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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: BLM Needs to Be Marginalized and Go Away If It Is Going to Attack Natural Allies Like Bernie... [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)45. How do you know we are following him with "blind allegiance"...
Following a CORPORATE owned candidate that does most of her stops soliciting $2.7k donations at private parties in my book is more "blind allegiance".
Symone's hiring & the announcement of his reform plan was after Seattle. Hillary's team is still more diverse.
NO! She had already been hired before that incident. It can be argued that it was a response to what happened at NetRoots, but was clearly not a response to what happened in Seattle, when she was already announced as the new chair on Saturday then. And please explain why Hillary's team is "more diverse"...
I think it was BLM (or those individuals in question who are questionably claiming to represent most of BLM's views) that was the one that was telling him that he "was behind".... If BLM wants help with their cause, I'm sorry but it IS as much their job to reach out to those in our government, as it is government to reach out to them. If they don't try, or just basically attack those in government instead of trying to work with them initially, then how do they expect people to respond? They really have failed the art of persuasion, when going after Bernie, as he has shown in his history to always be a good ally for people of color in the past.
Hillary lead a lot of demographics when Obama was running at this stage too. Why? A thing called "name recognition". They don't hate Bernie for still unexplained reasons that these individuals seem to, I guess because he looks too old and white, or perhaps because he's Jewish? Still trying to understand why they like him so much less than other Republicans or Democrats. They need to be more specific on what are their problems with him if they don't want to be taken as having some form of reverse racism or the like being their motivation. It still seems odd why Marisa would have some photos showing her identifying with Sarah Palin, but going after Bernie. That shows a warped set of priorities for me if she really wants to help POC with getting more friends working for them in Washington.
I think Bernie has had a lot lengthier career in being a politician than Hillary has, even if Hillary has had a big chunk of it in the White House as a first lady.
I think Bernie is doing just fine in the "people" constituencies, which is what a democratic system of government should be about in terms of who should be the power to decide who gets elected. I think it would be pretty tough for Hillary to match the sheer numbers of people attending her events that Bernie has had. I'm guessing she's avoiding those now, because she will suffer from the perception that she doesn't get near the same amount of following that he does if people measure turnout for events should she try them instead of just doing private fundraisers.
The people are wanting a big change now, and don't like politicians as much who are just playing the power games of raising money without really meeting the people much on the campaign trail. They are getting VERY tired of big money politics now, and want something different. Bernie represents that change that many of them want now. That is going to be just more and more visible in this campaign as time goes on, and the numbers are going to even out, like in New Hampshire, where Bernie has surged ahead now.
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BLM Needs to Be Marginalized and Go Away If It Is Going to Attack Natural Allies Like Bernie... [View all]
EEO
Aug 2015
OP
Really. Do you know Black Lives Matter activists? Have you ever participated in a BLM action?
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#32
Why don't you repeat that statement to Symone Sanders. She'd love to respond to these INSULTS!
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#33
If calling people "white supremacist" with absolutely NO BASIS is "criticism"...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#60
Ignoring the two actions that targeted Sanders, quick… tell me what you have done
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#34
What have I done? I helped on a committee at the county level put forth a resolution...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#37
There's a thread claiming BLM is a Secret Plot by "Black Lesbians" to perpetuate racism
emulatorloo
Aug 2015
#9
Wasn't his event. He was an invited guest to speak for a few minutes. He didn't seem put out.
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#35
Yay for you! You have just parroted what I have been reading on near every hate
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#28
BLM is not a monolithic organization. It's not at all clear that the female
winter is coming
Aug 2015
#7
Indeed. People like the OP need to find another candidate. Trump, perhaps?
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#30
After 24 hours of all this, I still support the goals of#BLM but not always their tactics or targets
aikoaiko
Aug 2015
#21
You do not deserve to be a Bernie Sanders supporter. He would NEVER EVER suggest that BLM
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#27
It will go on as long as we keep seeing high profile killings of unarmed black people
Cali_Democrat
Aug 2015
#41
Without leaders, anyone is #BLM, and that will lead to more incidents like the other day.
fbc
Aug 2015
#42
Yet #BLM interrupts Bernie Sanders in Seattle, what happens after that incident?
Cali_Democrat
Aug 2015
#43
No. Black Lives Matter is important. It is the supporters of other candidates who are
djean111
Aug 2015
#52
As a black person, I don't wholly disagree. They seem rather unprofessional and short-sighted.....
tjdee
Aug 2015
#53