2016 Postmortem

passiveporcupine

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150. I really hate to hear this coming from liberals and progressives

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:05 PM

Aug 2015

Yes, I know it's easy to be disgusted with the way some supporters seem intent on destroying progressives and their candidate...but it's just a few people (usually the same few people here) who do this. And some Sander's supporters have invoked the same feeling in Hillary supporters...that even if he wins the primary, they will not vote for him in the General.

The candidate is NOT responsible for their supporters.

Democrats really need to win the whitehouse (and congress) in 2016...it is critical for many reasons, and I will be voting for Hillary (whom I do not like at all) if she wins the primary. Why? In spite of the way some of her supporters behave, I know how much it will hurt this country if we get another republican in office now. Too many things are going backwards already...we don't need to give them more power.

Please reconsider this "emotional" stance and make the mature choice. I'm not saying you are immature...but I think it is too easy to let emotions take over. I can only hope this is just a "vent".

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Holy, are there people here seriously defending BLM Seattle's actions!?? What's wrong with you? [View all] gobears10 Aug 2015 OP

Well done! Thanks...K&R! haikugal Aug 2015 #1

This Needs To Be Read...They Were Paid billhicks76 Aug 2015 #29

All the edibility of right-wingers that use contorted logic to call any liberal or minority brewens Aug 2015 #2

Frankly what they did was sheer stupidity....hurting the one candidate most likely to help them. yourout Aug 2015 #3

Ignorance & Hate are UGLY, and in this case deadly among the lower Middle Class & The Poor. bvar22 Aug 2015 #4

The only people defending it are the usual suspects Hydra Aug 2015 #5

that's why everyone's so suspicious--that we've been hearing this since 2008, MisterP Aug 2015 #8

Meatspace? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #90

It would seem to me that BLM is being used to spread a message that ALL white people are jwirr Aug 2015 #42

Then we need a disavowal of the Seattle chapter's actions Hydra Aug 2015 #45

They were a trolling operation trying to get Bernie to have them arrested. The money Vincardog Aug 2015 #78

if you start there, then you can begin the discussion in earnest Supersedeas Aug 2015 #183

Ignore any asshole boosting BLM Seattle's actions MoveIt Aug 2015 #43

K&R! Well said! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #6

excellent, insightful post cali Aug 2015 #7

BLM Seattle? BLM Portland? MinM Aug 2015 #9

er...yeah Doctor_J Aug 2015 #26

why do they always ask when they know they'll get an answer? in detail MisterP Aug 2015 #27

Thanks for the links... MinM Aug 2015 #37

here is something from Ring of Fire Voice for Peace Aug 2015 #105

Crazy .. we should thank Marissa Janae Johnson. MinM Aug 2015 #179

I'm sure you already know this but there are many more examples. Shameful. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #56

great post. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #10

Come on, people. We've all watched BLM form over the last year . . . brush Aug 2015 #11

Then let BLM repudiate it dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #12

Not buying it? brush Aug 2015 #14

No I am not new to the game dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #18

Like I said . . . brush Aug 2015 #113

So you will assume that these three women represent the nation movement rhett o rick Aug 2015 #158

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #166

+1 nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #96

Here is the answer passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #30

Wow dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #68

Someone who might be a speaker for BLM made a statement Babel_17 Aug 2015 #132

She was the person who disrupted Bernie at Net Roots. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #155

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #165

Wait a minute. You can't come on here stating that BLM is funded by Soros . . . brush Aug 2015 #168

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #169

WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? brush Aug 2015 #170

Yup......please provide links. GP6971 Aug 2015 #172

Shouldn't your response have been to the post that was hidden? brush Aug 2015 #173

What's wrong with supporting a movement to stop police killings? BainsBane Aug 2015 #13

Did you even read the OP? nt Mojorabbit Aug 2015 #19

Sure don't look like it. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #20

But why miss a perfectly good opportunity to grandstand? stranger81 Aug 2015 #24

NO KIDDING. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #80

I will stand with BLM too passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #31

Co-opted by "a woman's movement"? Orangepeel Aug 2015 #86

You'll support them as long as its not your candidate being sandbagged shaayecanaan Aug 2015 #32

The day I put a politician's career above human rights and equality BainsBane Aug 2015 #40

BLM is one group. And it increasingly appears seriously fucked up. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #54

...^ that 840high Aug 2015 #77

Let's see: Bernie Sanders versus a dimwit Palin voter. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #123

Her facebook link said she had a Palin button in high school. R B Garr Aug 2015 #129

And? There's still no compelling reason I should listen to someone with this sort of judgment. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #130

Ah, so picking a party in high school is the new standard, yet Bernie isn't even R B Garr Aug 2015 #134

I'll align myself with the liberal while you work with the Palin groupie. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #137

Ah, but liberals who can actually get elected are even better. R B Garr Aug 2015 #139

Bernie has not switched parties. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #142

So Bernie is an opportunist who is using the Democratic party. R B Garr Aug 2015 #143

AA's have always been welcome in this party by the progressives passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #144

You are denying it is Sander's supporters who are attacking BLM now?? R B Garr Aug 2015 #147

And you are obviously trolling for a fight passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #148

Reality is that it was you who tried to divide the Democratic party R B Garr Aug 2015 #149

Show me where I said "only" passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #151

Here's what you said: "by the progressives" Your quote: R B Garr Aug 2015 #153

Don't waste your time with that one, passiveporcupine. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #157

She might have an agenda that's not really in sync with BLM Babel_17 Aug 2015 #177

Bernie Sanders is opposed to police killings tinrobot Aug 2015 #41

Don't be fooled JackInGreen Aug 2015 #91

The case you make in your posts would be more convincing.... AOR Aug 2015 #81

I don't need to reconcile a thing BainsBane Aug 2015 #109

Of course your voting rights are your own... AOR Aug 2015 #133

When that movement apparently wants to wait at least 16 months to do anything about it. jeff47 Aug 2015 #82

WTF? C Moon Aug 2015 #104

Are you familiar with what happened in Seattle? NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #106

We were all already supporting that movement. Bernie was already supporting it. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #112

Nothing. By your description it is a good thing. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #114

So shocked! MoveIt Aug 2015 #117

The "Bernie Sanders and progressive Democrats are racist" meme began here Zorra Aug 2015 #15

They already did some damage Doctor_J Aug 2015 #17

I really hate to hear this coming from liberals and progressives passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #150

I doubt this is coming from Clinton supporters Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #163

Thanks, good info dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #33

I PM'd the info to you, otherwise it would get hidden. Again. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #47

Me too please Zorra, thanks! haikugal Aug 2015 #127

Organized, dirty politics by the HC crowd left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #79

Nah, probably the GOP. jeff47 Aug 2015 #83

^^^^THIS THIS THIS^^^^ haikugal Aug 2015 #126

You're a busy fellow, aren't you? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #16

per Marissa's facebook page, she supported Sarah Palin and was with the GOP until about a month ago magical thyme Aug 2015 #28

Passive-aggressive isn't an attractive look. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #34

Did you bother to check out her Facebook page? truebrit71 Aug 2015 #35

Do you like the new changes to Bernie's website? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #36

Do you agree with her statement that Bernie and his followers.. truebrit71 Aug 2015 #38

OMG, Bernie is in on this too? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #48

Try answering the question. truebrit71 Aug 2015 #57

Nobody but you is claiming Bernie is allying himself with her dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #59

News flash. I don't care what any of you think of me or what I post. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #61

Bernie didn't respond to the Palin wingnut who screamed and shoved him yesterday. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #65

Awww, c'mere. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #66

"I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack" Who is BLMS's Marissa "Johnson" Jenae? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #69

1+ riversedge Aug 2015 #88

re the walkback, not so fast dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #70

I think they're doubling down on the meme because they're embarrassed. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #74

I think a lot of people shamelessly hoped this "racist" smear would stick for a while arcane1 Aug 2015 #154

Now anyone who criticizes Marissa cares more about Bernie than black lives. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #156

Soros? Surely you mean the Kochs. CJCRANE Aug 2015 #108

I doubt Seattle had anything to do with it but rather the campaign's engagement with these Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #135

You defend this subhuman Republican piece of shit all you want. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #115

NOBODY is "subhuman". winter is coming Aug 2015 #121

Ok DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #122

I think you just got your answer... Bubzer Aug 2015 #89

There's a name for your logical fallacy: Post hoc ergo propter hoc Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #55

You mean the fact that Bernie added a section on racial justice to his website today? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #58

So Bernie added Racial Justice to his website... and you think this is bad? Bubzer Aug 2015 #92

I think it is great! I'm not sure why you thought I thought it was bad. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #95

I think, what you're deriding as conspiracy, others are legimately seeing as a cause for concern Bubzer Aug 2015 #119

When I was 16 my father apologized to me because it was his fault that "your face is so ugly nobody magical thyme Aug 2015 #110

um, what Facebook page? kwassa Aug 2015 #85

several links here AnotherDreamWeaver Aug 2015 #97

links right here: magical thyme Aug 2015 #111

The people behind that ideology considered Jews rats, and a disease. There was a whole Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #21

is there a strangely PALE person in this group? pansypoo53219 Aug 2015 #22

I want to know if some of these BLM protestor are registered to vote K lib Aug 2015 #23

I'd guess many are registered to vote but won't participate in two parties and see Sanders as a lead in Dem Person 2713 Aug 2015 #64

I agree that calling Sanders a white supremacist is idiotic. Vattel Aug 2015 #25

Interesting article on Kos today Major Nikon Aug 2015 #39

Outside Agitators 206 MinM Aug 2015 #60

sponsored by Merck & Co? MinM Aug 2015 #180

OutsideAgitators206 gets more Mercky MinM Aug 2015 #181

black lives matter is right on! captainarizona Aug 2015 #44

Uh, he already was talking about it. jeff47 Aug 2015 #84

The ignorance and stupidity of the voting public at large... ALBliberal Aug 2015 #46

As one who was there, I really feel Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #49

I'm sorry you were called a white supremacist. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #67

Thanks! Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #71

"...making common cause with the Republican caucus." moondust Aug 2015 #50

To start off, the biggest problem is she did NOT call Sanders "a WHITE SUPREMACIST LIBERAL".... George II Aug 2015 #51

K & R AzDar Aug 2015 #52

Kicked! GP6971 Aug 2015 #53

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #62

Mission Accomplished RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #63

which is why it is so hard to attack Republicans... icarusxat Aug 2015 #140

Will you be self deleting this thread? zappaman Aug 2015 #72

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #73

Not suprised there are Marissa Janae Johnson (republicon) lovers on DU. Sad and pathetic. L0oniX Aug 2015 #75

They don't want to argue about Bernie's stance on issues so... jalan48 Aug 2015 #76

We used to ban people who supported Republicans. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #116

I am choosing to believe they are paid disruptors Skittles Aug 2015 #87

I'll say it again. White Supremacists are fundamentalist Christians who consider Cleita Aug 2015 #93

Actually, the Dixiecats weren't "Liberal" in any sense of the word.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #94

right, fair enough... gobears10 Aug 2015 #98

Actually, the Democrats as a whole were popular with the working class in general since FDR.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #101

She was spouting Rush Limbaugh/Hannity/Rove rhetoric which now that we know sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #99

What did she say? George II Aug 2015 #124

"She was spouting Rush Limbaugh/Hannity/Rove rhetoric" George II Aug 2015 #182

Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #100

"conservative regressive" aka reactionary Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #102

K n R! flamingdem Aug 2015 #103

Preach it! NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #107

Well done boatsnhose Aug 2015 #118

The strange thing is that DEMOCRATIC underground seems to be one of the hotbeds Doctor_J Aug 2015 #120

Please don't call her a "terrorist." Maedhros Aug 2015 #125

So it may seem Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #136

Not all that strange, really. It's been a hotbed of support for RW economic terrorists Zorra Aug 2015 #138

"The problem with Sanders’, and with white Seattle progressives in general," KamaAina Aug 2015 #128

likely the only thing I will ever say about this event.... mike_c Aug 2015 #131

Bernie Sanders is politically astute. He can fight his battles. The last time I check we live in a Farmbrook Aug 2015 #141

Doesn't surprise me. DU has always been slow to eject agent provocateurs. robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #145

Cuz this guy is awesome libodem Aug 2015 #146

I don't know what they are HassleCat Aug 2015 #152

So the Bernie PUD's have done nothing but call people names and label them: R B Garr Aug 2015 #159

This POC ... yuiyoshida Aug 2015 #160

Here's a shocker... Raymond82 Aug 2015 #161

These are the actions of a shill, imthevicar Aug 2015 #162

I'll remember that... bobclark86 Aug 2015 #164

It wasn't BLM kenfrequed Aug 2015 #167

It wasn't BLM?! Old Crow Aug 2015 #171

Why do research at all? kenfrequed Aug 2015 #174

Thanks, but I already read that article. Old Crow Aug 2015 #175

Shameful, isn't it? sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #176

Hey gbears10!!! choie Aug 2015 #178

RECREATE 68 MinM Aug 2015 #184

Kick. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #185