2016 Postmortem

brooklynite

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166. Okay-let's say Bernie has an issue...

Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:01 PM

Aug 2015

(his proposal to make Election Day a national holiday, for example).

You appear to not want him to negotiate and "make deals". How does he get suuport for his Bill, if his speeches are sufficiently "inspiring"? Or is getting this accomplished not important?

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Bernie won't go to the Capitol gym. [View all] Cleita Aug 2015 OP

This doesn't sound all that flattering to Sanders. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #1

Sorry it wasn't TH but Stephanie Miller. Cleita Aug 2015 #3

Because, he is suppose to be working on their behalf. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #4

You're going to pull a muscle with that kind of extreme stretching. arcane1 Aug 2015 #5

I one hundred percent agree about who is making the deals. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #7

I think it's about he he spends free time...I'm sure he talks to his collegues regularly Armstead Aug 2015 #32

I agree. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #36

Neh, to be honest, I dont care about it one way or the other Armstead Aug 2015 #46

He spends his time eating with the best Washington has to offer. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #51

'Deals are made'. Why would you think he should participate in that? It shows he lives by sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #167

Many of us find that admirable. He does make deals in Cleita Aug 2015 #6

While they are making those deals, Sanders won't even represent. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #8

Really? This is why he's so popular among his supporters. Cleita Aug 2015 #10

"This is why he's so popular among his supporters." NCTraveler Aug 2015 #12

It's why he will win. His deal is with the majority of citizens who will Cleita Aug 2015 #14

I would be beyond happy to vote for Sanders in the general if he makes it out of the primary. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #21

One minute he's a "fighter who will use the bully pulpit!" SonderWoman Aug 2015 #17

He's not allowed to get a cup of coffee on a break? Cleita Aug 2015 #20

Your op itself made it about a lot more than coffee. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #22

No my OP was very simple and to the point. Cleita Aug 2015 #24

I agree. And it was about a lot more than coffee. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #29

Sure beats Bohner (and others) reaching under their desks for their flasks. erronis Aug 2015 #81

Oh was this op about coffee? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author frylock Aug 2015 #132

Just put it on ignore. frylock Aug 2015 #133

Jeeze you're obnoxious... Armstead Aug 2015 #38

Yet you're the one calling people names. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #48

"I'm rubber and you're glue....etc." Armstead Aug 2015 #50

I don't play those games. Have fun playing with yourself. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #54

aw shucks Armstead Aug 2015 #65

blechhh..... nt wendylaroux Aug 2015 #90

I'm not celebrating. tazkcmo Aug 2015 #155

We like Bernie precisely because he is not part of the corrupt in-crowd. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #70

The legislative process couldn't exist unless 'back room deals' were made. procon Aug 2015 #44

Uh, transparency? erronis Aug 2015 #85

This metaphor about sausage-making holds true; procon Aug 2015 #115

I may be idealistic but I also understand the realities of sausage making erronis Aug 2015 #123

Actually that was said about movies. Cleita Aug 2015 #125

Well, he had lunch --or something--with those guys from Lockheed Martin..... MADem Aug 2015 #13

No putting words into my OP that aren't there. Cleita Aug 2015 #16

I am not putting words into your mouth--aren't you just repeating what you heard on the radio? MADem Aug 2015 #27

So time-wasting and indolent now? Cleita Aug 2015 #35

We have a new meme! "Sanders is lazy and indolent!" Armstead Aug 2015 #39

You're laughing at your own communication skills, you know. MADem Aug 2015 #63

Frankly, my communications skills do need work. I'm neither a college graduate nor an English Cleita Aug 2015 #66

Now you're just expressing pique. Your OP isn't getting universal acclaim, because it sounds, MADem Aug 2015 #82

This is getting too silly for me. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #87

You object that he eats with the people who work for him? KoKo Aug 2015 #57

Where does the OP say that? It says he drinks coffee in the basement with generic "interns" and MADem Aug 2015 #69

He doesn't sell out AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #23

Lobbyists are not allowed in the Congressional gym. Not even STAFFERS can get in there. nt MADem Aug 2015 #28

Another mindless non issue AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #55

If you are referencing the premise of this OP, you're correct. MADem Aug 2015 #74

The cafeteria is certainly cheaper than Cups and Company Action_Patrol Aug 2015 #83

That's like the "Whole Foods" of delis! nt MADem Aug 2015 #88

No kidding. The owner must be second only to maybe Action_Patrol Aug 2015 #92

+1! nt MADem Aug 2015 #96

We are discussing his colleagues making deals. Not lobbyists. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #31

You mean like the Caucus Room deal? Cleita Aug 2015 #64

What does that have to do with him refusing to negotiate with congressman in the gym? NCTraveler Aug 2015 #67

Everything. I said gym, but there are all those other places he won't make deals at either Cleita Aug 2015 #71

You're reading it wrong. Try it this way >>> Roland99 Aug 2015 #61

The "deals" that are made behind the scenes in the lunchrooms and in the backrooms are JDPriestly Aug 2015 #68

Do you work for someone's behalf by spending all of your time within A Simple Game Aug 2015 #102

It cost two hundred and fifty bucks or so a YEAR to join that lousy gym--and it is a LOUSY gym. MADem Aug 2015 #30

I really don't get it. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #33

I don't get it either. The idea that he hangs around smoking and joking with interns and low-level MADem Aug 2015 #49

Who said he was smoking and joking? Now you are just making stuff up. Cleita Aug 2015 #58

You did--you said he was "with" them and "prefers their company." MADem Aug 2015 #76

Maybe he'd rather spend the $250 on charities. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #37

I think everyone pays for a membership anyway. MADem Aug 2015 #43

Which proves my point. Why exercise in a shit hole unless there is another reason to go there. Cleita Aug 2015 #47

And the reason to go there is to talk, like humans do, about differences in legislative priorities MADem Aug 2015 #62

Different gym Action_Patrol Aug 2015 #75

There are two gyms. Bernie is eligible for membership in both, having served MADem Aug 2015 #77

I know. Action_Patrol Aug 2015 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author azmom Aug 2015 #59

This isn't a bad thing kenfrequed Aug 2015 #73

No, that's wrong. No one but legislators are allowed past those gym doors--not even staffers can MADem Aug 2015 #80

I prefer him meeting with his staff kenfrequed Aug 2015 #86

That's not what the OP says. It IMPLIES that, but that's not what is happening, I will bet. MADem Aug 2015 #94

uh-huh kenfrequed Aug 2015 #99

I am just going to suggest that you re-read the OP--because that's what we are talking about. MADem Aug 2015 #109

I don't care where he is taking coffee kenfrequed Aug 2015 #110

If you have a problem with this story about where he takes his coffee, take it up with the OP, not MADem Aug 2015 #113

Two different spins kenfrequed Aug 2015 #119

Nope. You're the one whining about his "office," not me. MADem Aug 2015 #121

Should I list your spins again? kenfrequed Aug 2015 #126

Yeah, go ahead. List 'em. MADem Aug 2015 #131

Soo... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #135

Sorry--not seeing any "spins" there. Those are opinions based on material provided. MADem Aug 2015 #142

Hah kenfrequed Aug 2015 #143

You seem a bit upset. nt MADem Aug 2015 #144

I'm really not kenfrequed Aug 2015 #146

I don't think it's terribly amusing for someone on the radio to misrepresent a weeks-old story MADem Aug 2015 #147

I only posted what you wrote kenfrequed Aug 2015 #157

Don't be sorry, I don't feel bad--and you're right--everyone CAN read the thread MADem Aug 2015 #158

Yawn kenfrequed Aug 2015 #159

Golly--ain't that something? MADem Aug 2015 #160

What color is the sky in your world? kenfrequed Aug 2015 #162

The only one who is concerned about "win/winz" in this exchange is not me. nt MADem Aug 2015 #163

I am just curious how long you'll do this kenfrequed Aug 2015 #164

No workout? I think he can and should go to the gym yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #128

He does workout but not there. I've seen photos on the intertubes Cleita Aug 2015 #134

As I continued reading the comments others mentioned that too yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #136

Sounds right. He's been working for the non-privileged his whole life. valerief Aug 2015 #2

I love this. It keeps him out of the azmom Aug 2015 #9

The very fact that he feels comfortable with real people, and shuns places Zorra Aug 2015 #11

Has Bernie had a doctor exam? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #15

I'm sure it will be out there if not already. Cleita Aug 2015 #18

Obligatory "If Hillary did this she'd be fake" post Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #19

Not sure how good this is Prism Aug 2015 #26

Congress has always had lobbyists, but Bernie won't have anything to do with them either. Cleita Aug 2015 #40

If I have a concern, it's the Obama trap Prism Aug 2015 #45

Unlike Obama, Sanders has spent more than 25 years in Congress in Washington. He has consistently Cleita Aug 2015 #52

Hopefully he will be fine Prism Aug 2015 #56

That's what Rahm was for--and they did fear him. nt MADem Aug 2015 #97

All the obstruction says no, they did not Prism Aug 2015 #104

Well, unless we're flies on the wall (and I'm not, anymore, anyway) MADem Aug 2015 #107

What a sad state of things when we might choose a manipulator over an honest person. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #152

I'm not a Clinton supporter Prism Aug 2015 #153

27 replies, and I can only see 5 of them. Zorra Aug 2015 #34

it's working! haikugal Aug 2015 #41

You have that many on ignore? It seems your choices have been wise ones. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #42

Yeah. Seriously, what are they going to say that I didn't already know they were going to say Zorra Aug 2015 #60

Bet mine's FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #53

We must many of the same ppl on ignore. Bryce Butler Aug 2015 #72

You didn't miss anything Mnpaul Aug 2015 #145

I'm not sure I get the point of this. Why does it matter where he makes deals with Senators? seaglass Aug 2015 #78

Except when he becomes President, they will have to come to the Oval Office to meet Cleita Aug 2015 #84

In the job he has now, to be effective he needs to be able to work with others in both parties. seaglass Aug 2015 #91

No, they won't. That happens infrequently, when there are difficult gaps between where both MADem Aug 2015 #105

Sometimes you have to laugh at the melodrama people try to create around their candidate. stevenleser Aug 2015 #101

Wonder how many are wheeling and dealing in the locker room. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #89

A migthty effective way to accomplish things with one's fellow legislators. George II Aug 2015 #93

Since everyone's off about how weak and JackInGreen Aug 2015 #95

Many legislators fly coach. MADem Aug 2015 #112

He flies coach and walks to work... retrowire Aug 2015 #98

This is hilarious. stevenleser Aug 2015 #100

+1. nt MADem Aug 2015 #116

How dare he lunch with the working class!! He must be a (Gasp!) SOCIALIST!! Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #103

The pretzel logic being presented by the anti-Bernie folks Cleita Aug 2015 #106

Yep. If he was a real representive of the people he'd be scratchin' his jock strap and Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #108

No one is trying to "discredit" him--but that story you heard on the radio? MADem Aug 2015 #120

I never said otherwise. It's something said on the radio but it's so Cleita Aug 2015 #122

The only tale spun was the radio one. He buys his coffee in the basement MADem Aug 2015 #129

Stephanie Miller, who is a Hillary supporter, but also reports Cleita Aug 2015 #130

Where does it say he "lunches" with the working class? MADem Aug 2015 #114

Lesser breed? Lower class? 99%? Ordinary folks? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #117

You didn't answer the question. Where did it say he LUNCHES? MADem Aug 2015 #140

Good for him. I wouldn't associate with them either. Autumn Aug 2015 #111

They have mirrors in there and the others could see he has no reflection. (n/t) klook Aug 2015 #118

No wonder none of his bills get passed treestar Aug 2015 #124

He wouldn't get them passed in this present toxic congress anyway. Cleita Aug 2015 #127

I'm a Sanders supporter, but HFRN Aug 2015 #137

The man is freaking 74 years old! How many people go to gyms at that age? George II Aug 2015 #138

I'm seventy five and I'm going to the gym right now to work out with a group Cleita Aug 2015 #139

Do you have any facts regarding the "deals" that are made in the Capitol gym? George II Aug 2015 #141

Unless Interns and Clerical Staff have a vote on the floor... brooklynite Aug 2015 #148

He knows that interns and clerical staff don't have that vote, but he wants to know Cleita Aug 2015 #149

Oy ! olddots Aug 2015 #150

Ya know, I'm so glad that Bernis supporters ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #151

Thanks for the snark. I would think that a writer would know what this is about. Cleita Aug 2015 #154

Play what? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #156

I started seeing him as a sketch of a great Senator Babel_17 Aug 2015 #161

He doesnt want to shame his Republican colleagues in the locker room. Frank Cannon Aug 2015 #165

Okay-let's say Bernie has an issue... brooklynite Aug 2015 #166