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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: Just polled this forum! [View all]

DocMac

(1,628 posts)
11. Thanks for the link.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:07 PM
Jul 2012

Much has been said about how the Democratic party fails to articulate their position, especially here. The details about the ACA should be laid out for all to understand, who it benefits and in what way.

"Quoting conservative language, even to argue against it, just strengthens conservatism in the brain of people who are morally complex. It is vital that they hear the progressive values of the traditional American moral system, the truth that The Public is necessary for The Private, the truth that our freedom depends on a robust Public, and that the economy is for all of us."

Having seen this link, are you suggesting we just use the word 'conservative' and avoid Republican?
Is that what Paul Krugman is suggesting? I just feel like your post is rather a moot point. You're polling words, not language.

Just polled this forum! [View all] Wild_Dog Jul 2012 OP
You seem to have something on your mind... rfranklin Jul 2012 #1
George Lakoff explains here; Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #6
Do you think the ReThugs aren't talking a whole lot about Obama? Chemisse Jul 2012 #2
Don't care what they are doing if it is wrong headed! Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #7
Hay! I just needed to cuss and spit on the ground, so I needed to mention Romney. n/t wandy Jul 2012 #3
What does that have to do with the price of eggs? DocMac Jul 2012 #4
More here. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #8
Thanks for the link. DocMac Jul 2012 #11
"You're polling words, not language." Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #18
Huh? Wait Wut Jul 2012 #5
We need to speak Democratic principles not repeat Republican principles Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #9
We're Democrats here. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #12
Lakoff is addressing the middle which is who we need to reach with our thinking/principles Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #15
welcome to DU. yes ... we discuss the opposition. it is a political site scheming daemons Jul 2012 #10
Let's rephrase that a little Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #14
"We agree with SOME of Obama's policies, but not all." Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #16
If you understand Lakoff then don't listen to Lakoff or me because I'm "Suspect". Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #17
More on Lakoff's thinking. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #13
Here is what progressives can learn from right-wing messaging. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #19
Still the same all we do is talk about Romney? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #20
I still argue that we give voice to Mitt Romney/Republican arguments instead of framing the Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #21
Your logic is flawed Marzupialis Jul 2012 #22
Marzupialis, I'm making Lakoff's argument, a well respected thinker in Democratic messaging here; Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #25
"Lakoff" didn't use your logic Marzupialis Jul 2012 #30
That is not my logic; mine is we are helping Republicans' Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #38
It seems to me that John Kerry and Jimmy Carter had lots of problems mucifer Jul 2012 #23
The Obama campaign is kicking Romney's ass right now, and we're enjoying it. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #24
We should ignore him as if he wasn't even in the room. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #29
Your point?????????????????? appleannie1 Jul 2012 #26
My point is Lakoff's point; do you understand Lakoff????????? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #31
That's the kind of campaign this is MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #27
Sniff Sniff ,I smell something. orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #28
I am sick and tired of losing to Republicans. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #33
NEWSFLASH !!! JUST IN orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #34
I addressed your 1st response directly and you come back with this; that has nothing to do with now? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #36
I'm Here where I've been for 9 yrs orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #40
is this also you? maddezmom Jul 2012 #41
Astute as always ,maddezmom orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #42
maybe just his partner maddezmom Jul 2012 #43
I know too much about emilyg Jul 2012 #32
Well said; could not have said it better! Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #35
nobody is stopping you from posting the types of threads you want WI_DEM Jul 2012 #37
WI_DEM let me assume Wisconsin Democrat, if correct then engage you in a Gov Walker discussion? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #39
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