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Tierra_y_Libertad

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47. Isn't there somebody named Snowden is similar trouble for "mishandling" state secrets?

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:24 PM

Aug 2015

Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. Lord Acton

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Hillary Clinton�s scandal deepens [View all] applegrove Aug 2015 OP

Time to get out in front of this again. applegrove Aug 2015 #1

Bogus, a non-issue, and a waste of DU electrons. And I'm for Bernie. mahina Aug 2015 #14

I'm for Hillary and I want her to get out in front of this. Right away. applegrove Aug 2015 #16

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #65

Thank you. George II Aug 2015 #88

You bet. mahina Aug 2015 #91

Not Looking Good For Team HRC cantbeserious Aug 2015 #2

Thanks for your genuine concern! redstateblues Aug 2015 #4

Good to see you branching out from your redstateblues Aug 2015 #40

Evil Is As Evil Does - To Turn A Phrase cantbeserious Aug 2015 #44

Love it! Now you're getting somewhere! redstateblues Aug 2015 #80

I think his keyboard wore out using those letters over and over and over and over and over again. George II Aug 2015 #90

i could have beefed up my 11 year/ 2000 post showing redstateblues Aug 2015 #97

If the "deity" would have pooh poohed your post 40 oasis Aug 2015 #102

I thought they were classified after the fact? Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #3

No, redacted and classification markings applied after-the-fact. jeff47 Aug 2015 #9

Well then, no scandal. The emails were sent and received without a 'classified' designation. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #86

No, the scandal, such as it is, is not putting that designation on the emails jeff47 Aug 2015 #116

Who is responsible for placing the designation? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #119

Whoever wrote the thing with classified information is responsible for marking it. jeff47 Aug 2015 #121

I've seen you sub-thread discussion with Adrahil ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #124

My own lived experience. jeff47 Aug 2015 #128

Okay. Thanks. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #129

Now we know why kcjohn1 Aug 2015 #5

Hillary is definitely wounded - self-inflicted, as usual - and don't be surprised if Dems are soon considering "ridin with Biden" AND "adorin E. Warren"... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #66

Bernie, Warren, I'm fine either way. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #83

I agree, Biden has more in common w/ Hillary than Bernie or Elizabeth. I'd still take Biden over Hillary if they were my only 2 choices. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #92

I would, too. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #146

...deepens for wingers. uponit7771 Aug 2015 #6

The only "scandal" is no one has horsewhipped the reporter. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #7

Marc Alexander Thiessen DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #8

Oops. But it is out there. Clinton needs to stand up to all accusations. applegrove Aug 2015 #10

She has addressed them...It's up to the voters to decide whether this is disqualifying behavior. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #13

I think she said that they didn't think it would be such a big deal. applegrove Aug 2015 #28

being a dynamic secretary of state is possible with state.gov karynnj Aug 2015 #103

And they will decided when they have heard it on the nightly news for a week. zeemike Aug 2015 #70

Then it is incumbent upon you to find a candidate in the primary and support him or her DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #76

Well I have and am, and it is one without scandals. zeemike Aug 2015 #100

The Clintons have went to battle with the Rethuglicans thirteen times... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #106

And you can't see how people might be getting tired of it? zeemike Aug 2015 #108

My life was good under the Clintons DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #109

Well my life was good under Nixon too but I don't associate him with it. zeemike Aug 2015 #112

President Obama has been a transformational and consequential president. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #114

Well be astounded all you want. zeemike Aug 2015 #115

"But I talk to real people in real life and they don't share your view of things. " DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #117

"You talk to people who look like you and think like you" zeemike Aug 2015 #131

If Los Angeles is a bubble then I live in a bubble. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #133

She has... and check stuff out first... Adrahil Aug 2015 #20

I am a Hillary supporter. I posted this so we flush it out. Because it is out there. applegrove Aug 2015 #26

And it will be. The GOP smear machine is going to keep stuff churning forever. Adrahil Aug 2015 #29

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #67

And it seems to be a cottage industry on DU, as well. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #120

The right and the fringe left hates Hillary and they unite in a unholy alliance against her. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #125

After 7+ years ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #127

Romney's thugs are making the rounds spouting the same bull nonsense. Dawson Leery Aug 2015 #12

Hindsight is better than foresight and in hindsight the private e-mail server wasn't a great idea... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #15

So, they not actually redacting anything? jeff47 Aug 2015 #18

Some things to keep in mind. Adrahil Aug 2015 #24

She isn't responsible for receiving it, but she is responsible for storing it. jeff47 Aug 2015 #30

The storage requirement is only an issue if you KNOW it is classified. Adrahil Aug 2015 #33

No, that just controls the severity of your punishment. jeff47 Aug 2015 #43

You are incorrect on this. Adrahil Aug 2015 #53

Bus listing? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #55

A listing of messages available on a digital data bus. nt Adrahil Aug 2015 #81

No, the difference in our opinions comes from your assumption that she didn't/couldn't know. jeff47 Aug 2015 #57

Surely it was redacted by the folks responsible for Adrahil Aug 2015 #104

Fantastic exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #122

Are you suggesting there were several parties who "show have know(n)" better? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #126

Perhaps I'm coming across too much as saying she must have known. jeff47 Aug 2015 #130

Wrong...the standard is known or should have known info is classified. Hillary, the head of the St Dept, of all people, should know what info is so sensitive as to be considered classified... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #72

Should have known.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #74

Not saying your wrong on all points, and you make some good ones, but if Hillary forwards an email, the burden shifts to her... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #94

This is a self inflicted wound artislife Aug 2015 #78

Yes, if nothin else, it shows EXTREME lack of judgment on Hillary's part. This is precisely why Bernie-who has shown excellent judgment on a whole host of issues-is deservin of serious consideration.. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #96

This gets lost DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #36

I see conservative commentators comparing HRC's actions to Sandy Burger and General Petraeus. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #31

Yes, this case is nothing like those. jeff47 Aug 2015 #37

Yes they are. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #139

Yeah, I was just going to say.. isn't Marc Thiessen one of those gopropagandists writing for Cha Aug 2015 #145

Mark Theisen: RW hack from the Bush empire. GeorgeGist Aug 2015 #11

Thiessen is pre-debunked. I'm not a Clinton supporter, but this is the sort of thing that's enough Aug 2015 #17

This is all such bullshit! yallerdawg Aug 2015 #19

She made the mistake of doing something in the shades of grey. She needs to come out and explain it. applegrove Aug 2015 #23

To half the country she did something wrong just by breathing. We are a divided people. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #60

I just noticed how much her logo looks like Fed Ex... nt ion_theory Aug 2015 #21

Its not a scandal until someone can prove she knew they were classified at the time. DCBob Aug 2015 #22

That would only matter for whether or not she could be punished for it. jeff47 Aug 2015 #32

A scandal requires something to be scandalous. DCBob Aug 2015 #38

Something need not be scandalous to you to be scandalous to others. jeff47 Aug 2015 #41

No doubt the RW media and every Republican will consider it scandalous. DCBob Aug 2015 #42

It is an excellent subject for a 30-second ad. jeff47 Aug 2015 #45

Thank goodness we have folks here on DU on top of this. DCBob Aug 2015 #48

It would be scandalous for a Sec. of State not to know the info she was sending was classified.. raindaddy Aug 2015 #71

There is no hard definition of what is or what is not considered classified. DCBob Aug 2015 #107

When using a private e-mail logic would tell us.... raindaddy Aug 2015 #135

I think that was the whole point of her using private email server. DCBob Aug 2015 #136

You have it completely backwards... raindaddy Aug 2015 #140

I dont think so. DCBob Aug 2015 #143

She should just turn herself in. fbc Aug 2015 #25

d'oh navarth Aug 2015 #75

Like Benghazi, this is another contrived scandal that has no legs, media dead-horse-whipping ... Scuba Aug 2015 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Zorra Aug 2015 #34

Mark Thiessen is the author. Bad source. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #35

HAAA. OhKaaay. "The SSSSSScandal Deeeepens" ohhhh noooos misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #39

this will follow her all the way ibegurpard Aug 2015 #46

Yep. To quote myself from upthread jeff47 Aug 2015 #49

Isn't there somebody named Snowden is similar trouble for "mishandling" state secrets? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #47

No, he "sold" secrets. So he's in a lot more trouble. jeff47 Aug 2015 #51

why do mods allow this kind of shit? ericson00 Aug 2015 #50

the 'scandal' here is using republican operative's bullshit to attack a Democratic candidate bigtree Aug 2015 #52

sometimes its hard to differentiate this place from Drudge ericson00 Aug 2015 #54

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #123

Dem boards are becoming less and less about Dems Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #73

This email stuff is just rightwing "gotcha" crp. But HC doesn't sound Dem anymore... senz Aug 2015 #137

Maybe you are not paying attention Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #142

Maybe not... senz Aug 2015 #149

I am sure the GOP will start the hearings just before the election AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #56

And for all their scandals the Clintons are 11-2 in their battles with the Repugs... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #59

Yes AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #61

Yawn ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #58

This has replaced Benghazi as the Republican's cause celebre. jalan48 Aug 2015 #62

Just another slot on their Wheel Of Outrage. JoePhilly Aug 2015 #105

Drip drip drip artislife Aug 2015 #63

Perfect. senz Aug 2015 #148

Theissen? Really? mcar Aug 2015 #64

She's now been caught in a lie LittleBlue Aug 2015 #68

Where did she lie? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #110

Did you CC this to Red State? Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #69

Trash thread, and trash forum. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #77

So we don't need to discuss GOP tactics? Hillary's weaknesses? applegrove Aug 2015 #79

The permanent headline jberryhill Aug 2015 #82

The real scandal is how many folks have forwarded so many scandals that turned out to be lies. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #84

Marc Thiessen? Really? You might as well quote Rush Limbaugh. thesquanderer Aug 2015 #85

Still at level of tempest in a teapot. Vattel Aug 2015 #87

Thiessen Jeb Bartlet Aug 2015 #89

Screw the appologist! She is A liar. EOM Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #93

K & R marble falls Aug 2015 #95

Ben Gazzara!! redstateblues Aug 2015 #98

Vince Foster!! Whitewater!! Rose Law Firm!! redstateblues Aug 2015 #99

I do not know about you all, the only viable person for President is Mrs. Clinton. Bernie Sanders is akbacchus_BC Aug 2015 #101

When you start posting hit pieces from a well know Conservative hack One of the 99 Aug 2015 #111

You don't think we should be discussing what is out there? applegrove Aug 2015 #134

Please you're not looking for a discussion. One of the 99 Aug 2015 #141

I'm a Hillary supporter and I am looking to get out there applegrove Aug 2015 #144

Hachet job by a hack kenfrequed Aug 2015 #113

This is an opinion piece from the same guy who wrote speeches for George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld moobu2 Aug 2015 #118

It is funny how this stuff is NOW classified but wasn't when it was sent liberal N proud Aug 2015 #132

I don't care about Hillary's emails. senz Aug 2015 #138

Pretty much this. nt artislife Aug 2015 #147