn't too shabby, and $175K a year is quite a bit. DanTex Jul 2015 #26

Actually, the only way to break the cycle is to... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #11

Yes, and Bernie will do that. He also will be able to break up the monopolies, which are Cleita Jul 2015 #14

I think you're overstating executive power. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16

Yes, and he will push Congress to write those laws. He will bring the conversation to the Cleita Jul 2015 #18

That is why we have to get Bernie the Congress he needs to fix this corrupt system. Vincardog Jul 2015 #27

You're mixing two issues. George II Jul 2015 #42

Yes? Cleita Jul 2015 #43

What money will she have to pay back to her contributors? George II Jul 2015 #46

That's one issue but not the correct one. Try the word favors instead of money. Cleita Jul 2015 #47

One issue, the OP topic, is Super Pacs, the other that you mention is Hillary contributors. George II Jul 2015 #48

We get the semantic distinction. We're not new here. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #49

You should be telling that to the person I responded to, the one who asked the question. George II Jul 2015 #50

You really don't hear how much that sounds like the battle cry of the sell-out? How inspirational. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #2

It sounds like a way to win the election, rather than lose and then blame the system. DanTex Jul 2015 #5

Just one more hit, cries the junkie. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #3

the problem is that she will have no credibility in attacking the Koch brothers..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #6

This is true, in part at least. DanTex Jul 2015 #10

I don't see it a mere issue of perception virtualobserver Jul 2015 #23

Of course she will...Koch policies are heinous and regressive to the 99% Sheepshank Jul 2015 #12

She will already be making that argument against the Republican candidate virtualobserver Jul 2015 #22

K & R Iliyah Jul 2015 #7

Bernie Sanders has said that one of his priority in office is to overturn Citizens United Cleita Jul 2015 #21

President Obama was forced to use Superpac money in 2012 Gothmog Jul 2015 #9

A power no government can supress azmom Jul 2015 #13

McGovernment� AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #15

I've seen the exact same reason used for justifying campaign promises someone doesn't intend to keep cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #19

(*) hootinholler Jul 2015 #24

This is true technically, but in practice I'm pretty sure a candidate can somehow indirectly get a DanTex Jul 2015 #29

Not all of them hootinholler Jul 2015 #36

We are not confused. Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #25

If I'm in a race, on a highway with no speed limit, then I'm not going to go 65, even if DanTex Jul 2015 #30

but the winner is just another corporate shill Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #37

I think Hillary is pretty far from a corporate shill. Particularly when it comes to Citizens United DanTex Jul 2015 #41

Very lame analogy. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #45

Tell it to the tortoise. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #51

She's already shown how the money influences her policies ibegurpard Jul 2015 #28

so who will get her attention? Her $pon$or$ or the rest of us? hobbit709 Jul 2015 #31

I don't believe her for a second. Fearless Jul 2015 #32

Not another sports analogy, I hate sports analogies artislife Jul 2015 #33

Bernie could always run for PM of Canada. Or Senator from Vermont. DanTex Jul 2015 #34

But he is running. artislife Jul 2015 #35

Beholden to monied interests either way. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #38

The average voter could give a shit about superpacs bigdarryl Jul 2015 #39

Even Bernie Sanders has a Super PAC soliciting contributions for him. George II Jul 2015 #40

Bernie has rejected money from billionaires and doesn't want any super pac from them. Cleita Jul 2015 #53

But there is at least one, maybe more, Super PAC supporting Sanders. George II Jul 2015 #54

There are a number of pro-Bernie Super PACs too BainsBane Jul 2015 #44

According to Open Secrets Bernie made a whole $46,207 in PAC money in 2013/14 Cleita Jul 2015 #52

Super PAC contributions aren't included on a candidate's "opensecrets" page. George II Jul 2015 #57

I think I put up that it was 2014. Cleita Jul 2015 #58

Look at this Opensecrets page for Sanders: George II Jul 2015 #59

All those billionaires! That is what is being claimed. Hardly. Most are labor organizations. Cleita Jul 2015 #60

From whom do those PACs get their funds? George II Jul 2015 #61

From their members, the electricians, steel workers, service workers, teachers, etc. Cleita Jul 2015 #62

"Clinton is not making empty promises about not "taking" money from SuperPACS because it is illegal" George II Jul 2015 #55

Worse than that BainsBane Jul 2015 #56