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4. but the tax doesn't fund the insurance industry, so he can't repeal the regulations
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jul 2012

i'm not clear on the reconciliation process, but assuming he's right, i'd tend to agree that what matters is what it IS, regardless of the terminology used in the law.

but he can only legitimately use reconciliation to repeal the tax/penalty.
he can't use it to repeal all the restrictions on the health insurance industry because the tax goes to the treasury and doesn't fund the health insurance industry or the restrictions.

at least, that would be my interpretation. i'm quite confident that republicans will completely ignore any such logic and use any excuse to repeal the whole thing.

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Not sure about that.. SCOTUS declared it a tax but the law itself does not. DCBob Jul 2012 #1
Did SCOTUS really say it was a Tax? Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #13
Here's my understanding. Igel Jul 2012 #16
Well then, when the Republicans try to kill it with reconciliation... Kablooie Jul 2012 #17
Yeah, well good luck with that TlalocW Jul 2012 #2
obviously it only matters if republicans hit the trifecta unblock Jul 2012 #9
What about if the Demorcats filibustered ? Mr. Sparkle Jul 2012 #3
If its a tax then they can use "budget reconciliation" which only requires simple majority. DCBob Jul 2012 #5
What about if it is a penalty / fine. Can that be as easily removed as well? Mr. Sparkle Jul 2012 #10
I think only if its a tax can they use the budget reconcilation route. DCBob Jul 2012 #11
if it is a fine penalty littlewolf Jul 2012 #12
reconciliation is a way to bypass the 60-vote cloture requirement. unblock Jul 2012 #6
but the tax doesn't fund the insurance industry, so he can't repeal the regulations unblock Jul 2012 #4
Keep feeding the fringe BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #7
naturally, when republicans were on the other side of the coin,...: unblock Jul 2012 #8
No, they also need the Presidency. Arkana Jul 2012 #14
How many votes are required to expel McChinless from the Senate? - n/t coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #15
51% if someone is running against him... nt littlewolf Jul 2012 #18
Yeah, but I was actually hoping the Senate itself might do the honors. (One coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #20
Okay, why in the hell are Ins. companies letting them do this? sofa king Jul 2012 #19
Only if they have the whitehouse too quaker bill Jul 2012 #21
As long as Obama's president, they can't override his veto. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #22
Mitch McConnell is an evil, subhuman reptile. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #23
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