2016 Postmortem

Blue_Adept

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50. Thanks! Some important context!

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 03:50 PM

Aug 2015

Most of those running now didn't get in formally until after April of this year, right?

Chaffee on June 3

Hilary on April 12

Martin on May 30

Bernie on April 30

Webb on July 2nd

So how in the hell could we have had any debates earlier?

The only announced candidate in April was Hillary and Bernie. And even if you wanted it to be at least three people, you'd have to wait until the May 30th announcement. And how many candidates announce and go right into a debate?

Folks are making some interesting comparisons to 2007, but the cycle is VERY different in terms of who has announced and when.

Then DNC can't make a debate schedule without candidates formally in the running!

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So--how many debates had we ALREADY HAD by this time in the 2007-2008 cycle? [View all] eridani Aug 2015 OP

. stonecutter357 Aug 2015 #1

There should be more Democratic debates. But, they should start after the 2nd Republican one. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #54

The number of debates proved to be unessessery. Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #2

You mean that Sanders and O'Malley are just going to agree with her on everything this time? eridani Aug 2015 #3

I cannot see into the future, but my guess would be Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #6

Bank regulation? TPP? Keystone XL? Welfare deform? All for $15.hr minimum wage? n/t eridani Aug 2015 #7

Good luck arguing facts. Fearless Aug 2015 #12

In 2008 the Democrats captured the Presidency, House and Senate, PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #5

Really, debates are meaningless? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #9

So now we are ignoring the power of social media? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #15

I am not ignoring the power of social media at all Live and Learn Aug 2015 #36

Yes. Everyone here arguing for more debates... Adrahil Aug 2015 #18

How do you feel about the exclusivity rule that we have NEVER used in our party before? Shouldn't jwirr Aug 2015 #23

+1. Lift the exclusivity rule. If folks outside the DNC want to sponsor debates, they winter is coming Aug 2015 #29

I oppose the exclusivity rule. It's silly. nt Adrahil Aug 2015 #38

Thank you. That is how I feel also. jwirr Aug 2015 #40

Perhaps some of the people talking about the lack of Democratic debates.... daleanime Aug 2015 #31

6 isn't enough for that? nt Adrahil Aug 2015 #39

We should be at least matching the republicans..... daleanime Aug 2015 #44

I don't agree. Adrahil Aug 2015 #75

Debates are so meaningless, the DNC needs to control all of them. winter is coming Aug 2015 #30

Great point. jwirr Aug 2015 #34

Besides, the academic research suggests the number of debates is (relatively) unimportant ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #14

I believe you thought that point to be true artislife Aug 2015 #25

Do you really think debates . . 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #32

Yes, I believe they can. artislife Aug 2015 #35

Absolutely...An they shape prceptions of candidates for bettr or worse Armstead Aug 2015 #70

The research makes sense. GitRDun Aug 2015 #37

This is not about "strategy" against the GOP Armstead Aug 2015 #43

Be honest .... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #71

I don't matter but.... Armstead Aug 2015 #73

"Unnecessary" isn't a valid argument for the exclusivity clause. winter is coming Aug 2015 #22

Hillary Clinton's campain is satisfied with the number of debates, delrem Aug 2015 #4

LOL. Excellent explanation of what the DNC is doing for Hillary. Screw the rest of us. We get it. jwirr Aug 2015 #24

Bernie has changed the game, and they don't want him to play, Zorra Aug 2015 #8

+1 nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #10

Bingo! Scuba Aug 2015 #11

+2 Fearless Aug 2015 #13

That would be my thought..... daleanime Aug 2015 #17

Exactly. He talks issue - she cannot talk issues without either losing our votes or losing her jwirr Aug 2015 #27

Zorra is right on the money olddots Aug 2015 #33

Do you want people talking about Democratic values.... daleanime Aug 2015 #16

But that's the process that led to Hillary losing and a Democrat being elected president... Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #19

That's when we were fools wandering aimlessly in the desert whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #20

Bernie isn't with the corporate program AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #21

How many candidates did we have in April 07 and April 15? Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #26

IF the is the case what are we waiting for NOW? We have 5 declared candidates. And it is August. jwirr Aug 2015 #28

That doesn't answer my question Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #48

I do not know the answer and it does not matter. What matters is NOW. jwirr Aug 2015 #52

If only now matters, why keep bringing up 2007? Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #56

I don't. jwirr Aug 2015 #58

No then it should be EASIERR to have more debates Armstead Aug 2015 #42

That doesn't answer my question Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #49

There were eight candidates in the early debates Orangepeel Aug 2015 #46

Thanks! Some important context! Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #50

What's changed? Hillary lost after having more debates last time. Can't make that mistake again. Armstead Aug 2015 #41

Reality changed Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #51

The number of candidates has little to do with organizing an event unless of course you have 17 jwirr Aug 2015 #53

say what? How can you hold a debate in April when there are NO announced candidates? Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #55

If you have not noticed it is August 2015 and we have 5 candidates. Who cares about then? jwirr Aug 2015 #57

There are four candidates at the momemt Armstead Aug 2015 #60

5 Candidates... Agschmid Aug 2015 #66

You're right...I forgot Chaffee. All the more reasonn to have debates sooner Armstead Aug 2015 #67

Well then I say what's holding you back? Agschmid Aug 2015 #68

The absolute best way to ensure a GOP victory.... Armstead Aug 2015 #69

And how many people decided on a candidate based on debates this early? brooklynite Aug 2015 #45

Campaigns are a long process of perceptions Armstead Aug 2015 #61

this is the newest meme restorefreedom Aug 2015 #47

Some people have the intellectual honesty of Joe isuzu Armstead Aug 2015 #62

i miss joe! restorefreedom Aug 2015 #72

That was then and now we are in 2015. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #59

I suppose we have changed our political systyem since then? Armstead Aug 2015 #63

If you have a better plan and on the planning committee then go for it. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #65

Which is different how? whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #64

How many candidates were there in 2007 and how many of those "debates" were truly debates? George II Aug 2015 #74