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Fred Sanders

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63. OPINION: I think BLM does not just want "support", they want a passionate ally. Just my two cents worth.

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 02:12 PM

Aug 2015

An ally worthy of a reliable 96% Democratic voting bloc 20 million strong.

Not to mention another large minority voting bloc as strong and reliable at 67%, and rising.

(All figures estimated)

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Charlie Pierce comments on BLM protest at Bernie's event [View all] bullwinkle428 Aug 2015 OP

The one thing that is giving me a bit of a pause on the Seattle thing is el_bryanto Aug 2015 #1

Never been to Seattle but I bet it is harder to live as a black person TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #10

My impression as a former Seattle resident who recently visited the city.... Armstead Aug 2015 #12

I just made a drive through Houston Saturday TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #14

Alas it's happening everywhere Armstead Aug 2015 #16

Happening big time in Minneapolis. glinda Aug 2015 #32

Resource wars are a very old tool of the 1% even before we called them that. And this makes jwirr Aug 2015 #44

Gentrification is huge artislife Aug 2015 #22

In the northeast too Armstead Aug 2015 #26

I wonder if we could get some sort of socialistic group set up Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #31

Power grabs also as 1% are the only ones who can afford glinda Aug 2015 #33

Even in small town America this is happening. While houses set empty the low-income housing jwirr Aug 2015 #45

Same with JackInGreen Aug 2015 #28

The CD was gentrified decades ago AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #51

Seattle is very white ibegurpard Aug 2015 #15

Sounds like an economic justice issue... whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #27

I know it. I sincerely can't see how the two can be viewed completely seperate. I don't see GoneFishin Aug 2015 #75

It's all relative. el_bryanto Aug 2015 #17

I agree with what you are saying TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #18

My first response artislife Aug 2015 #29

The two women are right wing fundamentalists who have openly stated they sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #35

I don't see why some have a problem understanding this. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #73

It's astounding to me knowing what we now know that there is any question that this sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #74

I think it had more to do with the fact that Marissa is a Sarah Palin fan and former GOP member magical thyme Aug 2015 #40

When I note the similarities between them and the Tea Partiers and suggest we call them Vincardog Aug 2015 #61

Last I heard, Seattle has a city council of elected officials 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #41

Native American groups have been protesting Seattle cops under-the-radar, too villager Aug 2015 #58

Ugh. And I usually like Charlie. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #2

under the bus! cali Aug 2015 #5

Sorry, I'm far too nuanced for that. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #6

my sentiments exactly. mopinko Aug 2015 #8

yeah, Bernie never talked about about criminal justice or racial issues before Seattle aikoaiko Aug 2015 #30

huh? Did you mean to put a sarcasm symbol up? glinda Aug 2015 #34

fixed it for you. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #50

Whew! Makes more sense now! Thanks! glinda Aug 2015 #69

Still not right. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2015 #82

What it accomplished was to nearly destroy support for the Ferguson protesters, it did get attention sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #37

Rightwing agitators? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #48

From fundy to far leftist? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #52

She was a Tea Party TM99 Aug 2015 #53

Bernie's website would have been updated regardless. He didn't suddenly sit down and pull an magical thyme Aug 2015 #42

I'm not so certain this was a bad thing anymore. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #3

Exactly. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #7

"when all you have are lemons make lemonade" The CCC Aug 2015 #20

Brilliant metaphor! (Forgive me, but I plan to borrow it a lot.) nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #24

Well I believe Bernie is bringing the sugar, if BLM brings the water of black lives Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #55

+1,000,000,000 nt magical thyme Aug 2015 #43

Very well said, and I completely agree. TM99 Aug 2015 #4

K&R CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #9

Well this wouldn't be another MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #11

So white people can't criticize anything done by a black person, no matter how crazy nt HomerRamone Aug 2015 #13

Apparently not JackInGreen Aug 2015 #19

I didn't say that so let me think MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #21

As a bullied kid and a gay adult, no I'm not nt HomerRamone Aug 2015 #38

Your logic is very dangerous. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #36

Because us Blacks just LIVES to makes YOU happy, Huh boss? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #59

I didn't say that and I didn't imply that. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #60

Uh ... Yes, you did. but, since you so admire Dr. King 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #66

Jury results: ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #71

Darn it ... Now I'll forever be haunted ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #72

Heh! ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #76

Black folk need pro-tips from white folks, apparently, on how to behave and protest properly! Sigh. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #49

Sigh indeed, but for the opposite reason. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #62

OPINION: I think BLM does not just want "support", they want a passionate ally. Just my two cents worth. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #63

Question: Should the Democratic nominee in 2016 make BLM BillZBubb Aug 2015 #64

Yeah, like that will ever happen in my lifetime. But a predominate theme as an ally would suffice. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #67

apparently that is not their goal. Some just want to throw a hissy fit. bbgrunt Aug 2015 #79

Oh for fuck's sake... Maedhros Aug 2015 #54

As a white person, I have been asking African-Americans on this message board just what JDPriestly Aug 2015 #65

I have asked the same question. Not any real answers yet. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #68

Here is a direct link to the article rather than to a list of political articles in Esquire: tblue37 Aug 2015 #23

K & R!!! Thespian2 Aug 2015 #25

. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #39

I was completely behind BLM's first interruption of Bernie nyabingi Aug 2015 #46

Charles Pierce is also missing the fact the protest against racial injustice brought attention to an Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #47

I agree nyabingi Aug 2015 #56

White militias and white police forces are brothers in arms. "White Like Me" - the mindset of many police and media. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #57

Well, the perpetratress is a republican and a racist, so Doctor_J Aug 2015 #70

K&R Oilwellian Aug 2015 #77

Charlie, I normally like you DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #78

"We're not strong enough to fight the enemy . . . cer7711 Aug 2015 #80

Racism here is a lot like mist rain eridani Aug 2015 #81