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Armstead

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12. The GOP did a lot better at PR on the health care issue -- Pushback for reform was not there
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:25 PM
Aug 2015

And part of what is referred to as a "movement" and what I said by the long game is marginalizing the conservative Democrats -- or at least providing more of a clearly liberal counterpoint to them so they can do less damage over time....Push the needle so to speak.

Someone like Sanders is not the cure all -- but it;s a big strp in the right direction. And he does have the chops to be a competant executive. He's proven that.

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Yeah.. alot like the left movement in Greece delivered what its leaders promised. DCBob Aug 2015 #1
Why do you "suspect" that a Bernie presidency would only accomplish despair? ladjf Aug 2015 #14
Because both Tsipras and Bernie appeal to political anger rather than political reality. DCBob Aug 2015 #15
I don't agree that Bernie is "naive". Your argument basically ladjf Aug 2015 #16
I believe given the situation its going to take time to fix the massive problems in the system. DCBob Aug 2015 #18
You don't believe that Bernie is right wing enough AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #32
Good grief... I despise the RW.. DCBob Aug 2015 #36
He is realistic AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #59
I have never voted other than Democratic and don't plan ladjf Aug 2015 #43
Labor Unions did too. kenfrequed Aug 2015 #25
Not at all.. in fact if you aren't angry, you aren't paying attention. DCBob Aug 2015 #29
Naive? So we have to live in a capitalist shit hole because to dream of any kind of change, PatrickforO Aug 2015 #33
I hear you and you may be right.. DCBob Aug 2015 #39
OK. Our problems are complex. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #41
Look, us little guys and gals got welfare reform, repeal of Glass-Steagall, jwirr Aug 2015 #47
You only need one dimension nolabels Aug 2015 #54
Not so. We're not Greece, and it's time we stood up and reclaimed our republic from PatrickforO Aug 2015 #26
Let's say by some miracle he gets a win by 7% in the US House and a similar margin in the Senate dsc Aug 2015 #2
It's the long view Armstead Aug 2015 #3
well that isn't at all what Reich said dsc Aug 2015 #5
It would depend on the issue Armstead Aug 2015 #6
How much worse can they look then they look now dsc Aug 2015 #7
The GOP did a lot better at PR on the health care issue -- Pushback for reform was not there Armstead Aug 2015 #12
The GOP is never afraid of doing stuff that looks rreally bad. Adrahil Aug 2015 #21
No it is not. If we put pressure on those people in congress we have elected to PatrickforO Aug 2015 #35
And how is Hillary different? jwirr Aug 2015 #48
I'm not saying she is dsc Aug 2015 #50
This is right on. If Bernie as President tells the truth about Ron Green Aug 2015 #4
It takes more than that... Adrahil Aug 2015 #23
Uhm... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #27
No.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #31
It's not sudden, and it's not magic. Ron Green Aug 2015 #42
Yeah... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #58
That's why every time the left starts winning the establishment starts a war PatrickforO Aug 2015 #38
It means calling congress many times AFTER the election, Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #8
Bernie can do a lot with just the presidency Hydra Aug 2015 #9
Referendum and recall inititives jeepers Aug 2015 #10
National referenda are like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny dsc Aug 2015 #11
23 of the United States have referendum capabilities jeepers Aug 2015 #17
and for us to get one would require an amendment to the Constitution dsc Aug 2015 #20
You have a problem with democracy jeepers Aug 2015 #37
when democracy is used to take away individual rights dsc Aug 2015 #49
We can call America a republic or a representative democracy, it matters not jeepers Aug 2015 #51
So if you don't like the results then it wasn't really democracy is what it comes down to dsc Aug 2015 #52
overwhelmingly popular with who? jeepers Aug 2015 #55
you seriously think that Jim Crow didn't have majority support in the deep south dsc Aug 2015 #56
C'mon Bob, let 'em have their pie in the sky proposals. oasis Aug 2015 #13
Nah, let's just settle for continuing to get our asses kicked by Big Bidness and loving it Armstead Aug 2015 #19
I'm sure Robert Reich believes, in principle, what Bernie's oasis Aug 2015 #22
To quote an old adage... Armstead Aug 2015 #44
Sanders is energizing people. His message is azmom Aug 2015 #24
Why Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Aug 2015 #28
I am glad he noticed this Vattel Aug 2015 #30
Bernie has policy proposals? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #34
Look. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #40
Naw he sprang out of virgin soil with no record or proposals Armstead Aug 2015 #45
He has them on his website, just like every other candidate has them on their websites. gollygee Aug 2015 #46
Oh, you want to be spoon fed. Okay. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #53
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #57
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