2016 Postmortem

MADem

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116. I am having difficulty with the concept as well. Very well said!

Sat Aug 1, 2015, 08:24 PM

Aug 2015

I notice a great deal of deflection, accusation, mockery, etc. in this thread, but no one is getting to the meat of the matter--this is a libertarian in "liberal Dem" clothing, trying to pretend he's a Bernie supporter to knock out or damage the tougher of two opponents, and drive a wedge between the Democratic electorate.

The Paulbot writer Mr. Goodman's motto should be "Obvious troll is obvious" because he's clearing trolling with this approach. It is sad that people who are so enamored of what he's saying "for now" will allow their integrity on basic issues to be situationally compromised because they think this clown is swiping at Hillary on behalf of "their" guy, not on behalf of "his" guy.

This is classic "makes DU suck" stuff, when anyone gives that kind of junk a pass.

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"Hillary Clinton Has A 'White Liberal' Problem That Will Help Bernie Sanders" [View all] villager Jul 2015 OP

Meh. The "minorities are all about name recognition" meme died several weeks ago. DanTex Jul 2015 #1

You probably wouldn't feel obliged to use terms like "lunatic," if everything was well.... villager Jul 2015 #2

You mean as in "Donald Trump is a lunatic"? You think that spells panic somehow? DanTex Jul 2015 #3

Um, did I post something written by Donald Trump? villager Jul 2015 #4

Did you? I don't know. Not that I know of. DanTex Jul 2015 #7

Exactly. villager Jul 2015 #10

Right on! DanTex Jul 2015 #11

Thanks! villager Jul 2015 #16

Twirling....always Twirling n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #33

Sure seems to be a lot of effort on the part of yourself and others to shitbag a "non-threat" Scootaloo Jul 2015 #6

Yeah, posting on DU, it's hard work... DanTex Jul 2015 #8

Well, more effort goes into making constant OP's shitbagging Sanders, than NOT doing so. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #12

Actually, most of my posts are defending Hillary from lies and smears. DanTex Jul 2015 #54

It's not a coincidence that the guy who wrote it is a Rand Paul fan. MADem Aug 2015 #103

Wow what a come back. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #75

All the name-calling and denigrating belies the "no worries" they stridently insist they have villager Jul 2015 #13

Indeed, it's a waste of precious hours, all for a guy who "can't win" arcane1 Jul 2015 #15

If only they would expend this much effort artislife Jul 2015 #78

I like O'Malley, but you just don't see the fiery rhetoric about that candidate. Could it be his Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #98

"instead of your constant, bug-eyed squealing about sanders" beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #51

They would sing the virtues of Clinton but they know it would be futile. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #53

Hillary 2016----Because you don't want things to change artislife Jul 2015 #79

Before he was a Sanders supporter he was a huge Rand Paul sufrommich Jul 2015 #9

And Hillary was a Goldwater supporter. villager Jul 2015 #14

When she was 17. This guy was supporting Rand Paul sufrommich Jul 2015 #18

So... you're saying people change? villager Jul 2015 #19

I'm saying there's a big difference between what a 17 year old sufrommich Jul 2015 #23

Then again, Hillary supported Eugene McCarthy by '68 evidently villager Jul 2015 #25

Now, now, now my friend... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #41

Well, okay -- you and I, at least, know we can *discuss* these things. villager Jul 2015 #49

She's still buds with Pete Peterson, Henry Kissinger and a bunch of other atrocious people. Scuba Aug 2015 #87

Kissinger helped Nixon destroy Johnson's Peace Plan daybranch Aug 2015 #95

+1 Scuba Aug 2015 #97

And Bill Clinton and George W Bush seem to be best friends jfern Aug 2015 #119

Actually, she was 16 lunamagica Jul 2015 #50

So.. when she changes/refines her positions and opinions now.... villager Jul 2015 #52

I don't know...what about when Bernie does it? lunamagica Jul 2015 #55

In other words, people can change, and their positions can evolve? villager Jul 2015 #59

She was president of college Republicans at Wellesley SwampG8r Jul 2015 #72

Where she gave it up at age 21 to become a Democrat. onehandle Aug 2015 #88

Those roots run deep. That's why she's socially liberal/fiscally conservative. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #99

But not 16 as was claimed SwampG8r Aug 2015 #117

Don't you people ever get tired of repeating that 51 year old story? George II Aug 2015 #89

Good find. So one of the most popular Hillary-bashers on DU is a Paulite. Hmm. DanTex Jul 2015 #17

Has it ever occurred to you to respond to anything *actually in the OP*? villager Jul 2015 #20

H. A. Goodman is a DUer? bunnies Jul 2015 #21

I didn't mean he is a DUer, I meant he is popular on DU, i.e. DUers like him a lot. DanTex Jul 2015 #24

"If Sandra Bland Were a White Woman, Statistics Show She'd Be Alive Today" villager Jul 2015 #26

I agree with that. The Hillary-bashing Paulite stuff, not so much. DanTex Jul 2015 #29

So you agree with the "Paulite," eh? villager Jul 2015 #31

Seems like when he's not talking about presidential candidates, he's not so much of a loon. DanTex Jul 2015 #32

Ah, so you just save the "loon" card for when you *personally* disagree. villager Jul 2015 #34

Anyone who supports Rand Paul has shown pretty serious judgement issues. DanTex Jul 2015 #36

"Why the South Carolina Church Rampage Represents a Terrorist Threat Worse Than ISIS" villager Jul 2015 #38

oh. I see. bunnies Jul 2015 #27

Yeah, probably should have said "among DUers" or something like that. DanTex Jul 2015 #30

They're both Paulites. The spawn of Ron is working out Pappy's revenge for losing the election 2Xs. freshwest Aug 2015 #84

Damn. Just... damn. Number23 Jul 2015 #82

Walks like a Paul, talks like a Paul, acts like a Paul. Yeah, he's got that special fragrance. freshwest Aug 2015 #83

Yes, you are right this post H Goodman,just making things for Sanders lewebley3 Aug 2015 #102

K&R - All it takes is a little perspective 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #5

It should be self evident. Juicy_Bellows Jul 2015 #22

Hell, if they would even just *discuss an OP* -- for once -- that'd be a significant/refreshing villager Jul 2015 #28

That would be nice! Juicy_Bellows Jul 2015 #35

let's not hold our breath, however villager Jul 2015 #37

Haha! Juicy_Bellows Jul 2015 #40

He'll be done soon Tommy2Tone Jul 2015 #39

Brought to you by friends of Rand Paul. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #42

"If Sandra Bland Were a White Woman, Statistics Show She'd Be Alive Today" villager Jul 2015 #43

statistics, my ass heaven05 Jul 2015 #45

So you agree with the thesis. villager Jul 2015 #47

Make it an op. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #86

LOL, what a political circus! On that guffaw, I'll call it a night. Thank, NCT. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #85

in that La. visit heaven05 Jul 2015 #44

Yes, look at just how diverse this pic from Little Rock is. jeff47 Jul 2015 #69

still doesn't matter heaven05 Jul 2015 #71

Yeah, damn bastard fooling us all by talking about it for years. jeff47 Jul 2015 #73

He's still on track, in the real world heaven05 Aug 2015 #91

Hillary's evasiveness, combined with her baggage are weighing her down. jalan48 Jul 2015 #46

You see that same evasiveness in her supporters here. They can answer nothing directly. villager Jul 2015 #48

well, when you have nothing and didn't expect any real challenge ... MisterP Jul 2015 #67

K&R and not just for the article, the shrieking coming from her supporters is hillarious. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #56

You can attack her all you want leftofcool Jul 2015 #60

"Goodness knows there is enough drummed up scandal on DU for you to choose from." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #62

I don't see anyone trying to prevent you from posting anything leftofcool Jul 2015 #77

I don't post "hit pieces" on Dem candidates. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #80

So many of them seem so incapable of responding directly to anything *in an OP* villager Jul 2015 #61

Why aren't they posting positive articles about their candidate? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #63

sanders supporters do the same thing heaven05 Aug 2015 #94

hmmmm really? rtracey Jul 2015 #57

When the "unelectable" excuse goes away, Hillary supporters are going to have to choose their side. fbc Jul 2015 #58

I seriously doubt NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #96

How did Hilary's 3am phone call contain a racist sub message? NobodyHere Jul 2015 #64

Where I am there's a majority of "white liberals" (nothing like "profiling", eh?)...... George II Jul 2015 #65

how's it feel? heaven05 Aug 2015 #93

H. A. Goodman, the guy who wrote that article moobu2 Jul 2015 #66

So by that definition, anyone who writes positively about Hillary is a "propagandist." Right? villager Jul 2015 #74

If all the writer wrote were articles praising Hillary Clinton moobu2 Aug 2015 #90

So we should agree then that such articles by anyone who clearly supports a given candidate... villager Aug 2015 #100

It's a Rovian talking point, that's all. And it's beginning to really harm Hillary whether it is sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #68

you are right heaven05 Aug 2015 #92

Good thing them white libruls are a lazy lot. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #70

K & R L0oniX Jul 2015 #76

Oh, really, Hillary has a white liberal problem, so says H A Goodman, I say she doesn't have a white Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #81

Hillary doesn't have a white liberal problem: She has most of liberal vote now! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #101

Bernie is a non threat. Phlem Aug 2015 #104

Kinda strange, ain't it? The need to attack, attack, attack... villager Aug 2015 #105

It will get worse. Phlem Aug 2015 #108

It would appear they just can't help themselves! villager Aug 2015 #109

Just Giving This A KICK... Posted At Bernie Forum Already! n/t ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #106

Thanks! villager Aug 2015 #107

67 recs for an article written by a RAND PAUL supporter! DU certainly has some interesting MADem Aug 2015 #110

ooooooh what exactly are the implications? Phlem Aug 2015 #111

I hope you got it on your first try....! Because the alternative would require an Orkin man.... MADem Aug 2015 #112

Good luck enforcer! Phlem Aug 2015 #113

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Doesn't fly with me either. DFW Aug 2015 #114

I am having difficulty with the concept as well. Very well said! MADem Aug 2015 #116

Just wondering if this post in particular is hide material. Phlem Aug 2015 #115

Huh.... Crickets Phlem Aug 2015 #118