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marble falls

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57. Did you look here?.....
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:18 AM
Jul 2015
https://berniesanders.com/issues/

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Bernie Sanders attacks Clinton’s climate plan: ‘Not enough’

By Daniel Strauss

7/28/15 5:24 PM EDT
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Sen. Bernie Sanders sees a big gaping hole in Hillary Clinton’s newly released climate-change proposals: the Keystone pipeline.

“It is hard for me to understand how one can be concerned about climate change but not vigorously oppose the Keystone pipeline,” Sanders, who is challenging Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, said in a statement released on Tuesday.

The statement came in response to Clinton being asked during a town-hall event in New Hampshire about her thoughts on the pipeline. Clinton demurred when asked.

“This is President Obama’s decision and I’m not going to second-guess him because I was in a position to set this in motion and I do not think that would be the right thing to do,” Clinton said.

That response and Sanders’ attack came a day after the former secretary of state and Democratic frontrunner unveiled her ambitious set of goals for the environment. Clinton proposed a goal of producing a third of the nation’s electricity from renewable energy from 2027 as well as installing 500 million solar panels by 2020.

That wasn’t enough for Sanders, who said her proposals were a good idea but “not enough.”

“We must make significant reductions in carbon emissions and break our dependency on fossil fuels,” Sanders said. “That is why I have helped lead the fight in the Senate against the Keystone pipeline, which would transport some of the dirtiest fossil fuel in the world.”

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... MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #1
Still nothing: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #2
Besides MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #3
That chart is... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #6
Did you look here?..... marble falls Jul 2015 #57
No "thank you" from the OP? Divernan Jul 2015 #59
Did you check your own link? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #77
How about this from that right wing rag 'Mother Jones': marble falls Jul 2015 #113
So in other words, no detailed plan yet. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #117
No. Just an unequivical record of forty years with no hidden opinions on Keystone unlike another.... marble falls Jul 2015 #118
When the Keystone pipeline is given the okay during the Obama administration, what is going to be Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #102
From your link. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #66
Social awareness RobertEarl Jul 2015 #4
Ain't it wonderful to know in advance that Bernies position will be on side of the working people daybranch Jul 2015 #69
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #75
Social Awarness...OMG that's fantastic Sheepshank Jul 2015 #81
Amazing what you can do with Google Armstead Jul 2015 #5
Great. Those are wonderful votes. But... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #7
Um, if you take their voting record and bills introduced, public statements and other actions... Armstead Jul 2015 #12
Except.... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #13
Well keep looking then...DID YOU EVEN READ THE GODDAMN BILL I POSTED? Armstead Jul 2015 #31
You have to Vote for her to find out what she thinks! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #56
Forget it, it's cleared up: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #80
MotherJones also said Martin O'Malley Is A Longshot Presidential Candidate, and a Real Climate Hawk elleng Jul 2015 #8
True...But the question was about Sanders Armstead Jul 2015 #10
From the link Manny posted above. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #67
Yes. That's why I want to hear a real debate. delrem Jul 2015 #22
YES, it SHOULD, elleng Jul 2015 #24
So what you're saying is Bernie needs Hillary in the Senate LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #9
And if you want to get nerdy.... Armstead Jul 2015 #11
Yeah, but what are his proposals? MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #15
Open a ski area on the Washington mall...he is from Vermont after all Armstead Jul 2015 #32
Apparently, if you read the post... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #107
Did it pass? Historic NY Jul 2015 #19
Is it his fault? NO....And... Armstead Jul 2015 #33
That's, like, totally really real, but can you make any it any realer? Zorra Jul 2015 #42
We'll have a debate after Hillary is elected President Armstead Jul 2015 #52
DOOZY! Divernan Jul 2015 #61
So Bernie is FOR fracking? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #95
He s not FOR fracking Armstead Jul 2015 #98
But in his signature legislation he continues fracking... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #106
So you read it simply with the idea of finding ammo for more empty attacks Armstead Jul 2015 #109
Google is decidedly RW and we are not allowed to reference it~ artislife Jul 2015 #30
Oh yeah that's right. Sorry I forgot the rules of the day (or the hour) of valid information sources Armstead Jul 2015 #34
The rules are "evolving" doncha know? Divernan Jul 2015 #62
So a long list of fails Sheepshank Jul 2015 #82
Yes, Fails by the Congress for ignoring the issue Armstead Jul 2015 #88
it doesn't appear that the "Flavor" of Congress will be changing much for a few cycles Sheepshank Jul 2015 #92
If you want to be defeatist, doesn't bode well for Hillary either Armstead Jul 2015 #96
She knows how to manipulate the system a la Obama Sheepshank Jul 2015 #101
Bernie works the system Armstead Jul 2015 #103
and your opinion is valid Sheepshank Jul 2015 #105
Not trying to sway you Armstead Jul 2015 #108
I'm surprised you don't already know, since you claim to be a Bernie fan. winter is coming Jul 2015 #14
I love Senator Sanders... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16
No you're not. You asked a question and refused to acknowledge the answers Armstead Jul 2015 #35
The problem is that you posted in English....and you know what we think about that... artislife Jul 2015 #37
Sorry i didn't realize English is under the bus now Armstead Jul 2015 #38
Soon double handed typing will also be outlawed... artislife Jul 2015 #39
Do you imagine that people believe you when you make such claims? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #79
Words don't actually count, in some people's games. delrem Jul 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jul 2015 #36
This was one of his big climate efforts, his bill with Barbara Boxer Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #17
Where is the detailed plan? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #18
This is pretty detailed, no? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #21
So what you're saying is that he has no detailed plan? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #23
Here are two links to Bernie Sanders' detailed plans relating to this issue Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #25
I don't think that this person is actually *there*, Cheese Sandwich, delrem Jul 2015 #27
I don't either Aerows Jul 2015 #41
keep posting the links because they educate the rest of us azurnoir Jul 2015 #43
None so deaf as one who won't listen. Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #53
He is a US Senator, he sponsors bills, you can look them up Report1212 Jul 2015 #29
Well I guess his effort failed.....he must try again. Historic NY Jul 2015 #20
He needs more backup. A lot more. delrem Jul 2015 #28
Can anyone tell me exactly what Hillary Clinton's climate change proposals are? Aerows Jul 2015 #40
Yowza Yowza Yowza! Juicy_Bellows Jul 2015 #44
Actually, Hillary has been working nationally AND internationally; Bernie has no experience. Sancho Jul 2015 #46
HRC PUSHED FRACKING ON REST OF WORLD - crap international policy! Divernan Jul 2015 #70
Thank you. rbnyc Jul 2015 #87
Have faith. Your gonna find out what her climate change proposals are Autumn Jul 2015 #76
She already released detailed proposals days ago. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #93
Thanks for the thread, JaneyVee. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #45
Bernie's plan is to talk..."yep, it's hot out there", but even that gets no support! Sancho Jul 2015 #47
You haven't even bothred to read the frickin' thread Armstead Jul 2015 #49
You must not have looked at govtracker or other threads.... Sancho Jul 2015 #63
He has been sayiong the same things because.... Armstead Jul 2015 #71
...and so you don't accept the idea that change will come by election? Sancho Jul 2015 #99
I support all those things....And still believe that elections can matter - potentially Armstead Jul 2015 #100
We'll see...it's fine that there's some interest in changing the system Sancho Jul 2015 #114
plan, schman bigtree Jul 2015 #48
a series of wars in middle east countries. reddread Jul 2015 #50
... winter is coming Jul 2015 #51
It's NOT waffling about Keystone XL or taking Big Oil contributions Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #54
errr...Open Secrets indicates Bernie has received PAC money from energy Sheepshank Jul 2015 #83
links?? Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #86
go to Open Secrets and look it up yourself Sheepshank Jul 2015 #89
I Did...All I could find was some miniscule percentage from the energy industry... Armstead Jul 2015 #97
Purists states Bernie never accepts PAC money..as if Hillary does Sheepshank Jul 2015 #104
With PACS, as with all donations.... Armstead Jul 2015 #110
link or slink Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #115
its supported...look it up on Open Secrets, i'm not you unpaid intern Sheepshank Jul 2015 #116
Speaking of climate change proposals, can anyone tell me how Hillary stands on Keysone.... marble falls Jul 2015 #55
She is FOR BOTH Keystone and Fracking Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #58
I knew that. I was really wondering if the OP knew that marble falls Jul 2015 #64
;~) It's a given Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #68
Bernie likes fracking as well... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #94
Bernie disagrees with you, out of his own mouth: marble falls Jul 2015 #112
Sanders thinks addressing climate change is a foreign policy issue. valerief Jul 2015 #60
As of now, it goes like this. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #65
And you're problem with that is.....? Armstead Jul 2015 #72
You cannot claim I mis characterized him or his supporters in my comment. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #73
My apoligies if I mischaracterized your own comments about supporters Armstead Jul 2015 #74
If the climate is still a problem when he becomes President, he'll give you an answer then. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #78
Another poster had it right: Take all of Bernies talking points for the last 50 Years Sheepshank Jul 2015 #84
I doubt anyone has ever claimed evolving isn't allowed or possible. winter is coming Jul 2015 #85
yup...claim made here on DU all time as a hit against Clinton Sheepshank Jul 2015 #91
Cool story, bro. n/t winter is coming Jul 2015 #111
What does that even mean? Armstead Jul 2015 #90
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