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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
68. I wasn't saying it was "their fault"...I don't use rhetoric like that and you know it.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:28 PM
Aug 2015

HRC is in the discussion because, as it happens, she gets most of the AA support at the moment. She's done nothing that I can see to deserve it(she never fought for AA issues as First Lady and has always been a "tough on crime"-why do three or four little speeches about racism since January make up for years of indifference?) but currently gets it. Fine. I accept that. It doesn't prove Bernie's campaign is illegitimate and shouldn't be happening, and it doesn't prove Bernie deservs AA hostility.

What a lot of us have reacted to is that Bernie has been the victim of an orchestrated smear on race(even over the racial composition of the crowd at his campaign kickoff, something that was totally irrelevant and happenstance)...he has never had a single blemish on his record of fighting bigotry, has always opposed police violence and all forms of institutional racism, and never done anything to deserve being singled out for attack and pressure on racial issues.

And we are also reacting to what looks like an undeserved blm vendetta against Bernie...and what looks like a belief on their part that the success of the anti-racist agenda depends somehow on Bernie being driven out of the race-never mind that a Democratic presidential race without Bernie would only be something that rich white men could benefit from.

It's not as if AA interests are ever actually served by the less-progressive candidate beating the more progressive one in the Democratic primary.

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This is simply, amazing. nt onehandle Aug 2015 #1
HRC and OM supporters are loving this. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #109
I am an O'Malley supporter. Care to explain why -I- am loving this? KittyWampus Aug 2015 #125
Because hurting Bernie may help OM if Bernie drops and voters go to him instead of Hillary. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #126
That is sick. And totally untrue. But it highlights your own mindset. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #130
BLM seems to be waging a "war"? Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #2
No I don't think it's war...but confusion The empressof all Aug 2015 #3
+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #5
revolution is like that bigtree Aug 2015 #13
Then why demand nothing of the current POTUS, AG, or the jeff47 Aug 2015 #25
good question Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #27
I haven't seen anyone attempt to answer THAT question at ALL. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #35
I know Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #39
They say security is tighter around the pres. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #76
Even holding signs by the side of the road would show consistency. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #79
That, my friend, is the 64 Bazillion Dollar question. kath Aug 2015 #85
Correct. Another OP focuses on this- work through the Pres. and DOJ AG First- appalachiablue Aug 2015 #120
actually it appears it's all out war ibegurpard Aug 2015 #4
LOL! "lily-white liberal population" Freelancer Aug 2015 #31
Seattle is an overwhelmingly white city ibegurpard Aug 2015 #40
Not freaked, just amused by your casual label throwing. Do you talk about POC that way? Freelancer Aug 2015 #82
Seattle is a city comprised mainly ibegurpard Aug 2015 #92
Why isn't using the term "lily-white liberal" offensive to you? That's what I wonder - nt Freelancer Aug 2015 #94
Because I'm a lily-white liberal ibegurpard Aug 2015 #98
Bernie is not running a whites-only campaign. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #51
I'm fully aware of that ibegurpard Aug 2015 #55
Lol! whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #6
I don't think it's fair to impugn the entire movement with the ill-considered actions winter is coming Aug 2015 #9
Crazy-ass double standard on DU whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #14
Yup. People have fallen down the rabbit Hole. Too many GMOs and pollution. glinda Aug 2015 #29
LOL I think you nailed it. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #61
Or just ignore the temper tantrum throwing children. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #7
So now it is all-out hyperbolic straw-men against Sanders' supporters? n/t & good night. djean111 Aug 2015 #8
read many of the comments here bigtree Aug 2015 #18
not at all. most Sanders supporters support blm cali Aug 2015 #10
Surely you've noticed by now that some DUers are all-or-nothing thinkers. winter is coming Aug 2015 #11
like the ones who think it's all a Clinton plot JI7 Aug 2015 #20
you must be reading the same comments I am bigtree Aug 2015 #19
Stop stirring the pot, please artislife Aug 2015 #12
you think recommending support and assistance to BLM is 'stirring the pot?' bigtree Aug 2015 #21
Yes, stirring the pot is what I see also. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2015 #42
LOL.nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #59
Smells like shit-stirring. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #78
From this poster?! kath Aug 2015 #86
Seems like you have a good sense of smell.nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #124
Oh, you've upset the bernies.. :( they don't like that. Cha Aug 2015 #88
The title is . artislife Aug 2015 #89
We are angry because no one is being targeted but him marlakay Aug 2015 #15
Calling white democrats "Liberal White Supremacists" is not something I appreciate or support. Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #16
What could be more productive ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #17
It would take someone of strong character whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #24
BS has had very low ratings ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #37
I guess not. whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #41
No other candidate is better on anti-racism issues. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #46
That's sad, Nance. tblue Aug 2015 #38
I agree, it is a mess. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #48
Keep pushing! You'll get thst meme up the hill yet. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #80
Bernie has declared his support, over and over again, for everything AA's want. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #49
Then why isn't he polling ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #53
I wasn't saying it was "their fault"...I don't use rhetoric like that and you know it. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #68
You don't use rhetoric like that? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #69
My only objection has been about the false accusations that Bernie doesn't care about racism. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #75
because the black neolib establishment is lying to them about Bernies record and Hillarys. betterdemsonly Aug 2015 #95
That is one of the most ridiculous ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #117
Some of the pretzel logic I see here is truly astounding! zappaman Aug 2015 #121
I know, right? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #122
What a ridiculous post. Gibberish. redstateblues Aug 2015 #128
Here they go again... Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #74
It would be very easy for them to appear to be sincere. jeff47 Aug 2015 #22
AMEN. Time for BLM to call Hillary to account. John Poet Aug 2015 #81
Respect is a two way street- All I see from BLM is total disrespect toward people..... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #23
That hashtag is downright derogatory. glinda Aug 2015 #33
it is demeaning virtualobserver Aug 2015 #36
It is aggressive and mean actually. Not the kind a professional organization glinda Aug 2015 #52
they just want to let their anger out on someone virtualobserver Aug 2015 #58
No, and I don't really appreciate that accusation. LWolf Aug 2015 #26
It's not war, they just outed themselves and will be dismissed from now on Hydra Aug 2015 #28
Actually, it's the other way around. BLM is the one causing all the disruption. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2015 #30
Thank you. Bernie has never done anything to blm...why do they go after him and only him? Ken Burch Aug 2015 #44
Seems the other way around: An all-out war against Sanders by BLM. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #32
I am coming to the opinion that I should trash all BLM threads. Some call any information Vincardog Aug 2015 #47
I think these tactics and the people that support them are Live and Learn Aug 2015 #34
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Aug 2015 #45
Bernie did that at Netroots. He's met with them. Why isn't that enough? Ken Burch Aug 2015 #43
My guess is disruptive BLMSeattle is a false flag operation ... philly_bob Aug 2015 #50
Check out their facebooks. Its not. Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #54
Then the real blm seattle needs to out the fake... peacebird Aug 2015 #57
I completely agree. philly_bob Aug 2015 #63
The page may be new, but if they're fakes they've been faking for months JHB Aug 2015 #91
Thank you for the video. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #101
heehee! Clinton and O'Malley are going to drop in the polls again this week, Zorra Aug 2015 #56
Straw man arguments have been faring poorly of late Babel_17 Aug 2015 #60
Interesting you frame this as a war. By doing so one might think you snagglepuss Aug 2015 #62
Hmmm. You're right. That is interesting, isn't it? GoneFishin Aug 2015 #66
Bigtree Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #64
Of course that's what OM HRC supporters would like to be true. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #65
I'm not a Sanders supporter, but BLM is run by a bunch of politically clueless clowns. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #67
BLM doesn't seem to want the support of white progressives Dems to Win Aug 2015 #70
so you're blaming Sanders and his supporters for tonight's attack Doctor_J Aug 2015 #71
Gee, thank you for your "advice." NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #72
Calling the crowd white racist supremacists was way over the top. winter is coming Aug 2015 #73
Who is BLM? SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #77
BLM -- You know -- Bernard Levy Madoff (said facetiously) - nt Freelancer Aug 2015 #83
Meet their enemy. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #84
This is great artislife Aug 2015 #93
I believe that Johnson is a sincere BLM activist, but she also out to hurt white liberals aikoaiko Aug 2015 #110
Bow down? artislife Aug 2015 #111
I suspect nothing Bernie says will get BLM off his case because he is a "white liberal supremacist" aikoaiko Aug 2015 #112
It isn't about Bernie artislife Aug 2015 #114
It appears to me that it is with their recent rhetoric and action. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #115
Yes, that is a possibility artislife Aug 2015 #116
"This Will Keep Happening Until Bernie Sanders Learns" Good report on your candidate, bigtree.. Cha Aug 2015 #87
You mean until he bows down to disrupters. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #106
What? JackInGreen Aug 2015 #90
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #96
It would appear so. Apparently this man who's been in Congress since the dawn of time is more Number23 Aug 2015 #97
"They" being white liberals in general whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #102
You and the Hillary Clinton supporters want to broad brush every Sanders supporter davidpdx Aug 2015 #99
There's no war against Blm... MellowDem Aug 2015 #100
Here at home, I have been fighting for social justice. I have been marching. mmonk Aug 2015 #103
No, it's not all-out war, although some would sure like to paint it that way. winter is coming Aug 2015 #104
The emperor has no clothes. Since when did being liberal mean switching off our brains LittleBlue Aug 2015 #105
There are those of us who support the general concept mythology Aug 2015 #107
For some of them yes. Lancero Aug 2015 #108
they can piss off after #bowdownbernie.. frylock Aug 2015 #113
Sorry, I don't take advice from those who support centrist candidates. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #118
I'm a Bernie supporter and I think he is probably reaching out to BLM with your CTyankee Aug 2015 #119
Which BLM? ljm2002 Aug 2015 #123
No. There isn't any 'all-out war" against BLM cheapdate Aug 2015 #127
you need to read this site a bit more closely bigtree Aug 2015 #129
Apologies if my tone was too sharp. cheapdate Aug 2015 #131
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