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PatrickforO

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26. Not so. We're not Greece, and it's time we stood up and reclaimed our republic from

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Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:02 PM

Aug 2015

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Robert Reich on "Can Bernie Deliver?" [View all] gollygee Aug 2015 OP

Yeah.. alot like the left movement in Greece delivered what its leaders promised. DCBob Aug 2015 #1

Why do you "suspect" that a Bernie presidency would only accomplish despair? ladjf Aug 2015 #14

Because both Tsipras and Bernie appeal to political anger rather than political reality. DCBob Aug 2015 #15

I don't agree that Bernie is "naive". Your argument basically ladjf Aug 2015 #16

I believe given the situation its going to take time to fix the massive problems in the system. DCBob Aug 2015 #18

You don't believe that Bernie is right wing enough AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #32

Good grief... I despise the RW.. DCBob Aug 2015 #36

He is realistic AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #59

I have never voted other than Democratic and don't plan ladjf Aug 2015 #43

Labor Unions did too. kenfrequed Aug 2015 #25

Not at all.. in fact if you aren't angry, you aren't paying attention. DCBob Aug 2015 #29

Naive? So we have to live in a capitalist shit hole because to dream of any kind of change, PatrickforO Aug 2015 #33

I hear you and you may be right.. DCBob Aug 2015 #39

OK. Our problems are complex. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #41

Look, us little guys and gals got welfare reform, repeal of Glass-Steagall, jwirr Aug 2015 #47

You only need one dimension nolabels Aug 2015 #54

Not so. We're not Greece, and it's time we stood up and reclaimed our republic from PatrickforO Aug 2015 #26

Let's say by some miracle he gets a win by 7% in the US House and a similar margin in the Senate dsc Aug 2015 #2

It's the long view Armstead Aug 2015 #3

well that isn't at all what Reich said dsc Aug 2015 #5

It would depend on the issue Armstead Aug 2015 #6

How much worse can they look then they look now dsc Aug 2015 #7

The GOP did a lot better at PR on the health care issue -- Pushback for reform was not there Armstead Aug 2015 #12

The GOP is never afraid of doing stuff that looks rreally bad. Adrahil Aug 2015 #21

No it is not. If we put pressure on those people in congress we have elected to PatrickforO Aug 2015 #35

And how is Hillary different? jwirr Aug 2015 #48

I'm not saying she is dsc Aug 2015 #50

This is right on. If Bernie as President tells the truth about Ron Green Aug 2015 #4

It takes more than that... Adrahil Aug 2015 #23

Uhm... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #27

No.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #31

It's not sudden, and it's not magic. Ron Green Aug 2015 #42

Yeah... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #58

That's why every time the left starts winning the establishment starts a war PatrickforO Aug 2015 #38

It means calling congress many times AFTER the election, Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #8

Bernie can do a lot with just the presidency Hydra Aug 2015 #9

Referendum and recall inititives jeepers Aug 2015 #10

National referenda are like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny dsc Aug 2015 #11

23 of the United States have referendum capabilities jeepers Aug 2015 #17

and for us to get one would require an amendment to the Constitution dsc Aug 2015 #20

You have a problem with democracy jeepers Aug 2015 #37

when democracy is used to take away individual rights dsc Aug 2015 #49

We can call America a republic or a representative democracy, it matters not jeepers Aug 2015 #51

So if you don't like the results then it wasn't really democracy is what it comes down to dsc Aug 2015 #52

overwhelmingly popular with who? jeepers Aug 2015 #55

you seriously think that Jim Crow didn't have majority support in the deep south dsc Aug 2015 #56

C'mon Bob, let 'em have their pie in the sky proposals. oasis Aug 2015 #13

Nah, let's just settle for continuing to get our asses kicked by Big Bidness and loving it Armstead Aug 2015 #19

I'm sure Robert Reich believes, in principle, what Bernie's oasis Aug 2015 #22

To quote an old adage... Armstead Aug 2015 #44

Sanders is energizing people. His message is azmom Aug 2015 #24

Why Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Aug 2015 #28

I am glad he noticed this Vattel Aug 2015 #30

Bernie has policy proposals? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #34

Look. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #40

Naw he sprang out of virgin soil with no record or proposals Armstead Aug 2015 #45

He has them on his website, just like every other candidate has them on their websites. gollygee Aug 2015 #46

Oh, you want to be spoon fed. Okay. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #53

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #57