2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Holy, are there people here seriously defending BLM Seattle's actions!?? What's wrong with you? [View all]dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)That is one hell of a rabbit hole you got there, thanks, hadn't seen it.
Not entirely sure what to make of it, still learning and reading.
I don't hang out around Ring of Fire at all, though I often see Pap as a guest on Thom Hartmann's shows. I generally like and respect Pap. I noticed this article wasn't signed by him, it was written by Ring of Fire staff, so I assume that means he endorses its content.
At first I was quite uncomfortable with it, it did feel like a RW-type anti-lesbian perspective. As I dug deeper and read some more background material, I started to see more how it is actually a large part of their perspective, which looks to me to be very militant and nihilist.
I still have a lot to learn about it, but so far it looks like they don't have the slightest bit of respect for me, for any issues I care about other than the lives of POC, for my candidate, my race, or my gender, though their disruption is benefitting a lily-white corporatist who likes welfare reform, militarism, takes money from private prison donors, and never met a rich person she didn't like. Hard for me to like someone like this BLM woman, or to view them as an ally, and they make it very clear they aren't my ally, at all.
They seem to feel that any rising up against the man has to be led by them, not by some old white Jewish guy. So they'd be quite happy to sabotage his campaign. I think we're getting to an understanding. To hell with that, and with them. For them, it's "all about me". Black lives matter, but BLM doesn't.
I will stay open to new information, just learning about this now, but at this point that is where I'm at with it all.