2016 Postmortem

elleng

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106. Always have been.

Sun Aug 2, 2015, 05:44 PM

Aug 2015

Fighting for Martin O'Malley, a real progressive candidate with proven experience and announced plans.

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As a progressive, I have to wonder if we are now persona non grata when it comes to the [View all] mmonk Aug 2015 OP

This is what I read in another thread. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #1

Well. As we all know, the Democratic Party was once the party that supported slavery�. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #4

Great point! Paka Aug 2015 #25

Yikes! passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #18

Just read that post and hour ago. it was a real face palm moment. then I looked at the profile. 2banon Aug 2015 #120

take over your local organizations ibegurpard Aug 2015 #2

I have been told way too many times Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #3

And I have been told I am basically a Republican... Adrahil Aug 2015 #73

Wondering the same thing, if DU and the posts along racial divides... slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #5

DU is not representative of the Democratic Party (outside of the internet) ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #53

Well, it's been a neat trick, turning the Dems into what used to be the GOP, and the Repubbies into villager Aug 2015 #6

Exactly - This ^^^^ udbcrzy2 Aug 2015 #10

:nods: Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #23

+1 daleanime Aug 2015 #77

The Democratic party is run by corporate paymasters Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #7

True - and more people are wising up to the game, so sometimes things get ugly. polichick Aug 2015 #101

Things are going to get very nasty, I'm afraid Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #102

This!^^^^^^10000! 2banon Aug 2015 #121

Practically everything -- including our imaginations -- has been financialized RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #8

Have been since 1976 or so. MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #9

Manny, when did you join the Democratic Party? LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #12

Uhm kenfrequed Aug 2015 #129

I don't know what you mean by tone. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #138

Well now kenfrequed Aug 2015 #140

Yeah and what's your Party Number. And do you have friends in the Party? If rhett o rick Aug 2015 #113

Have you attended any Democratic Party meetings in your area? LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #11

These are internet whiners, not actual doers ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2015 #22

Yes, getting out and doing the actual work is murielm99 Aug 2015 #34

I saw that "take over the local groups" comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #65

I love that Karl Rove quote you are using in your sigline. Always reminds me sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #80

Just who are you calling "whiners"? It was the Conservatives in our Party that rhett o rick Aug 2015 #114

I did. It was incredibly embarassing. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #40

I posted a comment, a while back ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #59

I've been a precinct officer and a state delegate. mmonk Aug 2015 #84

One reason why your efforts may seem futile at times... LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #142

#RedefineProgressive BainsBane Aug 2015 #13

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How does confronting white entitlement equate with "corporatism" to you? BainsBane Aug 2015 #16

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Upper class people? BainsBane Aug 2015 #19

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I guess he was a troll. Cha Aug 2015 #26

Yes, a recurring one. BainsBane Aug 2015 #28

Oh good.. I was just on his jury. seems fishy even though he denied it. Cha Aug 2015 #31

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I'm not a "progressive" and never have been. I'm a flaming, bleeding heart (called communist 1monster Aug 2015 #27

Good point. And I will try to keep that in mind. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #63

Me too! Hatchling Aug 2015 #98

Pasta sauce? LordshipLadyship Aug 2015 #117

Maybe that's it! I always make my own pasta sauce. 1monster Aug 2015 #118

No problem. mmonk Aug 2015 #133

politics is about coalition building bigtree Aug 2015 #14

This part of what you said passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #21

I'm talking devil's advocate bigtree Aug 2015 #24

I agree with that BainsBane Aug 2015 #35

+1 ... to both of your posts, above. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #66

We are living in an oligarchy now passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #96

You don't build a coalition Aerows Aug 2015 #30

why respond to my statement with an anti-Hillary remark? bigtree Aug 2015 #32

I apologize for the tone Aerows Aug 2015 #100

I have been working on coalition building specifically mmonk Aug 2015 #132

If it's undecided when I become president, I will answer your question Aerows Aug 2015 #29

It is the same stuff really... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #130

This has always been the case. joshcryer Aug 2015 #33

I made that assessment, and left the Party. Maedhros Aug 2015 #36

We have been persona non grata for as long as I can remember dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #37

Well put dream nightwind haikugal Aug 2015 #74

Thank you. Although I agree that we are outright told to leave the party. THIS is not the time. jwirr Aug 2015 #105

Yes, and why not do both? dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #109

Pro choice, more regulated capitalism,... NCTraveler Aug 2015 #38

I wish that were correct. But it's not. Democrats are slightly better...sort of Armstead Aug 2015 #43

Let's take your argument on healthcare. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #67

Here is my problem with the way it shook out Armstead Aug 2015 #71

Well Said Rilgin Aug 2015 #103

I donlt think it will crash Armstead Aug 2015 #108

We do not disagree Rilgin Aug 2015 #112

None of what you states makes it anti-progressive legislation. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #139

It's really not any different. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #39

And unfortunately when things take a dive it is the nature of the voter to throw the baby out with jwirr Aug 2015 #107

It's not new, unfortunately. Just reaching more of a tipping point, I think Armstead Aug 2015 #41

I'm a progressive, and I don't remotely feel like persona non grata. DanTex Aug 2015 #42

You lost me at "hard left purists" Armstead Aug 2015 #45

How else would you describe people who would don't consider Hillary or Obama to be DanTex Aug 2015 #46

In some ways they are -- In some ways they're not Armstead Aug 2015 #49

Well, same goes for anyone. DanTex Aug 2015 #51

You used some selective reading there Armstead Aug 2015 #61

my take TheFarseer Aug 2015 #50

I think social issues are economic issues are both important. DanTex Aug 2015 #54

Obama does support tax cuts for billionaires. TransitJohn Aug 2015 #60

Actually, no, he raised the top tax rate, something the GOP was opposed to. DanTex Aug 2015 #62

So he made permanent the lower rate of Bush tax cuts TransitJohn Aug 2015 #64

Not the top marginal rate (the one rich people pay). DanTex Aug 2015 #94

You don't think $400,000/year is rich? TransitJohn Aug 2015 #111

I'm having a hard time agreeing TheFarseer Aug 2015 #89

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #68

It's a challenge in a system with only two parties Armstead Aug 2015 #72

I'm a democrat in a state where it's not easy to be a democrat TheFarseer Aug 2015 #88

allow me to retweet that... Agony Aug 2015 #87

One isn't progressive if they support War, the Patriot Act, the XL Pipeline, fracking, indefinate rhett o rick Aug 2015 #115

I think the party is simply evolving to survive. DCBob Aug 2015 #44

Those 'compromises" are why "reality" sucks Armstead Aug 2015 #47

'To win we need to make compromises' HFRN Aug 2015 #55

translation 'you can have the social issues, but the rich get all the money' HFRN Aug 2015 #58

Yup. The Third Way is happy to throw a social issue bone our way LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #83

Even when it means the least of these - the poor go on suffering and dying. I do not like jwirr Aug 2015 #110

Survive = hookup with bankers, Wall Street & the military industrial corporations to win elections. L0oniX Aug 2015 #82

As an LGBT activist you sound short sighted and privileged. I mean, mmonk, what do you think your Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #48

But that's just it ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #69

I've marched for LGBT rights. mmonk Aug 2015 #137

i think it's more sucka for granted, than personna non grata nt HFRN Aug 2015 #52

Rahm Emanuel: "Liberals are f&^$ing retarded" tularetom Aug 2015 #56

Progressives haven't been fredamae Aug 2015 #57

I changed my party affiliation earlier this year. When Bernie announced I switched back to Dem Autumn Aug 2015 #70

Well, welcome back, I guess. Adrahil Aug 2015 #75

Oh look. How are you? So nice to see you again. Autumn Aug 2015 #76

We're all persona non grata Hydra Aug 2015 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Aug 2015 #79

I joined the Democratic party in 1960, as a high school kid. MineralMan Aug 2015 #81

Well stated. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #90

Hard truths...sometimes hard to hear Sheepshank Aug 2015 #119

Grotesque amounts of money have poisoned the Democratic Party Agony Aug 2015 #85

ironically/appropriately the division is BETWEEN circular reasoning and pragmatism MisterP Aug 2015 #86

It's a continuation of the Bush/Obama administration mindsets Hydra Aug 2015 #91

that was Orwell's point--that dictatorships are strongest when they're contradicted by the facts MisterP Aug 2015 #92

Ya, Orwell really nailed it Hydra Aug 2015 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #95

Many liberals choose to participate in the Democratic Party DemocraticWing Aug 2015 #97

I think they are really frightened by Bernie. Hatchling Aug 2015 #99

I've allways felt marganalized by the Democratic party olddots Aug 2015 #104

LOL mmonk Aug 2015 #136

Always have been. elleng Aug 2015 #106

I like what Thom Hartmann said. senz Aug 2015 #116

We are split because we have a large oligarchist faction in the party now. Zorra Aug 2015 #122

I got my answer and the assassination of my character. mmonk Aug 2015 #123

They can't assassinate your character. Zorra Aug 2015 #124

You have a way with words. mmonk Aug 2015 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #125

Thom Hartmann just nailed it. Cleita Aug 2015 #126

The frightening thing is I lost quite a bit I had worked on for my disabled children. mmonk Aug 2015 #134

Most of us can't and they don't care. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #141

A wonderful thing happens when you cut ties with the Democratic Party. Maedhros Aug 2015 #128

I've already lost the emotional attachment. mmonk Aug 2015 #135