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treestar

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160. To be fair, if white people have ideas and suggestions they are
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:42 PM
Aug 2015

whitesplaining and telling the black people what to do. Some people just don't want the conflict resolved, whether they want to continue as privileged whites or that sense of being a victim which makes people somehow more comfortable and so they hang onto it with all their might.

The best leader on the subject is Obama. Maybe post Presidential he'll be able to do a lot. His speeches and thoughts on this are always great and try to unite and not divide. He is of both races and has leadership skills.

Bernie will make no difference anyway by losing the election to a Republican. The BLM needs to bother Democratics candidate that might be able to beat a Republicans.

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From a purely strategic point of view, O'Malley proved he's in to win this thing..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #1
C'mon, 9 supporters? DU doesn't equal the real world. FSogol Aug 2015 #5
no disrespect meant I was trying out humor obviously I failed. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #78
Isn't Rev. Wright under the bus? (nt) stone space Aug 2015 #2
Maybe, when defending a candidate's voting record amounts to talking down to Supersedeas Aug 2015 #161
Puhhleease...Bernie has more leadership in his little pinky than the rest of the field combined. Good try though... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #3
+1 n/t RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #27
+1000000 n/t MissDeeds Aug 2015 #90
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #127
Dan your attempts to exploit racism to smear your opponenets has caused me to lose respect for you Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #4
Of course, I should be ashamed, not the people who say that BLM is just about black lesbians. DanTex Aug 2015 #6
Well I have not heard anyone say BLM was just about black lesbians or a Hillary plot Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #10
Now you have. DanTex Aug 2015 #12
I am not responsible for what every Bernie supporter says Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #29
I didn't say you were. What I did say is that Sanders supporters are making asses of themselves DanTex Aug 2015 #42
I see plenty of Hillary supporters making asses of themselves as well Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #54
So how exactly am I "exploiting racism"? I'm making a comment about Bernie's leadership, DanTex Aug 2015 #60
Ahhhh . . . Bernie Sanders hired a black woman as his nat'l press secretary brush Aug 2015 #87
the term "white left" is racist and divisive. WDIM Aug 2015 #137
The 'white left' AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #146
Unlike Hillary supporters who have been race baiting for months, eh? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #59
Hillary tried to exploit the Reverend Wright controversy in 2008 virtualobserver Aug 2015 #69
Yes, she did, and Obama handled it well. DanTex Aug 2015 #73
LOL! You say that like it's a bad thing. n/t Dawgs Aug 2015 #77
Bernie is fine virtualobserver Aug 2015 #83
True AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #147
I think a private meeting behind closed doors with no media present is the way to go. jalan48 Aug 2015 #96
What Bernie lacks isn't leadership - it's the political police on Hillary's payroll who IDed the BLM leveymg Aug 2015 #79
FYI: onehandle Aug 2015 #84
wow and of course people aren't be targeted for alerts no not at all dsc Aug 2015 #120
The Jury System MUST NOT BE QUESTIONED! onehandle Aug 2015 #121
Here the jury worked amazingly well dsc Aug 2015 #122
Amen GitRDun Aug 2015 #191
Tis not a zero sum game. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #201
I don't regret this OP. I honestly think Bernie mishandled the BLM situation. DanTex Aug 2015 #203
Great call out on this bs silenttigersong Aug 2015 #8
It's not much of a protest if it doesn't get anyone upset Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #14
I have participated in Black Lives Matter protests Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #20
It's good that you take part in protests Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #31
Everybody who participates has a small bit of influence Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #43
Still disagree Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #68
Fabulous. AMAZING posts. Welcome to DU, spacedog Number23 Aug 2015 #197
"What you and other Hillary supporters are doing is despicable" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #16
+1 n/t RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #30
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000. Cynical. Exploitative. Disgusting. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #109
he handled it with grace and dignity. cali Aug 2015 #7
He didn't handle it at all, actually, that's the problem. He sat there and let things happen. DanTex Aug 2015 #9
What was he.... sgtbenobo Aug 2015 #11
He should have gotten out ahead of the whole issue, brought BLM and racial justice into his campaign DanTex Aug 2015 #15
So, Sanders started this whole mess for you April.... sgtbenobo Aug 2015 #19
Last I checked, Sanders was running against Hillary, not BO demwing Aug 2015 #49
Agree, Obama would have talked to them treestar Aug 2015 #156
Those girls had no interest in furthering BLM AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #163
Obama Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #22
I can't believe you wrote that fasttense Aug 2015 #50
It really does amaze me Matt_in_STL Aug 2015 #64
+1 Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #102
Beats me. There's a black president, ffs, why aren't there BLM protests at the Nay Aug 2015 #111
Come on Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #169
Then let the media go insane. He's been called everything in book... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #210
! +1000 bbgrunt Aug 2015 #125
See above Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #151
I have said nothing of the sort Matt_in_STL Aug 2015 #183
The original question which I answered Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #187
You'll note my original reply was not to you Matt_in_STL Aug 2015 #189
We are talking about two different things Spacedog1973 Aug 2015 #150
I suppose if you limit the scope of discussion to just what happens on stage fasttense Aug 2015 #219
lol. cali Aug 2015 #75
They are Obama supporters AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #164
Ha! haikugal Aug 2015 #155
Exactly - nt treestar Aug 2015 #80
Agree nt tjdee Aug 2015 #85
hog shit! Cobalt Violet Aug 2015 #13
hog shit with a cherry on top! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #46
And hog shit smells a lot worse than bullshit. zeemike Aug 2015 #70
After spoiled cabbage slop JackInGreen Aug 2015 #100
WOW! so much bullshit in one post!! The propaganda is strong in this one!! bowens43 Aug 2015 #17
+1 n/t RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #33
Agreed MissDeeds Aug 2015 #92
Well, it is Dan. He's got a long history on these kinds of things. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #142
I think you're jumping the gun, and the parallels with Obama are apples and oranges Armstead Aug 2015 #18
I agree that Sanders can still turn this around but so far he's handled it poorly. DanTex Aug 2015 #25
I disagree that it hs been silence and staying the course Armstead Aug 2015 #38
IMO just the fact that the animosity between the white left and BLM has grown so much DanTex Aug 2015 #48
I posted a question as a thread. Armstead Aug 2015 #57
'The animosity between the white left and BLM' AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #166
What's going on? Sanders just hired a black Nat'l Press Secretary brush Aug 2015 #95
They certainly are treestar Aug 2015 #35
Sanders missteps are minor too ultimately Armstead Aug 2015 #39
Bullshit from top to bottom JackInGreen Aug 2015 #21
It's bullshit on an epic scale deutsey Aug 2015 #51
Mount Evercrap JackInGreen Aug 2015 #55
Bingo! deutsey Aug 2015 #56
LOL! Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #105
I miss the unrec button. Scuba Aug 2015 #23
Ain't that the fucking truth. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #47
Now you have to compare him to Obama to protect HRC? aikoaiko Aug 2015 #24
Ever More Attacks On Bernie cantbeserious Aug 2015 #26
I think they are really starting to worry. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #215
Watching that tape, it was kind of pathetic treestar Aug 2015 #28
It wasn't his stage for one. For two, it was a no win situation. phleshdef Aug 2015 #58
exactly restorefreedom Aug 2015 #128
I'd love to hear what that better way is whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #123
Well, obviously he should have personally ninja kicked them off the stage himself. phleshdef Aug 2015 #133
He looked like he was being chased off treestar Aug 2015 #154
They weren't there to 'talk to him' AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #159
a leader could talk to them treestar Aug 2015 #170
Lol whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #174
who the hell thinks blm is about black lesbians? retrowire Aug 2015 #32
I know, it's insane. And 81 recs, no less. DanTex Aug 2015 #44
I listened to pap there JackInGreen Aug 2015 #52
if thats all you got from that article retrowire Aug 2015 #61
Yes, there were other smears against BLM, but you gotta admit, the "black lesbian" thing just DanTex Aug 2015 #65
so how does this prove your clickbait title? retrowire Aug 2015 #72
You may not realize this, but recing an article Vattel Aug 2015 #218
Community diversity og1 Aug 2015 #34
I've got to agree with you on this. Jappleseed Aug 2015 #36
More attacks on Bernie by the opposition RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #37
-The Social Security and Medicare event at Westlake WAS NOT A SANDERS EVENT! Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #40
No one wants to talk about that. randome Aug 2015 #124
YAWN. This is so... Saturday. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #41
Ha . . . this is "the Donald's" new talking point. Vinca Aug 2015 #45
Unrecommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #53
Yawn billhicks76 Aug 2015 #62
*hands you a cigerette* JackInGreen Aug 2015 #104
For some, the only way to win is to cheat Android3.14 Aug 2015 #63
Posted to for later 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #66
Oh I thought it was all about Bernie ' s supporters... ibegurpard Aug 2015 #67
I think the two can be seperated. Sanders/Supporters NCTraveler Aug 2015 #71
Yes, but... DanTex Aug 2015 #76
"But, as the de facto leader of the white left at this time, I think he has more responsibility" NCTraveler Aug 2015 #86
OK, that's fair. DanTex Aug 2015 #89
You make some good points about how he could have been more pro-active. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #93
I thought he was a presidential candidate. stone space Aug 2015 #196
By "de facto" I mean unofficially, he's basically assumed that role, based on DanTex Aug 2015 #198
Do you have any idea how big the crowds were for Obama back in 2007? stone space Aug 2015 #199
Yes, and I think Obama became the de facto leader of the entire Democratic party DanTex Aug 2015 #200
You pivoted from the "white left" to the Democratic Party. stone space Aug 2015 #205
As I explained, Obama had a different constituency than Bernie. DanTex Aug 2015 #206
The white left as I know it is not really part of the Democratic Party. stone space Aug 2015 #207
Maybe we have different definitions of the "left". DanTex Aug 2015 #208
DU is a website for me. stone space Aug 2015 #209
Well, at least he didn't use a personal server to send and Fawke Em Aug 2015 #74
Holy shit! People actually recommended this crap? Wow!! Dawgs Aug 2015 #81
Is the "Bernie is a SOCIALIST who will make us all queue up in front of govmint stores for $30 djean111 Aug 2015 #82
they're pivoting so fast they're starting t lose track. ibegurpard Aug 2015 #97
Od dear. Now I have the image of a bunch of people with HRC buttons, spinning djean111 Aug 2015 #98
Neh JackInGreen Aug 2015 #112
"Not the transformative leader Obama was" Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #88
^that sums up the non-transformative Obama perfectly. WDIM Aug 2015 #143
You need to catch up DrBulldog Aug 2015 #91
Recced and kicked. nt MrScorpio Aug 2015 #94
And what does Hillary's hiding, and finally inviting them to "chat" after a month show? ram2008 Aug 2015 #99
It's ironic that Senator Sanders is criticized for silence during these protests... ALBliberal Aug 2015 #101
Indeed. Old Crow Aug 2015 #106
I guess the BLM/Bernie thing has been a real opportunity for the candidate you support, HFRN Aug 2015 #103
This reads like wishful thinking. Hillary Clinton continues her "inevitable" slide... nt Romulox Aug 2015 #107
I guess she really was the 'inevitable' candidate, after all HFRN Aug 2015 #108
And yet Obama 2008 was all about 'Rev' Donnie McClurkin and 'Rev' Kirbyjon Caldwell attacking Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #110
Actually Bernie is handeling this just fine. It's many of his suporter who are not. PFunk1 Aug 2015 #113
Nope Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #114
Oh my God the vast hypocrisy of all who denounced every disruptive activist of the past who now Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #115
And, conversely, the hypocrisy of those who supported disruptive activism in the past, DanTex Aug 2015 #117
Then go talk to those people, all the hypocrites should in fact own up to that hypocrisy. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #118
You don't have standing to invent a race problem for Bernie... MoveIt Aug 2015 #129
TOPS Ron Green Aug 2015 #116
I was looking for you! artislife Aug 2015 #131
Thanks, Buddy. I hate to kick this thread, but Ron Green Aug 2015 #149
uhhh, keep milking this for Hillary. The shame of bbgrunt Aug 2015 #119
yup...this is one option Sheepshank Aug 2015 #126
Brazen Bullshit MoveIt Aug 2015 #130
Obama has not been a transformative leader. WDIM Aug 2015 #132
"Militarization of the police began under obama." You better have something to back that up with. randome Aug 2015 #136
Where is Obama's plan for racial justice? WDIM Aug 2015 #140
He is hated by the right. randome Aug 2015 #144
Police Departments are state and local treestar Aug 2015 #157
Then why is everyone demanding detailed federal plans to address it from the current candidates? whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #194
Obama derangement syndrome on display. redstateblues Aug 2015 #213
I think its very hard for us whites to come to grips with this issue. apnu Aug 2015 #134
this post is far too thoughtful ibegurpard Aug 2015 #138
Thank you, but it needs to be said. apnu Aug 2015 #141
To be fair, if white people have ideas and suggestions they are treestar Aug 2015 #160
Its not whitespalining if whites are talking to whites. apnu Aug 2015 #172
OK that makes sense treestar Aug 2015 #184
It would be glorious if white allies did that at a GOP rally. apnu Aug 2015 #186
+1000000000000000000 azmom Aug 2015 #212
If Sanders and Trump debate, together they'll look like Simon Bar Sinister and Cad Lackey Freelancer Aug 2015 #135
Sanders leads Clinton in NH. nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #139
Hence Dan's post. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #145
Bernie don't pivot. Bernie don't triangulate. Freelancer Aug 2015 #148
You know, just go ahead and say what you are thinking nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #152
Yes, I did say what I was thinking, which is that Bernie mishandled the situation. DanTex Aug 2015 #158
You did not go all the way nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #171
Of course I did. I know exactly what I was thinking, and I wrote it. DanTex Aug 2015 #173
You implied it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #175
No I didn't. And in case you're confused, no I don't think they should have been arrested. DanTex Aug 2015 #176
Nah Dan I just expect it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #178
I see you injected anti-semitism for no reason again, R B Garr Aug 2015 #216
You wouldn't happen to be a fan of Hillary Clinton, would you? HappyPlace Aug 2015 #153
I like all the leading Democratic candidates. They all have strengths and weaknesses. DanTex Aug 2015 #162
lol ibegurpard Aug 2015 #165
Anyone who reads my posts knows that I like all the leading Dem candidates. DanTex Aug 2015 #168
lol AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #167
WTF are you taking aobut? Man oh man do you have it wrong! ghostsinthemachine Aug 2015 #177
That's exactly what Trump said HFRN Aug 2015 #179
Actually it's totally different. Almost the opposite. Did you even read the OP? DanTex Aug 2015 #180
no, it's not nt HFRN Aug 2015 #182
You may feel righteous and objective but that is only your self opinion. mmonk Aug 2015 #181
Hillary supporters' handling of BLM shows despicable opportunism. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #185
This OP is stinking up the joint. n/t Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #188
EEK! It's the White Left!! Hide your children!! Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #190
The white left is scary! They're a bunch of radical militants! stone space Aug 2015 #211
I'm trying to remember how long the Rev. Wright thing dragged on... Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #192
I'm calling your bullshit out and raise you by two insane zealots... Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #193
He handled it fine and YOU can't handle THAT whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #195
What utter horseshit. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #202
Scrape that barrell! arcane1 Aug 2015 #204
I guess that New Hampshire poll is really stinging, huh? Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #214
The "white left".... sibelian Aug 2015 #217
You've convinced me. GoneOffShore Aug 2015 #220
That's a great comment. Definitely worth the kick. DanTex Aug 2015 #221
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