BLM Needs to Be Marginalized and Go Away If It Is Going to Attack Natural Allies Like Bernie...

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60. If calling people "white supremacist" with absolutely NO BASIS is "criticism"...

... then I'm sorry, that's not asking people to be nice in response. It's a RUDE and NON-CONSTRUCTIVE remark and deserves criticism back. If you don't think so, then I'm sorry but you are absolutely clueless about how to win friends and foster any kind of change. To say we are "hyper emotional" in our response to such criticism would be an understatement as a description of their original comments that lead to our responses.

Whether HRC is owned or not is a matter of opinion. I take it you don't share mine. So be it! But your opinion doesn't invalidate mine.

I guess Symone must be a white lady wearing black makeup then huh? What more do you want? She had the longest speaking role here in Portland of any speaker other than Bernie himself, and that included one that was speaking for Hispanic people too. Again, people's OPINION of whether he has enough diversity in his campaign.

Bernie's not running to be chair of the NAACP. He's running to be president of ALL people in this country. He needs to speak for ALL of us! And so far he's been doing the best damn job of doing that than any other candidate out there! Just because BLM wants him to speak LESS to people that aren't POC (which seems to be the message they are communicating) doesn't mean he's going to do that. He will try to speak more to POC, and has done so, and has had a lifetime of working for them and NOT against them, so there's only so much he can do to satisfy someone that has something else up their craw about him that they still haven't adequately explained yet.

Yes, Bernie will never be Barack. No one asks him to do that. And quite franky I hope he NEVER DOES turn his back on the American people like Barack has in some instances like his pushing for corporate trade bills like Fast Track (TPA), TPP, TISA, TTIP, etc. that will make this country in to a nation of fascist slaves if we aren't careful.

And Bernie at this time of his campaign in 2007 only had around 3,400 people in the convention center, albeit charging $25 ahead when Bernie didn't charge people anything. But if he grew that 3.4k to 75,000 later in primary season, I wonder what Bernie will grow his 28k crowd this time around in primary season later.

I'm not speaking of any "obligation" that BLM has at all to myself or others outside of the movement. I'm speaking of whether they want to actually do something as an obligation to the POC that they say they represent in getting some changes made in our government to fix the problems with police and save POC's lives. Doing what these women did in Seattle is a far cry from doing anything in that direction, and arguably is going to set them back in those goals and obligations to POC who they are saying they are working for to fix these problems.

Bernie has tried to reach out. They keep effectively spitting in his face with the kind of responses they are giving back to him, and it doesn't seem very clear why they are attacking him and sporting badges of SARAH PALIN, as if she would be some kind of hero that will fix this crap, when she will be the one of those that will keep a party in power that will continue to perpetuate this system of institutional racism. These women need to get their priorities straightened out if they don't want to just PO people in their quest for more attention and actually accomplish something with increased attention instead.

I think DU can wind this back if people don't continue to support those people that were stirring up the pot of bad feelings and instead say, push them aside. Let's look at BLM issues themselves, and start again and work on what we can agree on are issues that we need to help them fix. That I can agree on. But I won't be "shut up" in dismissing those that basically were telling me and others here that we're full of it with absolutely no basis for saying those sort of things.

It's not just POC that are being crapped on by corporate America. Anyone in the media that tries to speak against TPP and other issues talking about how the corporate power structure is destroying middle class america are also getting shut down and asked to just "shut up" about it. People like Ed Schultz, etc. are basically pushed aside, and many of us aren't going to stand by and accept that without complaining about that too.