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215. Not if Trump wins the Republican nomination

Reply to ibegurpard (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:42 PM

Aug 2015

Then they will have no choice but to support Bernie.

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Anyone but Bernie [View all] whatchamacallit Aug 2015 OP

if he DOES manage to win the primary ibegurpard Aug 2015 #1

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC preferred a business as usual republican to Sanders. n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #2

Look what they did to Bill Halter in 2010. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #12

yup ibegurpard Aug 2015 #90

2010 AND 2014 Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #188

I think you can safely bet on that. FiveGoodMen Aug 2015 #80

That's what they did in NJ when they supported Christie over a good Progressive Dem. Because sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #238

"Corporatists" - I think you meant to say simply 'capitalists,' but I KingCharlemagne Aug 2015 #264

Only in the sense of "if Bernie wins the primary, pigs will fly". DanTex Aug 2015 #10

Hello, Bernie supporter here. retrowire Aug 2015 #13

Funny, I seem to recall a boatload of HRC supporters who vowed to NEVER vote for Obama. Indepatriot Aug 2015 #26

Yes, in 2008. Now it's the Bernie supporters doing that, and sounding very similar. DanTex Aug 2015 #31

THIS time around? October Aug 2015 #34

DT, please humor me and list 5 positions Hillary has on major issues that you feel are superior to Indepatriot Aug 2015 #41

Or even 3? Maybe 1? Anybody? Buehler? Crickets. Divernan Aug 2015 #164

I'd be happy with one but the only one I ever hear is the old "not electable in the general" canard corkhead Aug 2015 #199

Here's one...because it would hijack this thread to discuss all of them. Sancho Aug 2015 #182

You think the Robin Hood Tax is a bad idea?????????? bread_and_roses Aug 2015 #183

yep...it's a bad idea to steal from working people and give money to rich GOP politicians... Sancho Aug 2015 #189

Normally I don't like to nitpick grammar NobodyHere Aug 2015 #195

Just a typo...easy to fix Sancho Aug 2015 #198

Hahahahaha. Who would want to fund that? azmom Aug 2015 #226

Trump. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #231

Robin Hood tax is not stealing from workers retirement bread_and_roses Aug 2015 #260

it's seriously both sides doing that, and everyone needs to cut that shit out Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #83

That attitude druidity33 Aug 2015 #179

In reality, there are very few states "in play". bvar22 Aug 2015 #240

I'd say my Sanders support is secondary to my Hillary opposition. Chan790 Aug 2015 #186

You're such a sexist hater!1!! BeanMusical Aug 2015 #230

i believe they were called DesertFlower Aug 2015 #160

Those who say that are kinda stupid, imho, ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #66

Sad thing there are many here saying they won't support her.... Historic NY Aug 2015 #72

NO, they are not stupid. They are naive ideologists passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #77

There are a lot of people that wouldn't be voting at all if it weren't for Sanders. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #88

I keep seeing this notion posted here ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #98

And I keep seeing the notion that Senator Sanders can't win in the general. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #118

I asked a VERY specific question. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #120

Where is the evidence that shows that Senator Sanders can't win in the General. That's rhett o rick Aug 2015 #124

You are the one claiming ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #128

The poster is free to make that assertion without links to support it dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #134

Any poster is free ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #139

Hillarious, not playing. - eom dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #140

Thanks for making my point. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #144

facts are great, the post you responded to wasn't intended as such, your games are stale - eom dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #145

Ah, yes, welcome to the "new DU" ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #146

So where are your facts. Does Clinton support the XL Pipeline? Fracking? The TPP? Arctic rhett o rick Aug 2015 #152

What does your latest diatribe ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #154

You must be used to people obeying your every demand. Sorry but Homey don't rhett o rick Aug 2015 #157

It was a simple question. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #159

Over the top. Agschmid Aug 2015 #218

"Maybe let the poor eat bread." BeanMusical Aug 2015 #236

"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche", I believe is the phrase but I believe it's actully been debunked.nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #241

People are stating that as being the reality, not as it being "a fact" Babel_17 Aug 2015 #184

"make any ridiculous assertion without evidence to support it." BeanMusical Aug 2015 #234

I don't have official stats but I can tell you that I personally know quite a few Live and Learn Aug 2015 #170

+1 And Republicans and Independents that wouldn't be voting for a Democrat if it weren't for Sander Live and Learn Aug 2015 #112

Have you come up with the facts ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #150

i'm not anti clinton. on a personal level DesertFlower Aug 2015 #161

At this point... A loyalty oath from either side is the same thing, crap. Agschmid Aug 2015 #222

This has nothing to do with a loyality oath. Clinton supporters have continually posted rhett o rick Aug 2015 #225

What you've posted is the definition of a loyalty oath. Agschmid Aug 2015 #247

I can't help it if some Democrats will never vote for Clinton. I am just the messanger. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #250

You've lost it. Agschmid Aug 2015 #251

You quote me but say that it might not be my exact words? What? rhett o rick Aug 2015 #254

Not Accurate psaylor Aug 2015 #73

If that's true, if Clinton supporters will vote for Sen Sanders if he wins the nomination, then it rhett o rick Aug 2015 #85

Tower, this is Porcine Air Flight B-3RN13 Picking Dem Aug 2015 #147

Oh, really? chervilant Aug 2015 #166

DanTex SCantiGOP Aug 2015 #187

Not if, but WHEN he does win the primary. RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #174

Sanders is just not prepared to be President lewebley3 Aug 2015 #190

such insightful analysis frylock Aug 2015 #205

Only senator of a small state 620,000: No executive Branch experience lewebley3 Aug 2015 #208

That's some real inside baseball stuff right there.. frylock Aug 2015 #209

This message was self-deleted by its author frylock Aug 2015 #210

Which primary? MineralMan Aug 2015 #200

You should alert on that poster. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #239

I don't alert on replies to me. MineralMan Aug 2015 #252

The perception of what is or isn't a personal attack is highly subjective. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #261

That's why DU has the jury system. MineralMan Aug 2015 #266

Of course you don't. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #268

Look at NJ did with Krispy Kreme and the Democrat in the last election. The NJ Democrats all but Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #201

Not if Trump wins the Republican nomination Reter Aug 2015 #215

Half the Hillary supporters will probly defect to the Republican - see McGovern '72 for KingCharlemagne Aug 2015 #263

Where did you read this? I don't think the author has a clue what the Clinton campaign is misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #3

argle bargle ibegurpard Aug 2015 #4

Like I said, there are some who only see the world from their misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #165

I have heard HRC operatives Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #5

Nobody is worried about Bernie actually winning. DanTex Aug 2015 #7

Hey, come on. Just spend a few more corporate millions. No worries! erronis Aug 2015 #16

If no one is worried about Bernie winning the nomination, Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #17

Yes, you should celebrate. Enjoy. Meanwhile HRC will be figuring out how to beat the DanTex Aug 2015 #18

THIS ^ misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #21

Maybe she should concentrate on what's at hand Lordquinton Aug 2015 #58

DING, DING, DING -- We Have A Winner.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #212

Counting your chicks before they hatch Lordquinton Aug 2015 #244

Think Thomas E. Dewey 1948. A picture tells a thousand words: KingCharlemagne Aug 2015 #265

Nice Lordquinton Aug 2015 #267

*DING* CORONATION IMPLIED *DING* Picking Dem Aug 2015 #149

Bernie isn't attacking Hillary from any direction n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #36

And that's great news. His supporters on the other hand... DanTex Aug 2015 #39

Are free to do as they wish, as are her supporters attacking him. arcane1 Aug 2015 #44

What did I make up? DanTex Aug 2015 #46

"Bernie attacking Hillary from the left" n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #50

I didn't say he was doing it, I said people were worried about that. DanTex Aug 2015 #53

Oh. Never mind then :) arcane1 Aug 2015 #54

Hillary needs no help hurting her chances ibegurpard Aug 2015 #57

"HRC isn't worried about losing to Bernie." Really? Old Crow Aug 2015 #138

But Bernie hasn't been attacking her passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #78

omg whatttt???? wendylaroux Aug 2015 #93

The meme that he is a weaker GE candidate is made up from whole cloth by Clinton supporters. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #115

^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Aug 2015 #127

No one is afraid of Bernie. The focus is past the primary & their misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #9

"The focus is past the primary..." frylock Aug 2015 #38

They're too arrogant to be scared of Bernie...But thoise e-mails..... Armstead Aug 2015 #8

No, its about dismantling the power behind the GOP. misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #11

You mean the same powers that are behind the Democratic Establishment Armstead Aug 2015 #15

You can't possibly think that Goldman Sachs is behind Dems in the same way DanTex Aug 2015 #19

Um, they and the other banksters drove US economoic policy INSIDE the WH Armstead Aug 2015 #22

OK, first of all, contributions from Wall Street go to both Dems and the GOP, DanTex Aug 2015 #30

I said the Dems are better than the GOP on many levels Armstead Aug 2015 #42

You think the "big money banksters" are the ones who drove Dodd Frank? DanTex Aug 2015 #47

I complain if the speed limit is lowered by 5 mph Armstead Aug 2015 #119

Thanks for trying. azmom Aug 2015 #79

Koch Money funded the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), bvar22 Aug 2015 #70

Oh don't confuse me with facts Armstead Aug 2015 #107

The Truth Has Been Spoken..... LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #213

"dismantling the power behind the GOP"???!!! bvar22 Aug 2015 #125

when you have a lot of money and been around it most of your life zeemike Aug 2015 #49

The e-mails are a non issue to dems passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #87

Reality is Sanders is drinking HRC's milkshake with little media coverage and blatent attempts at Indepatriot Aug 2015 #27

Haahaa.. ok we'll be sure to wave as HRC leaves the Primary on her way to the GE. misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #32

and as Hillary steps into retirement from public life the third week of Nov 2016 Armstead Aug 2015 #45

One Happy Day..... LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #214

There is a real world out here you know madokie Aug 2015 #60

Can we all please just stop this crap passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #106

Not a chance for bernie..He has no policy plan for any of his podium pounding chants. misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #135

Facebook is one of those small, secluded worlds where Sanders is getting a lot of play.. frylock Aug 2015 #35

It must be those few, secluded people from Facebook.... bvar22 Aug 2015 #133

Cheesy infographics Chico Man Aug 2015 #143

tens of thousands of likes and shares frylock Aug 2015 #206

Something tells me Chico Man Aug 2015 #229

NPR this A.M. speculated on just this regarding Biden & Gore candidacies... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #56

May the best candidate win!! monicaangela Aug 2015 #59

I know a woman in Wyoming who says that chickens are her happy place. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #68

So how exactly will President Sanders... Indydem Aug 2015 #153

You're correct about the limitations of office, but POTUS ... Babel_17 Aug 2015 #185

are you implying that your democrats will side with republicans to obstruct.. frylock Aug 2015 #207

Why, yes, Frylock, I believe IndyDem, may be saying just that! StandingInLeftField Aug 2015 #228

PUMA Pride! frylock Aug 2015 #242

So is it their lack of fear which has them talking about losing IA and NH? (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #113

"I don't think the author has a clue what the Clinton campaign is even about." cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #123

+10 ! (Nm) PosterChild Aug 2015 #151

Truth. n/t retrowire Aug 2015 #14

You have identified the problem. Bernie would derail the gravy train. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #20

After he loses the nomination I'd be curious to see what he does. .. George II Aug 2015 #25

We'll never know... Indepatriot Aug 2015 #28

He has to file a termination report for his committee. George II Aug 2015 #69

No, that would be Clinton, and there will be questions asked.... Picking Dem Aug 2015 #74

EVERY candidate will be filing termination reports. You don't know much about campaign finance... George II Aug 2015 #76

Ah, finally you bring up something that Hillary actually IS more qualified than Bernie at doing... Indepatriot Aug 2015 #97

No, as far as I know she's run for office only 3 or 4 times - President in 2008 (maybe 2004?)... George II Aug 2015 #100

Fantasy treestar Aug 2015 #23

That is something often overlooked in the conversation. Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2015 #37

There's more to it than that...well a little more monicaangela Aug 2015 #48

One foot goes before the other .. Trajan Aug 2015 #108

Do you have anything on which to base this theory? George II Aug 2015 #24

I had no idea postatomic Aug 2015 #29

Who ever ends up being our candidate, we definately need to.... Bubzer Aug 2015 #33

Exactly!!! monicaangela Aug 2015 #40

Republicans are so afraid of him that they're trying to make him the nominee. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #43

I agree!! monicaangela Aug 2015 #51

Conservatives� Bernie Sanders lovefest: Why the right has the hots for a prickly socialist Gothmog Aug 2015 #55

Republicans should support the Vermont socialist�s campaign to force Hillary left. Gothmog Aug 2015 #52

They are - they want to damage Hillary Clinton as much as they can before the GE.... George II Aug 2015 #64

This post seems to be written with the assumption that Bernie is too 'ultra left' for America PatrickforO Aug 2015 #71

I am not making the assumption-This is from the National Review and Republican voters Gothmog Aug 2015 #84

And I believe the exact opposite ibegurpard Aug 2015 #86

And socialism will play well in Montana? Gothmog Aug 2015 #89

right back atcha ibegurpard Aug 2015 #91

Oh and let's do a bit of comparison shall we? ibegurpard Aug 2015 #101

Do you trust the judgment of Republicans? frylock Aug 2015 #96

The Republicans are masters of dirty tricks Gothmog Aug 2015 #129

Well, we knew at the outset that everyone in the establishment of both parties PatrickforO Aug 2015 #142

I'm gonna lmfao when this backfires on them.. frylock Aug 2015 #94

Karl Rove funded Nader in 2000 and that strategy worked for the GOP Gothmog Aug 2015 #130

This is the primary were talking about here. frylock Aug 2015 #136

So Rove and Company do not play dirty tricks before the general election? Gothmog Aug 2015 #162

And as I said earlier, I'm going to be lmfao when this backfires.. frylock Aug 2015 #197

Time will tell but you are betting on the GOP not being good at dirty tricks Gothmog Aug 2015 #253

OH Goody. A new meme. The old ones were getting kind of boring Armstead Aug 2015 #122

I am not bored Gothmog Aug 2015 #131

Sunsitute "Hillary" or "O'Malley" or "(Fill in the Blank)" for Sanders Armstead Aug 2015 #132

Clinton will keep the financing gap close but I fear that Sanders is bringing a knife to a gunfight Gothmog Aug 2015 #163

+1000 MissDeeds Aug 2015 #61

As i sit posting I do not feel scared, maybe some are but not this Democrat. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #62

Nobody is pondering anything yet GitRDun Aug 2015 #63

I can see that I would never want to be associated with you at any time Trajan Aug 2015 #110

Suits me fine. GitRDun Aug 2015 #121

You're damned right it is! PatrickforO Aug 2015 #65

And by "surging", you mean "in the teens, where he was in June"? brooklynite Aug 2015 #67

We're living in bizarro world. Up is down! Metric System Aug 2015 #81

To be fair the primary really is about state polling... Agschmid Aug 2015 #223

...where he's behind everywhere but NH brooklynite Aug 2015 #227

That is currently accurate. Agschmid Aug 2015 #245

Here's his big problem... brooklynite Aug 2015 #249

Derailing the Gravy Train...I'm stealing this one...succinct and on point. libdem4life Aug 2015 #75

We outnumber them, and they know it. azmom Aug 2015 #82

I absolutely agree! SoapBox Aug 2015 #92

If they try Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #95

American Spring? bvar22 Aug 2015 #126

No one is "scared shitless" of Bernie. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #99

Reference? MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #232

Surely you're smart enough to know ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #255

It depends on what scares people, I'd say... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #257

Okey dokey. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #258

"Everyone"? I wouldn't say everyone is that degree of "scared shitless"... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #262

Those responsible for holding the hands of the monied class Babel_17 Aug 2015 #102

Anyone who has a reasonable chance of beating the GOP. DCBob Aug 2015 #103

"IF she flounders"? She's floundering NOW. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #104

Sanders said he will vote for Schumer to be dem senate leader JI7 Aug 2015 #105

when was that? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #109

when Schumer tried to get him to oppose the iran deal JI7 Aug 2015 #111

knr n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #114

'They,' eh? onehandle Aug 2015 #116

Sanders still supports Schumer for Democratic leader depsite the Iran disagreement DFW Aug 2015 #117

Capital of Switzerland! good one! redstateblues Aug 2015 #204

I actually think the establishment is worried about Clinton scandals dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #137

Some people simply don't like him Chico Man Aug 2015 #141

That's because the Democratic establishment sucks jfern Aug 2015 #148

We can't be having truth tellers in office. L0oniX Aug 2015 #155

75 right before election MFM008 Aug 2015 #156

I have had the same concern. At the start of this race, some wanted Warren misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #158

What do those numbers represent? lovemydog Aug 2015 #171

O'Malley but Dems seem to want someone older this time around JI7 Aug 2015 #173

Howard Dean remarked on that right after the 2008 election DFW Aug 2015 #259

True. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #167

Sounds very believable. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #168

Prepare For Jeb Bush Dirty Tricks billhicks76 Aug 2015 #169

I'm very happy to see the response Sanders' message is getting deutsey Aug 2015 #172

This thread is Hillarious. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #175

Absolutely! BeanMusical Aug 2015 #237

Scared in the sense if he somehow miraculously wins the Dem nomination, we could lose the WH. DCBob Aug 2015 #176

Nice try ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #177

Just trying to clarify how many Democrats feel about Bernie. DCBob Aug 2015 #178

Nope ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #180

Right... I guess you forgot this was a discussion board. DCBob Aug 2015 #181

Miraculously winning the nomination generates enormous buzz for the genereal election Babel_17 Aug 2015 #191

Valid point. DCBob Aug 2015 #192

A legitimate concern Babel_17 Aug 2015 #194

Reference? MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #233

No doubt in my mind the DLC leadership/Third Way types would prefer a Republican over Bernie Sanders Teamster Jeff Aug 2015 #193

ever since Lamont vs. Lieberman they showed that they DID prefer Pubs over someone too lib MisterP Aug 2015 #224

What IS Really Sad AND Very Upsetting Is The Reality ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #196

Democracy will win the primary. I have looked at the endorsements by the Congressional members, 118 Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #202

They were going to ignore him. Their consuitants, media gurus and buds in the industry so advised. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #203

Sanders is a Mcgovern candidate but a loser lewebley3 Aug 2015 #211

McGovern never drew these kinds of crowds and he finished a relatively.... Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #216

The debates haven't even started. Octafish Aug 2015 #221

65%& Dem in Nh want Hillary to be the nominee: American is not voting for a socialist lewebley3 Aug 2015 #243

So sayeth Lewebley the third whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #217

So how exactly would Sanders "derail the gravy train?" Adrahil Aug 2015 #219

The desperation will disappear the second they must ''back'' Bernie Sanders officially. Octafish Aug 2015 #220

Anyone with a logical thought knows gwheezie Aug 2015 #235

Including the influence last night with that often asshat, Bill Maher... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #246

It's simple. He is the status quo's worst nightmare. hifiguy Aug 2015 #248

Kick and Rec AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #256