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8. flat out false, but what does that have to do with the points made in the article?

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Hillary good for white Feminism, bad for racial Justice [View all] azmom Aug 2015 OP

Are you kidding? We saw the treatment of BLM by Bernie in Seattle, he talked over them in NN. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #1

The issues are what are important to me. azmom Aug 2015 #2

The treatment? TM99 Aug 2015 #5

+1. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #25

Hillary's first job was working for poor black Children: She could have been very rich lewebley3 Aug 2015 #76

Uh... Hillary IS very rich. 1monster Aug 2015 #82

LOL jfern Aug 2015 #118

"If I hear ONE MORE TIME that Hillary helped poor black children... SMC22307 Aug 2015 #93

Sorry, but its the the truth: Inconvient truth one for you: but the Truth! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #133

All unemployment was down to single digits... SMC22307 Aug 2015 #134

The Clinton's didn't put any one jail: People were convicted of crimes! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #138

Yes, she did work for TM99 Aug 2015 #114

flat out false, but what does that have to do with the points made in the article? cali Aug 2015 #8

Bernie didn't talk over BLM at NN? DanTex Aug 2015 #14

he was the invited speaker restorefreedom Aug 2015 #27

Yes, he was. And he also talked over them. DanTex Aug 2015 #38

how can the invited speaker restorefreedom Aug 2015 #62

It's not a question of being accused. It's a simple fact. He spoke over them. DanTex Aug 2015 #68

he was the speaker. they interrupted him restorefreedom Aug 2015 #84

Here is Bill Clinton, candidate in 1992 being interrupted by AIDS activists. Compare with Bernie at Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #122

Weird AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #63

No he did not. Picking Dem Aug 2015 #83

Not true. tblue Aug 2015 #9

Where do you come up with this sturff? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #20

Here: Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #41

Wow, you found one other person that agrees with you in an editorial. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #45

Here's more Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #52

So your premise is that he attempted to speak over those that spoke over him when it was Live and Learn Aug 2015 #61

Okay, that was Netroots. Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #99

Not even a decent try. He didn't "treat" them in Seattle. It wasn't his "rally". rhett o rick Aug 2015 #23

It's on video. Specifically, please explain how Bernie treat BLM in Seattle. Zorra Aug 2015 #33

Yes, Bernie was such a meanie. What a joke. Vattel Aug 2015 #66

I must have watched an alternate reality version of what happened at NN. valerief Aug 2015 #77

See post #52 Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #81

Which shows that Bernie did not shout over them or speak over them Picking Dem Aug 2015 #85

Duh.... asshats tried to talk over him! pocoloco Aug 2015 #80

Hillary partisans just won't move on jfern Aug 2015 #117

No he didn't. Autumn Aug 2015 #137

Another Latina here supports Bernie and O'Malley second. Cleita Aug 2015 #3

What's missing from this article is: SonderWoman Aug 2015 #4

She voted to freedom-bomb women in Iraq. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #43

And Bernie voted for 32,000 gun deaths a year. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #44

She's pro cluster-bombing civilians. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #47

Yeah okay. That's like saying she's pro-abortion. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #79

.... ? Er WHUT? sibelian Aug 2015 #116

sanders voted to freedom-bomb kosovo women. there is a difference? seabeyond Aug 2015 #56

He's not a dove jfern Aug 2015 #119

no. he is not a dove. so we can stop pretending. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #123

She made a decision about the use of military force. cheapdate Aug 2015 #58

To kill the people raping and murdering women and children. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #89

More innocent women and children died as a result Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #103

as happens in any war. as happened with the wars and conflict sanders supported. seabeyond Aug 2015 #112

Untrue Picking Dem Aug 2015 #87

You mean the 3 places where woman are being raped and murdered? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #88

Sure, let's add all of Asia to that.. Picking Dem Aug 2015 #91

ha. this is interesting. talk about divide and conquer. make it a battle between POC and women, seabeyond Aug 2015 #6

so ALL white men are like that? cali Aug 2015 #11

so... where do you see ALL? seabeyond Aug 2015 #15

It's about understanding that POC women have azmom Aug 2015 #22

true. yes. absolutely. as i said. i will have to read, but i do not have time. seabeyond Aug 2015 #28

Which Steinam has always understood: sufrommich Aug 2015 #29

Nice. Sounds like she understands. azmom Aug 2015 #39

That was not the argument made by Steinam for why she sufrommich Aug 2015 #7

you mean not only do i get to dissect this subject, it was presented falsely, too. that adds another seabeyond Aug 2015 #13

Thank you for that. I'm not as well acquainted with her work azmom Aug 2015 #26

She is awesome. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #30

My daughter was accepted to Wellesley and azmom Aug 2015 #37

Wow,congratulations! sufrommich Aug 2015 #42

So very proud. She and her friends azmom Aug 2015 #48

So-YET ANOTHER OP that misrepresents the substance of an issue. Good grief, this is getting absurd! MADem Aug 2015 #70

leave it to steinem to make everything about sexism restorefreedom Aug 2015 #10

hush steinem, it is not about you!. really? seabeyond Aug 2015 #17

That's exactly right. As a latina, I can appreciate azmom Aug 2015 #21

and for many of us white people, restorefreedom Aug 2015 #24

As do I, all of us are getting screwed by azmom Aug 2015 #32

i think that is why we are seeing restorefreedom Aug 2015 #57

And they are hoping both sides get azmom Aug 2015 #60

pragmatic in quotes restorefreedom Aug 2015 #86

and it certianly helps when a white woman listens for four decades, around the world. bottonline seabeyond Aug 2015 #35

every effort by every candidate helps restorefreedom Aug 2015 #55

i agree totally with your post especially this... seabeyond Aug 2015 #95

agreed on all restorefreedom Aug 2015 #101

we can high five here. sigh... that always works for me. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #102

yup or restorefreedom Aug 2015 #104

or.... seabeyond Aug 2015 #106

very nice. restorefreedom Aug 2015 #108

As a Latina, I'm very aware and appreciate Hillary's deep history with Latinos lunamagica Aug 2015 #49

Yes, she does. But, we are going to give it azmom Aug 2015 #50

We? Who is we? lunamagica Aug 2015 #51

Me and everyone else that azmom Aug 2015 #53

I'd rather not share my personal history here. I'll just say that for personal reasons immigration lunamagica Aug 2015 #64

I understand. If she wins the primary, I will azmom Aug 2015 #65

Same here with Bernie lunamagica Aug 2015 #75

You beat me to this...here in Florida, Hillary is appreciated with immigrants and minorities! Sancho Aug 2015 #74

Steinem's reasoning is termed "misery poker": not only does each group end up reducing MisterP Aug 2015 #31

never heard that term before restorefreedom Aug 2015 #59

Me too artislife Aug 2015 #12

i never did meet the pumas. i was supporting obama, and really didnt have the time or desire. seabeyond Aug 2015 #18

I supported Obama enthusiastically artislife Aug 2015 #36

are you talking du in 2008? because it shows you just registered Tue Jul 7, 2015, 04:17 PM seabeyond Aug 2015 #46

No, I didn't post here artislife Aug 2015 #67

oh... nothing stats clinton at center right. nothing. and clinton is not my candidate seabeyond Aug 2015 #100

They're long gone artislife Aug 2015 #107

Ahhh. Bummer. And thanks... Nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #109

my problem with her is her lack of consistency on issue after issue. cali Aug 2015 #16

i have not seen this lack of consistency any more than i bought into the kerry flip floppin' seabeyond Aug 2015 #19

voted for the IWR, supported the war and her vote for many years. was strongly cali Aug 2015 #34

you certainly paint it all in the most extreme. but no. i hold no one to making decisions seabeyond Aug 2015 #40

Has she shifted her views on the azmom Aug 2015 #54

i am not sure. i probably know more about sanders, seeing as i was gonna support him so had to do seabeyond Aug 2015 #94

Hillary 2016----Because you don't want things to change artislife Aug 2015 #69

more like: bernie- because he supports what's right regardless of whether it's politically cali Aug 2015 #71

YES!!! artislife Aug 2015 #72

Oh dear ibegurpard Aug 2015 #73

Millions of women, girls around the world whose lives have been destroyed by US bombs Catherina Aug 2015 #78

Great read, thank you azmom Aug 2015 #110

same for race--are the Garifuna not black? are actual Africans fleeing to Lampedusa not black? MisterP Aug 2015 #113

This is why I don't understand BLM sparing Hillary daredtowork Aug 2015 #90

Short answer: no.[n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #92

corporate-themed white feminism Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #96

Hillary knows she is absolutely unable to take AA votes for granted ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #97

she listens. that is her greatest strength and has proven over the years. she listens. seabeyond Aug 2015 #105

She listens to Wall Street, the Multinationals, and the MIC, any one else gets an audience TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #132

eye sight differs.... seabeyond Aug 2015 #135

Let the truth be told:posts #49 #74 and # 78. oasis Aug 2015 #98

This is a bad sign for the party RandySF Aug 2015 #111

Consider the source.. it's means nothing for our party. We're not dividing anyone. Cha Aug 2015 #120

Hillary is the choice of feminists that reject intersectionality as an intrinsic primary concern. Chan790 Aug 2015 #115

Excellent post. I think this is it, exactly. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #121

clinton has stood up for, advocated for, protected women and girls around the world of all color seabeyond Aug 2015 #124

You misunderstand. Chan790 Aug 2015 #125

supporting Clinton says something about her mainstream non-intersectional feminist supporters. seabeyond Aug 2015 #126

how about if a feminist or woman, supports clinton because of credential and not as a woman or seabeyond Aug 2015 #127

Hillary seems to be more worried about the 1% of women who are frozen out of the CEO's office Maedhros Aug 2015 #128

Well said. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #130

How is finding "common ground" on abortion, "good for white Feminism"? ieoeja Aug 2015 #129

Using the gender issue, it's election time, so we can expect that. Still waiting to see them DO sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #131

"And as for Steinem, I never 'got' her at all." lmAo, i am so sure, explains lots. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #136