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BillZBubb

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62. Sigh indeed, but for the opposite reason.

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 02:07 PM

Aug 2015

If the goal of BLM is to rally as much white support to their cause as is possible, they would be wise to listen to suggestions from white people on what would be the most effective approach. They don't have to act on those suggestions but just listen. Some of the suggestions could be very helpful.

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Charlie Pierce comments on BLM protest at Bernie's event [View all] bullwinkle428 Aug 2015 OP

The one thing that is giving me a bit of a pause on the Seattle thing is el_bryanto Aug 2015 #1

Never been to Seattle but I bet it is harder to live as a black person TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #10

My impression as a former Seattle resident who recently visited the city.... Armstead Aug 2015 #12

I just made a drive through Houston Saturday TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #14

Alas it's happening everywhere Armstead Aug 2015 #16

Happening big time in Minneapolis. glinda Aug 2015 #32

Resource wars are a very old tool of the 1% even before we called them that. And this makes jwirr Aug 2015 #44

Gentrification is huge artislife Aug 2015 #22

In the northeast too Armstead Aug 2015 #26

I wonder if we could get some sort of socialistic group set up Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #31

Power grabs also as 1% are the only ones who can afford glinda Aug 2015 #33

Even in small town America this is happening. While houses set empty the low-income housing jwirr Aug 2015 #45

Same with JackInGreen Aug 2015 #28

The CD was gentrified decades ago AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #51

Seattle is very white ibegurpard Aug 2015 #15

Sounds like an economic justice issue... whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #27

I know it. I sincerely can't see how the two can be viewed completely seperate. I don't see GoneFishin Aug 2015 #75

It's all relative. el_bryanto Aug 2015 #17

I agree with what you are saying TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #18

My first response artislife Aug 2015 #29

The two women are right wing fundamentalists who have openly stated they sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #35

I don't see why some have a problem understanding this. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #73

It's astounding to me knowing what we now know that there is any question that this sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #74

I think it had more to do with the fact that Marissa is a Sarah Palin fan and former GOP member magical thyme Aug 2015 #40

When I note the similarities between them and the Tea Partiers and suggest we call them Vincardog Aug 2015 #61

Last I heard, Seattle has a city council of elected officials 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #41

Native American groups have been protesting Seattle cops under-the-radar, too villager Aug 2015 #58

Ugh. And I usually like Charlie. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #2

under the bus! cali Aug 2015 #5

Sorry, I'm far too nuanced for that. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #6

my sentiments exactly. mopinko Aug 2015 #8

yeah, Bernie never talked about about criminal justice or racial issues before Seattle aikoaiko Aug 2015 #30

huh? Did you mean to put a sarcasm symbol up? glinda Aug 2015 #34

fixed it for you. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #50

Whew! Makes more sense now! Thanks! glinda Aug 2015 #69

Still not right. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2015 #82

What it accomplished was to nearly destroy support for the Ferguson protesters, it did get attention sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #37

Rightwing agitators? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #48

From fundy to far leftist? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #52

She was a Tea Party TM99 Aug 2015 #53

Bernie's website would have been updated regardless. He didn't suddenly sit down and pull an magical thyme Aug 2015 #42

I'm not so certain this was a bad thing anymore. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #3

Exactly. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #7

"when all you have are lemons make lemonade" The CCC Aug 2015 #20

Brilliant metaphor! (Forgive me, but I plan to borrow it a lot.) nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #24

Well I believe Bernie is bringing the sugar, if BLM brings the water of black lives Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #55

+1,000,000,000 nt magical thyme Aug 2015 #43

Very well said, and I completely agree. TM99 Aug 2015 #4

K&R CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #9

Well this wouldn't be another MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #11

So white people can't criticize anything done by a black person, no matter how crazy nt HomerRamone Aug 2015 #13

Apparently not JackInGreen Aug 2015 #19

I didn't say that so let me think MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #21

As a bullied kid and a gay adult, no I'm not nt HomerRamone Aug 2015 #38

Your logic is very dangerous. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #36

Because us Blacks just LIVES to makes YOU happy, Huh boss? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #59

I didn't say that and I didn't imply that. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #60

Uh ... Yes, you did. but, since you so admire Dr. King 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #66

Jury results: ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #71

Darn it ... Now I'll forever be haunted ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #72

Heh! ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #76

Black folk need pro-tips from white folks, apparently, on how to behave and protest properly! Sigh. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #49

Sigh indeed, but for the opposite reason. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #62

OPINION: I think BLM does not just want "support", they want a passionate ally. Just my two cents worth. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #63

Question: Should the Democratic nominee in 2016 make BLM BillZBubb Aug 2015 #64

Yeah, like that will ever happen in my lifetime. But a predominate theme as an ally would suffice. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #67

apparently that is not their goal. Some just want to throw a hissy fit. bbgrunt Aug 2015 #79

Oh for fuck's sake... Maedhros Aug 2015 #54

As a white person, I have been asking African-Americans on this message board just what JDPriestly Aug 2015 #65

I have asked the same question. Not any real answers yet. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #68

Here is a direct link to the article rather than to a list of political articles in Esquire: tblue37 Aug 2015 #23

K & R!!! Thespian2 Aug 2015 #25

. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #39

I was completely behind BLM's first interruption of Bernie nyabingi Aug 2015 #46

Charles Pierce is also missing the fact the protest against racial injustice brought attention to an Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #47

I agree nyabingi Aug 2015 #56

White militias and white police forces are brothers in arms. "White Like Me" - the mindset of many police and media. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #57

Well, the perpetratress is a republican and a racist, so Doctor_J Aug 2015 #70

K&R Oilwellian Aug 2015 #77

Charlie, I normally like you DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #78

"We're not strong enough to fight the enemy . . . cer7711 Aug 2015 #80

Racism here is a lot like mist rain eridani Aug 2015 #81