2016 Postmortem

NorthCarolina

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192. However, you did not touch on even one actual policy difference with him.

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:35 AM

Aug 2015

How about his position on:

Reinstating Glass Steagall? Is he wrong about that?
How about his position against TPP? Is he in the wrong place with that for a "Democrat"?
How about Medicare for all? Is that a wrong approach for America?
How about curtailing private "for profit" prisons? Is that the wrong direction for a "Democrat"?
Or what about free tuition at state and local colleges? Is that a policy that a tried and true "Democrat" should never support?

I get that you think he's a "loon", and "outside the mainstream", but what I want to know is what SPECIFIC policy stances of his go against that which a "Democrat" should stand for?

Please be specific, and yes I am truly interested in such a perspective because, as a Bernie supporter, I don't understand it. I have been a Democrat since the 60's as well, and Bernie seems much more like the run of the mill Democrat from that era to me than Hillary does.

Our recollections DO differ as you seems to recall the party being far more conservative back then than my memory tells me.

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A Bernie Sanders Shocker Is Coming [View all] NorthCarolina Aug 2015 OP

wow, first in the pool restorefreedom Aug 2015 #1

+1 merrily Aug 2015 #61

And Portland Is A Small City! billhicks76 Aug 2015 #132

ari was filling in for rachel tonight restorefreedom Aug 2015 #133

Everyone I Know Is Talking About Bernie billhicks76 Aug 2015 #135

agreed. bernie is the future restorefreedom Aug 2015 #137

Are there many Hillary supporters left who actually believe in what she says, and trust herP Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #143

yes-- particularly feminists Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #188

Real Feminists billhicks76 Aug 2015 #189

I totally agree. Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #194

This Site Is Full Of Self-Entitled Haters billhicks76 Aug 2015 #195

scary! Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #196

WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER glinda Aug 2015 #138

exactly. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #140

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed, but I also think it's way too early to claim anything is Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #2

Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't plan on taking it easy.... daleanime Aug 2015 #7

Agreed... Volaris Aug 2015 #33

Not to early to enjoy this particular bit of news, though. merrily Aug 2015 #65

TPTB and their M$M propaganda machine easilty derailed Dean's momentum in 2004, so I tblue37 Aug 2015 #75

Yah.... Plucketeer Aug 2015 #128

From "Booman Tribune": tblue37 Aug 2015 #134

Actually, these West Coast rallies were more about strategy than translating into vote.... yet. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #149

I hope he wins. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #157

Oh - I wasn't fussing at you! Fawke Em Aug 2015 #160

Can anyone imagine if the MSM acted excited about Bernie? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #144

The people want Bernie!!! azmom Aug 2015 #3

I think the more people see/hear him and get to know him, or even to learn who he is, RKP5637 Aug 2015 #6

No Doubt kracer20 Aug 2015 #18

...was it retrowire Aug 2015 #19

Said in the voice of Church Lady? nxylas Aug 2015 #42

lmao retrowire Aug 2015 #44

It's sad, isn't it. There is such a media rum dumb in the US. I often hear people RKP5637 Aug 2015 #26

That rum dumb media is keeping the wealthy haters of freedom and liberty in power. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #47

Definitely!!! I do think more and more people are waking up as they feel the effect more and more RKP5637 Aug 2015 #55

They know that social media is making them less relevant, less powerful, and they are PISSED. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #77

^^^this. artislife Aug 2015 #81

Yes. They want to control the message so badly that I fear they will compromise the internet. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #87

yes, the PTB are trying to take back control of the media via the internet Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #90

Since MSNBC took Ed off the air I would not blame all the blockout of Bernie News on Faux. But jwirr Aug 2015 #41

The new media holds hope ... Baadger Aug 2015 #193

Agreed kenfrequed Aug 2015 #123

K&R nt JEB Aug 2015 #4

He's drawing bigger crowds then other Democratic candidates.... daleanime Aug 2015 #5

But Ron Paul and Mondale had crowds TM99 Aug 2015 #9

These crowds are being drawn during a primary, too. razorman Aug 2015 #71

Indeed-- I've never seen anything like what's going on with Sanders-- this early. Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #91

Absolutely. I don't put much stock on poll numbers or any particular razorman Aug 2015 #129

Way, way, way bigger! Divernan Aug 2015 #107

Yup kenfrequed Aug 2015 #130

K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #8

nothing is "in the bag." anything can go awry. it ain't over 'til it's over. magical thyme Aug 2015 #10

Fortunately, that caveat applies also to St. Hillary, The Annointed. Hoppy Aug 2015 #13

Annointed or appointed? Fuddnik Aug 2015 #24

Both. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2015 #59

Brace yourself for more dirty tricks RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #11

And what do you think this costs? Indydem Aug 2015 #12

I've seen the argument made several times that Bernie doesn't have the money to be elected... mak3cats Aug 2015 #15

thank you for your concern... magical thyme Aug 2015 #16

That's what we are here for, to help with those costs. Donations, etc. arcane1 Aug 2015 #21

Lotsa, lotsa small donors like me, making monthly contributions. Divernan Aug 2015 #36

I call bullshit. Indydem Aug 2015 #38

LOL I reworked may budget for Bernie. I like most of what Obama has done but I reserve my jwirr Aug 2015 #48

You are not responding to MY post, in any way shape or form. Divernan Aug 2015 #63

They're on a roll with stupid posts today. Nothing but made-up bullshit and fake smears n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #70

True dat! It's all they've got left. Divernan Aug 2015 #73

Indeed, it's all they ever had n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #74

So let me get this straight: Indydem Aug 2015 #86

You so funny! Like $20 is a quid or a quo! Divernan Aug 2015 #97

You're getting your ass handed to you on a silver platter. Self-deletes would be less embarassing. Scuba Aug 2015 #121

I've rarely heard such cynical talk from a dem. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #147

So are you still a Hillary supporter? Full disclosure and all that. Divernan Aug 2015 #68

I have not decided yet. Indydem Aug 2015 #84

Hah!Dems made him ranking minority member on Senate Budget Committee Divernan Aug 2015 #93

OR, anyone who has read anything about Sanders and his hatred for the Democratic Party. Indydem Aug 2015 #161

Well? Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #202

Because "party over principle" is always a winning choice. arcane1 Aug 2015 #102

You assume I share "principles" with Sanders. Indydem Aug 2015 #151

You haven't decided yet? Ha, that's funny. progressoid Aug 2015 #105

I want Biden to run. Indydem Aug 2015 #152

Aww you and MineralMan We are hemmoraging support here people!!! MoveIt Aug 2015 #136

I am not pretending to not support Clinton. Indydem Aug 2015 #154

If you read DU, and you don't know the difference Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #148

Joe Lieberman caucused with the Democrats. Big whoop. Indydem Aug 2015 #150

You're a real nice person. Thank you for the chat! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #156

You aren't chatting. Indydem Aug 2015 #159

I highly doubt the person you are addressing is even a Democrat davidpdx Aug 2015 #162

You are not qualified to judge me. Indydem Aug 2015 #163

When you smear candidates with the words progressive, socialist, and communist davidpdx Aug 2015 #173

No. Indydem Aug 2015 #174

Progressives, socialists, and even communists CAN be Democrats davidpdx Aug 2015 #175

They absolutely can. Indydem Aug 2015 #176

A Democrat would not use the words socialist, progressive, and communist to smear other members davidpdx Aug 2015 #179

Where did I "smear" them? Indydem Aug 2015 #180

You are the one that made the assertion, it is not my problem you can't prove it davidpdx Aug 2015 #181

No. You are accusing me of a smear. Indydem Aug 2015 #182

I'm done with that one davidpdx Aug 2015 #183

Bye. Indydem Aug 2015 #184

POSUCS???? NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #103

Really? Indydem Aug 2015 #155

I think you meant to say "I spew bullshit". cui bono Aug 2015 #141

Care to elaborate? Indydem Aug 2015 #158

It's 2/3rds of what I get on Social Security Disability. Reminds me of John Edwards and > YOHABLO Aug 2015 #178

Did it ever occur to you that maybe some of those 20,000 (gee it sure is nice typing that number) A Simple Game Aug 2015 #117

What is going to happen when reality strikes and Bernie is just plain out of money? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #146

Maybe you should donate if you are so utterly CONCERNED n/t MoveIt Aug 2015 #164

I only donate to Democrats. Indydem Aug 2015 #165

Ill donate $50 for you then n/t MoveIt Aug 2015 #166

Glad you have $50 to donate. Indydem Aug 2015 #167

I'm sipping on centrist fucking tears as i donate MoveIt Aug 2015 #168

Victory tears? Indydem Aug 2015 #169

Because you care MoveIt Aug 2015 #170

Where are you quoting from? Indydem Aug 2015 #171

You don't know me for shit MoveIt Aug 2015 #172

I am curious NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #190

You are somewhat mistaken. Indydem Aug 2015 #191

However, you did not touch on even one actual policy difference with him. NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #192

Ok, we can go through these. Indydem Aug 2015 #200

Pretty cheap actually Depaysement Aug 2015 #185

Bernie needs protection left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #14

he certainly needs better security at invitational events magical thyme Aug 2015 #17

I doubt that we will ever see any of those antics again. SoapBox Aug 2015 #27

SEA? nt magical thyme Aug 2015 #31

Seattle. n/t bvf Aug 2015 #113

If we do ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #85

There is no organized "Stop Bernie" movement, L. Coyote Aug 2015 #131

Me too. zeemike Aug 2015 #35

Anyone who knows the past is worried for him. jwirr Aug 2015 #50

my worry too Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #92

From rival Democrats even AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #108

There you are again with your fake talking point. No, it wasn't rival Democrats behind this. pnwmom Aug 2015 #145

And he's scaring the hell out of corpratists in BOTH PARTIES! arcane1 Aug 2015 #20

Exactly. When FDR was running the rich thought he was one of them and he would protect them. jwirr Aug 2015 #51

Bernie True Blue American Aug 2015 #22

This is what it looks like Tab Aug 2015 #23

And he's in Los Angeles tonight! SoapBox Aug 2015 #25

Bernie's going to be spending all of his warchest on renting ever bigger spaces out. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #30

That's the kind of problem you like to have Android3.14 Aug 2015 #45

do you know if he's coming to sacramento? shanti Aug 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #28

Now THAT is a real problem. jwirr Aug 2015 #57

This is a benefit for progressive politics in general Politicub Aug 2015 #29

Unfortunately, the media is the #1 recipient of all that Super-PAC cash. arcane1 Aug 2015 #40

And much of that in the primaries. jwirr Aug 2015 #58

The pundits only care about MONEY. They have become convinced DC is for sale. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #32

It pisses me off that this is such a non-story to MSM. lark Aug 2015 #34

They can't use any of his speech because it's all issues.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #54

It's no accident that he's not covered. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #153

Those "really large bribes" are their bread and butter. Bernie's media buy will not enrich their Stardust Aug 2015 #187

The media pretends he doesn't exist. madaboutharry Aug 2015 #37

It came whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #39

This MN voter put that MN voter on ignore. I hope he likes setting around with all those Rs. jwirr Aug 2015 #62

comical really questionseverything Aug 2015 #83

No! I have been told that Bernie's campaign is hanging by a thread! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #43

He simply cannot afford to rent more large venues. Tommymac Aug 2015 #66

The MSM is no longer relevant Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #46

yep-- they are a joke, and I think that was a major legacy of Jon Stewart. Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #95

Expect more dirty tricks against Bernie from the other side(s). Expect them to fail. leveymg Aug 2015 #49

I must be a VERY serious political analyst then, because Summer of Sanders has been in my sig line merrily Aug 2015 #52

I beg you, Bernie, get first rate security hifiguy Aug 2015 #53

Let's not be naive about zentrum Aug 2015 #56

He is building the movement against the corporatists and that movement will be there no matter jwirr Aug 2015 #67

I'm another woman for Bernie! zentrum Aug 2015 #72

Hello. There are actually quite a few of us here. I lke his issues and I trust him with women's jwirr Aug 2015 #78

I'm female atty. & have been a feminist since the Gloria Steinham days. Divernan Aug 2015 #104

Yeah the most positive thing I have heard about her is that Bernie might not win. These are mostly jwirr Aug 2015 #109

his crowds are his ads-- and the best kind Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #94

Agreed! zentrum Aug 2015 #98

The shocker is, Bernie Sanders is proof that people will reach into their own pockets to fund... raindaddy Aug 2015 #60

And if we have to and can no longer afford the venue then we will meet in the fields. We would not jwirr Aug 2015 #69

Something's in the air, people have finally had enough ! raindaddy Aug 2015 #80

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #88

Or you can meet on the banks of rivers... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #106

Even better. jwirr Aug 2015 #110

I don't know if he has the $ or the organizational infrastructure to get elected President tularetom Aug 2015 #64

with his popularity, he will get enough money and media Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #96

HRC brings out the blood lust in the GOP base & it's been building up for decades. Divernan Aug 2015 #101

Yup, I still say she'll never get elected but if I'm wrong tularetom Aug 2015 #116

I give $10 a month n/t PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #76

That is what I do also. And I am lucky enough to be getting my bills paid off in the next months. jwirr Aug 2015 #79

K & R L0oniX Aug 2015 #89

I will continue to say that Sanders won't be the nominee mythology Aug 2015 #99

Many forget that Obama was not polling well with black voters at this point in his campaign Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #111

I think you are out of step. You said, "I haven't yet seen a plan for how he changes that." rhett o rick Aug 2015 #112

Breathtaking increase Depaysement Aug 2015 #100

Time to donate more money passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #114

When Bernie says he is going to do something... indivisibleman Aug 2015 #115

My wife and I were at the moda center last night, still cant wipe the smile off our faces:))) litlbilly Aug 2015 #118

A BIG KICK eom LiberalElite Aug 2015 #119

K & R!!! Thespian2 Aug 2015 #120

It is interesting kenfrequed Aug 2015 #122

It is also "interesting" NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #124

It is strategy kenfrequed Aug 2015 #125

She still often clings to NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #126

Yeah kenfrequed Aug 2015 #127

Yep. LWolf Aug 2015 #201

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #139

He needs for someone to make him a phone app to donate Marrah_G Aug 2015 #142

Just not there MFM008 Aug 2015 #177

Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #186

Is this the coronation of Bernie? Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #197

Perhaps, the difference being that Hillary was coronated by corporate powers and the MSM, NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #198

When did that happen? Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #199