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azmom

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61. They did not necessarily invent it as much as exploited

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Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:24 PM

Aug 2015

An issue that they know would divide us.

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The Rise Of Bernie Sanders Has Turned The Democratic Party Upside Down [View all] 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 OP

Yes it has. Agschmid Aug 2015 #1

LOL - Thanks nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #3

It isn�t a coincidence that ......... Democrats are actively searching for more serious candidates DJ13 Aug 2015 #2

What I don't get 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #5

........unless she totally drops out of the race DJ13 Aug 2015 #9

There is NO WAY Hillary would ever consider dropping out! delrem Aug 2015 #12

Earned it? RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #67

I was reading that as being sarcastic. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #76

LMFAO L0oniX Aug 2015 #85

Comedy as pain relief. delrem Aug 2015 #86

Ding ding ding! We have a winnah! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #53

People forget that Clinton's pick of Al Gore pissed off Liberals because he was too conservative.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #14

Clinton picked Gore because of Clinton's "sleaze" factor Samantha Aug 2015 #26

In DC you're expected to get drunk and flirt. Gore was known as a "stiff".... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #28

Gores voting record more liberal then biden and half of the democratic senators BlueStateLib Aug 2015 #33

Actually, that's not saying much when you think about it. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #38

That explains why DC hates LGBT people and cannabis, in one quick comment. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #100

Clinton & Gore were both in the DLC. TM99 Aug 2015 #37

They were among the founders. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #39

Yup. TM99 Aug 2015 #40

I recently read that most politicians are conservatives Binkie The Clown Aug 2015 #30

Your first gif seem oddly appropriate for this post. Rod Beauvex Aug 2015 #58

The establishment on both sides seems to be really confused Hydra Aug 2015 #4

I just wish 'our' establishment was more in touch with it's base ... 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #8

Exactly. SoapBox Aug 2015 #13

The Democratic Party establishment simply does not want the same things the base wants. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #35

Many favor the idea that both sides should get along.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #41

They take billionaires money and then are obligated azmom Aug 2015 #60

That it's assumed the DNC really doesn't want Bernie speaks volumes musiclawyer Aug 2015 #6

They will throw it to the Republicans ibegurpard Aug 2015 #7

It wouldn't do them much good. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23

One of the best things about Bernie dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #43

Look to the New Jersey/Krispy Kreme election as an example FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #83

The oligarchs don't want Bernie. They azmom Aug 2015 #63

It has certainly made a distinction between conservative democrats, and liberal dems. Gregorian Aug 2015 #10

It's because of 2 major issues(possibly more) Hydra Aug 2015 #11

"we can't have a party of both Conservatives and Progressives at the same time" delrem Aug 2015 #15

The swift boating was a sign of how clumsy or unconcerned HRC's tacticians are about being subtle Hydra Aug 2015 #17

Although the swift-boating started by attacking Bernie's strength, delrem Aug 2015 #22

Great post. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #24

Hillary's not running on her record. She's running from her record. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #25

"A War Economy isn't Interested....." KoKo Aug 2015 #102

I think you have it pretty well nailed down. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #36

That demonization, IMO as well, was partially or wholly orchestrated by god knows Nay Aug 2015 #44

I agree. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #54

They did not necessarily invent it as much as exploited azmom Aug 2015 #61

It was a meme created by the far right. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #64

guess Carson's claims about AAs being eugenicided by patronizing white liberals didn't get traction MisterP Aug 2015 #69

If one advocates forces sterilization they can hardly be termed "progressive" Enthusiast Aug 2015 #73

it was a signal element of "progressivism" 1900s-40s MisterP Aug 2015 #74

What a great subthread here. Thanks to all that contributed. I agree but have a comment. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #80

Sigh .. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #16

It simply hasn't been more now or never in a LONG time Hydra Aug 2015 #19

give it our best shot. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #21

Human induced climate change is happening delrem Aug 2015 #27

Oh, I agree, and we are decades late in dealing with it Hydra Aug 2015 #45

Before Clinton BlueStateLib Aug 2015 #34

Considering that Poppy Bush made an secret arrangement with the Iranians to keep the hostages longer Hydra Aug 2015 #46

I did tavalon Aug 2015 #18

I like Biden, but his 2008 campaign was not very strong even though he is a nice guy. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #20

Bernie is one of the few honest politicians azmom Aug 2015 #62

Very proud of Bernie. Whatever happens, I think his.. mvd Aug 2015 #29

they always say "we're for equality of opportunity, not of outcome" and then allow inheritance MisterP Aug 2015 #70

Oh, I know, I KNOW! NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #31

It's still early NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #48

As she was at this point in 2008. Name recognition. In 2004 Lieberman was the tblue37 Aug 2015 #55

In 2008 she was ahead by only 10% and she was running against a DEMOCRAT. Big differences. George II Aug 2015 #95

Both math and reality have a liberal bias. onehandle Aug 2015 #82

While I still believe in President Obama, I've been disappointed in many of his decisions. pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #32

Awesome! I've already given more to Bernie than I EVER have in the past 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #57

".......and it feels SO good to do it!!!!!!!" pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #65

Kicked and highly recommended! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #42

Pony! Magic wand! Hydra Aug 2015 #47

Hillary 2016: Because she's better than a Republican! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #49

lol Hydra Aug 2015 #50

I think the demise of Hillary is greatly exaggerated. DCBob Aug 2015 #51

So the "established" candidate seems to be in a bit of trouble MuseRider Aug 2015 #52

I got a call from the DCCC Babel_17 Aug 2015 #56

So which party leaders are panicked? NobodyHere Aug 2015 #59

Establishment 'panic' isn't likely to be broadcast on purpose now, is it? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #66

Oh Bernie Is The DNC's Biggest Nightmare colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #68

If we had non-corporate controlled leadership in the Dem Party, they would be backing Sanders sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #71

Or, it was upside down and now it is right side up. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #72

Right Side UP we go!!!!!!!!!! Go Bernie!!!!!!!!!!! 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #78

No it has not turned the Dem party upside Down: HIllary is leading with by 20to30 points lewebley3 Aug 2015 #75

That's right. There's absolutely nothing to see here 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #79

I support Hillary the best candidate the Dem's have: Hillary is still leading the Dem 55 lewebley3 Aug 2015 #103

I kinda got that from your first post 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #105

The rise of Bernie in states other than NH is not following NH as this article reveals. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #77

"But early polling isn�t a great predictor of electoral outcomes." 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #81

This is exactly right, this is early polling and causes me to wonder why the polling results is any Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #84

To my knowledge, neither Bernie nor even ONE of his supporters has EVER said that 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #89

I do not recall any Hillary supporters saying she was inevitable or she was going to be coronated. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #94

"But HRC is still the frontrunner in all the polls." 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #96

You posted this: Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #97

I did post that. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #98

I'm not the only one who's noticed: The Guardian "Hillary's coronation" 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #99

Has the Guardian endorsed Hillary? I do not fear her ability to handle the duties of president, Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #101

The Rise of Bernie Sanders Has Turned the Democratic Party Rightside Up. Triana Aug 2015 #87

Exactly. You are not the only one 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #91

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2015 #104

Good. I think the party needs to move far to the left, but if it has to be turned upside down first, Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2015 #88

Hell yah! nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #92

'Squashed' or 'quashed'? SMC22307 Aug 2015 #90

'Squashed' or 'quashed'? Either way, we win. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #93