2016 Postmortem

LiberalLovinLug

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64. My gawd that's a stretch

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:12 PM

Aug 2015

So let me get this straight. If Bernie likes how some other country is handling some particular sector of the economy, because it makes sense both financially and socially, he better damn make sure its a country that has the same (or greater) black demographic as the US in order to not be a racist. Gee, I hope he doesn't start praising Canada's healthcare system...I mean that's for a population that is only 2.5% self-identified as black. That cannot work in the US where it is at 13%!

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Demanding a higher standard from Sanders [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

the problem is Bernie's consistency virtualobserver Aug 2015 #1

please elaborate. i have no idea what you are try to say. cali Aug 2015 #4

consistency in the most positive way....sorry if I didn't make that clear virtualobserver Aug 2015 #5

ah, thanks for the clarification cali Aug 2015 #6

condensing his stellar 53 year record to "He marched with Martin, so what?" virtualobserver Aug 2015 #30

Right off the bat some feel compelled to go for the big lie Babel_17 Aug 2015 #98

"the fierce urgency of now" is definitely why he is running virtualobserver Aug 2015 #104

There are VERY FEW things Bernie Sanders can be 'Marginalized' over. Hence, the fabrication. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #2

Yeah, when one of the early ploys was the guy's hairstyle, you knew there winter is coming Aug 2015 #11

Yikes! Bubzer Aug 2015 #55

Thank you. nt djean111 Aug 2015 #3

Moving of the goalposts! SoapBox Aug 2015 #7

It's a conservative and right leaning trait JackInGreen Aug 2015 #8

To succeed, he will need to do better, to be better procon Aug 2015 #9

lol. cali Aug 2015 #15

much of what that poster said is true because bernie does not have the 1%ers behind him questionseverything Aug 2015 #112

Bernie has not been complacent. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #26

Yes, he has been, but the good news is that he's changing. procon Aug 2015 #47

Obviously I disagree or I would not have written my post. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #61

I think many of us assumed all along he was going to do that Babel_17 Aug 2015 #99

Bernie gets it but has not handled it well up to this point GitRDun Aug 2015 #10

I suspect he will never be good enough for some people. zeemike Aug 2015 #12

If that's the case, that is sad. GitRDun Aug 2015 #33

Well what I think is sad that it IS a game. zeemike Aug 2015 #43

baloney. since NN he's handled it well. cali Aug 2015 #14

At least baloney is a nicer word. GitRDun Aug 2015 #29

hahaha. could be better. love your double standard. it couldn't be more blatant. cali Aug 2015 #37

Exactly the kind of rude response I would expect GitRDun Aug 2015 #58

No, he really didn't. procon Aug 2015 #35

holy shit. And what bullshit. he handled it with dignity and compassion cali Aug 2015 #54

He should have stayed too GitRDun Aug 2015 #60

He was on a schedule and had to leave to speak at an actual campaign event that day. arcane1 Aug 2015 #67

That's just an excuse, and a bad one. GitRDun Aug 2015 #76

That's just more made-up bullshit, devised as circumstances warrant. arcane1 Aug 2015 #80

Thank you again for the anger and swearing GitRDun Aug 2015 #86

No anger here, just amused at how far people will stretch to invent criticism arcane1 Aug 2015 #88

Oh I'm sorry GitRDun Aug 2015 #94

Well, at least you have proven my point. arcane1 Aug 2015 #97

No, it became clear that it was an exercise in denying him the stage Babel_17 Aug 2015 #103

The Bernie pile on GitRDun Aug 2015 #107

The standard is that Sanders loses points for being less than perfect Babel_17 Aug 2015 #101

My point exactly GitRDun Aug 2015 #59

He should've complied with their demands, bowed down, and licked their boots frylock Aug 2015 #75

Who said he has to do those things? Not me. GitRDun Aug 2015 #77

#bowdownbernie frylock Aug 2015 #79

Why would I care about that? GitRDun Aug 2015 #81

Senator Sanders was committed to a previous engagement.. frylock Aug 2015 #82

But, but, but he failed to "project strength"!!1 arcane1 Aug 2015 #83

Laugh if you like GitRDun Aug 2015 #89

People will definitely be exploited. You got that part right. arcane1 Aug 2015 #91

Over confidence is a killer GitRDun Aug 2015 #95

You should know. arcane1 Aug 2015 #96

Pot calling the kettle black GitRDun Aug 2015 #100

No, they would have had the Secret Service "escort" BLM the hell out. n/t BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #85

And maybe zap them with a taser in the process. arcane1 Aug 2015 #90

Thanks for the heads up! BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #92

Bernie has become the symbol of white liberalism, particularly the emphasis on economic DanTex Aug 2015 #13

Social Liberals Fiscal Conservative Roy Ellefson Aug 2015 #17

The Democratic Party is about both social and economic liberalism. DanTex Aug 2015 #18

Yeah, kenfrequed Aug 2015 #24

+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #50

You're too kind. They're flat-out lying about his record, and the content of his speeches. arcane1 Aug 2015 #69

It's been about neo-liberalism in policy and rhetoric Armstead Aug 2015 #25

In the 90s, arguably, but obviously not anymore. DanTex Aug 2015 #27

Mild corse corrections compared to the bigger picture Armstead Aug 2015 #36

I would say that the Clinton policies you listed are the "mild course corrections," not Obama's. DanTex Aug 2015 #53

Ad I said, those economic Neo Liberal issues are debatable -- and should be Armstead Aug 2015 #62

Yes, they are. DanTex Aug 2015 #66

Thank you Armstead Aug 2015 #70

Thank you as well. I also get caught up on the back-and-forth. DanTex Aug 2015 #78

Unfairness in the Economic system directly effects the Social system LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #44

And BOTH are KEY ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #42

A candidate isn't allowed to focus on anything? kenfrequed Aug 2015 #19

A candidate can focus on anything he/she wants. And other people who don't agree with that focus DanTex Aug 2015 #20

Hmmph kenfrequed Aug 2015 #21

I am interested. What that I wrote do you disagree with? DanTex Aug 2015 #22

gotta love the Clinton people ibegurpard Aug 2015 #28

Whether white progressives decide to take racial injustice more seriously is not up to me. DanTex Aug 2015 #31

Has Gillibrand announced? staggerleem Aug 2015 #46

Don't trust any poll from the IMGUR site, without a source link. nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #63

2008 all over again. ieoeja Aug 2015 #16

On this specific issue, everyone seems to have forgotten ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #52

Obama spoke out in support of gay marriage before the SCOTUS ruling. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #84

Yes, Obama did voice support before the SCOTUS ruling. staggerleem Aug 2015 #114

He could have said he disagreed with the vice president. A more cowardly president might have. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #115

My point was ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #119

Was Biden speaking on behalf of the administration? Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #120

Same old same old Old Codger Aug 2015 #23

Bernie doesn't get it. Indydem Aug 2015 #32

Good point, but at least Bernie is trying Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #34

He wants America to look like Scandinavia frylock Aug 2015 #38

Oh, I'm sorry - is quoting Bernie now an offense too? Indydem Aug 2015 #39

he wants America's economy to be modeled after countries like Scandinavia ffs frylock Aug 2015 #40

No. But his policies work better when the group is homogenous. Indydem Aug 2015 #48

Wow do you believe what you write demwing Aug 2015 #71

Another bullshit post.. frylock Aug 2015 #74

Indy... JackInGreen Aug 2015 #87

Sigh...it's sad that you even have to explain it... jonno99 Aug 2015 #51

It's fucking bullshit, and it's a deliberate attempt to cloud the issues frylock Aug 2015 #73

Clouding the issues is the only way to avoid debating them. n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #93

My gawd that's a stretch LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #64

Context matters... Gigabear Aug 2015 #102

No, you don't "get" Bernie Armstead Aug 2015 #41

disgusting to suggest what that post suggests. disturbing to see it here. cali Aug 2015 #57

That's a load of shit. Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #45

He's a Jew who knows first hand the toxic power of racial/ethnic hatred. he grew up in NY cali Aug 2015 #49

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #72

Excellent points. It's laughable to think that Bernie gets yet another pass R B Garr Aug 2015 #105

Accusing a Jewish man of this? Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #113

Holding a higher standard is WHY I'll be voting for Sanders. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #56

K & R historylovr Aug 2015 #65

part of me thinks "OK...LET the bar be set high!" demwing Aug 2015 #68

It's not about standards any more. They're targeting Bernie relentlessly without any regard to Doctor_J Aug 2015 #106

Patience will win out Babel_17 Aug 2015 #108

that is so sad. And ugly. cali Aug 2015 #110

I do think the context makes that video okay MisterP Aug 2015 #109

K & R! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #111

Bernie has a problem.. DCBob Aug 2015 #116

I wouldn't paint someone who grew up in Brooklyn, Oilwellian Aug 2015 #117

Im not saying its legitimate but I think that's the perception of many AA voters. DCBob Aug 2015 #118