2016 Postmortem

aikoaiko

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189. You should watch the video; the protesters didn't actually interrupt the President.

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:50 PM

Aug 2015

I think an editor messed up that headline.

If you watch the video of the Selma speech, which was excellent, you can't even hear the protesters.

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Bernie Sanders: Apology to Black Lives Matter was ‘sent out by a staffer without my knowledge’ [View all] BainsBane Aug 2015 OP

. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2015 #1

Welcome to the real world of leadership underthematrix Aug 2015 #2

How so? BainsBane Aug 2015 #3

Bernie has always worked for these groups. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #7

You mean someday I will acknowledge BainsBane Aug 2015 #18

On the issues, including the issue of racism, Live and Learn Aug 2015 #22

He's got "policies" but he has absolutely NO solutions. When is he going to start telling us how... George II Aug 2015 #60

He does have solutions. You just need to read them. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #66

I've been all over Sanders' campaign website....lots of nice words, lots of criticism, but.... George II Aug 2015 #99

Here you go: Live and Learn Aug 2015 #209

He has no interest in reading them madokie Aug 2015 #124

Silence must be better. John Poet Aug 2015 #197

you irk me wendylaroux Aug 2015 #100

"you're irksome" your words posted right backatcha. Cha Aug 2015 #102

you have hurt my feeling cha nt wendylaroux Aug 2015 #110

yeah, right. Cha Aug 2015 #114

I'm pragmatic. George II Aug 2015 #115

me, TOO! hey pragmatic friend. seabeyond Aug 2015 #117

seabeyond!!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #131

sheshe!!!!! seabeyond Aug 2015 #137

Yes! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #141

Seabeyond, you're back! lunamagica Aug 2015 #153

ha... for the time being. lol. 4 hides, but they all go away in a week or two. seabeyond Aug 2015 #156

Well, they can't keep a fighter down lunamagica Aug 2015 #165

Even if you're correct, MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #152

Clearly African Americans view it differently BainsBane Aug 2015 #73

Who are you supporting then? jfern Aug 2015 #83

I think she has been a supporter of Hillary Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #91

What the heck kind of leftist jfern Aug 2015 #92

Beats me Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #107

And makes you think I support any of that? BainsBane Aug 2015 #259

If you support Hillary jfern Aug 2015 #266

"worked to prevent his supporters not to work so hard at driving off voters..." R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #142

There have been some on this site BainsBane Aug 2015 #260

1? 5? 20? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #263

You certainly don't speak for all African-Americans. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #202

By the logic she keeps using she can't nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #208

I speak for no African Americans BainsBane Aug 2015 #211

Obviously we disagree on this. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #212

speaking of "offensively racist behavior of some supporters" AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #214

Practice what you preach. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #220

That's nothing but projection from you. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #222

"Tase her!!! Tase her!!!!" "We have already addressed it!!!!!" NCTraveler Aug 2015 #223

??? MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #201

I did tell her on a previous post that I trusted that Bernie would do more for her causes Live and Learn Aug 2015 #204

It would be a thoroughly idiotic response even if it WAS relevant sibelian Aug 2015 #210

Oh you noticed that too? Capt. Obvious Aug 2015 #230

Sure did. sibelian Aug 2015 #268

people with the best intentions do shit they forget to tell you about underthematrix Aug 2015 #126

In any "real world of leadership", wouldn't the sauve response ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #33

Yes.. GitRDun Aug 2015 #44

But in the world of the internet ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #52

The inverse is also true mythology Aug 2015 #132

While that is exactly correct GitRDun Aug 2015 #139

I don't think so. Chemisse Aug 2015 #63

His ego can't take it mwrguy Aug 2015 #96

i really think it is where he tells people the way it is and they are suppose to listen. seabeyond Aug 2015 #101

Just like his supporters who speak in his name. Cha Aug 2015 #129

It's weird.. unbelieveable. Cha Aug 2015 #130

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #147

Yes. Cha Aug 2015 #105

Yes, "real world leadership" is allowing a lie to stand. Autumn Aug 2015 #221

Do staffers NOT speak for their candidate ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #239

He has nothing to apologize over Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #4

Completely agree. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #13

They're getting more and more desperate to invent something to smear him with. arcane1 Aug 2015 #76

Bernghazi! R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #145

If Sanders had not denied that he made an apology notadmblnd Aug 2015 #89

...^ that 840high Aug 2015 #120

+1000, BLM should apologize! nt Logical Aug 2015 #247

Hillary Supporters and Chuck Todd whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #5

^^^this^^^ with Fox news as brides maid. L0oniX Aug 2015 #23

not this one OKNancy Aug 2015 #32

Good for him. That is called refusing to pander. Vattel Aug 2015 #6

Yep +1 840high Aug 2015 #121

Good for him. He doesn't owe them an apology. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #8

Yes, I thought an apology was completely out of character ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #9

Especially when none was warranted. nt cyberswede Aug 2015 #17

If you say so ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #19

I don't understand why anyone would think he needs to.... why? nt haikugal Aug 2015 #10

So the staffer was wrong to apologize? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #12

Why would the staffer apologize for Bernie...especially without Bernie saying to. haikugal Aug 2015 #15

Yes. That is something the staffer should have consulted his boss on. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #36

Do you think the staffer was wrong to apologize or not? nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #49

He or she was a little too nice Vattel Aug 2015 #72

Yes! nt Logical Aug 2015 #248

Something about being an old white supremist or something Hydra Aug 2015 #14

Well, it would be hard for Bernie to apologize for being an old white supremacist considering their Cleita Aug 2015 #30

The issue with BLM is black lives being lost to police violence. It hasn't changed. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #240

*BWAH!* Hydra Aug 2015 #11

When did Seattle apologize and what for, Seattle BLM? nt haikugal Aug 2015 #16

Maybe voting to raise the minimum wage to $15/hr, and to raise property taxes... SMC22307 Aug 2015 #40

Yes, a Seattle BLM supporter apologized for Marissa and cohort's bad behavior at the SSI event Hydra Aug 2015 #47

Totally confusing...that happened a while ago.. haikugal Aug 2015 #62

That was ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #119

Way to go Bern..BlackLives don't really matter that much after all misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #20

"BlackLives don't really matter that much after all..." R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #148

Are you really that simple minded that you believe he has to apologize for doing nothing wrong? phleshdef Aug 2015 #226

Do NOT apologize. It's this simple... there is nothing to apologize FOR. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #21

I'll let BLM know bernie & his supporters told them to Eff Off misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #25

I don't give a fuck what you tell anyone. Let's get that straight right up front, mmmkay? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #28

rrrraaarrr. misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #37

Sometimes I find your posts rambling, with no point being made. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #39

No, I'm not the one who just melted down in a tirade of FFF misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #45

Yep. Rambling without a point to make. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #48

Maybe I can say it simpler GitRDun Aug 2015 #50

No just "Outside Agitators 206" jfern Aug 2015 #85

BS supporters are saying that in his name.. I think #BlackLivesMatter have gotten the message Cha Aug 2015 #111

Go right ahead. I don't care. 840high Aug 2015 #122

The only people that need to fuck off are the few people who are making BLM look bad... phleshdef Aug 2015 #227

" unproductive behavior." as they created a discussion with the nation. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #252

Those 2 girls in Seattle weren't creating any kind of productive discussion. phleshdef Aug 2015 #255

are you looking around at all the success of gettting the message out, discussion had, attention to? seabeyond Aug 2015 #256

What "message" did they get out? She yelled about liberal white supremacy and made threats. phleshdef Aug 2015 #257

you have to be working at obtuseness if you deny what i am saying. lol seabeyond Aug 2015 #258

Back at you. phleshdef Aug 2015 #261

that just does not work. du, real life, media, candidates are having blm discussions. it. is. simple seabeyond Aug 2015 #262

He wants to represent the people of this country, ALL people. George II Aug 2015 #118

He owes the City of Seattle an apology, you say... two paragraphs after you imply Seattle ISN'T one cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #133

What does that have to do with their PD being under DOJ oversight due to racial violence? George II Aug 2015 #134

Yeah, you're right. NO progressive attitude in Seattle at all. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #135

+1 /nt nsd Aug 2015 #167

As a Latina I don't think it's always that easy to separate Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #24

I'm one of those with what is sometimes called a rainbow family Cleita Aug 2015 #29

I was at the L.A. rally and it sure seemed to be a very diverse group supporting Bernie! NowSam Aug 2015 #26

phenomenal shift..rocking the whole world?? misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #41

I am an optimist. NowSam Aug 2015 #64

You might enjoy this by Howard Zinn. azmom Aug 2015 #82

TOPS Ron Green Aug 2015 #27

So, do you have a point? hootinholler Aug 2015 #31

Todd is just a shit-stirrer n/t OKNancy Aug 2015 #34

it seems to be his mission in life restorefreedom Aug 2015 #58

WTF? After all of this he now feels that an apology wasn't necessary? George II Aug 2015 #35

Exactly what would you have him apologize for. Be specific. "Please accept my apology for..." cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #38

He turned his back & walked away. Twice. misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #46

Should a Jew apologize for being a white supremacist? Cleita Aug 2015 #43

They did NOT call Sanders a "white supremacist" or anything like that. This has been posted.. George II Aug 2015 #61

Her words. Cleita Aug 2015 #67

So you agree that she never called Sanders a "white supremacist". George II Aug 2015 #68

Ah, ah, no spinning. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #69

Right, no spinning, just a plain old simple statement of fact. George II Aug 2015 #70

That's a big fact stretch there. It must hurt. Cleita Aug 2015 #71

You posted the accurate quote: George II Aug 2015 #93

Why not Sanders and no one else? Has the same thing been said to audiences of candidates like Cleita Aug 2015 #94

Unfortunately, this would be a "shoot self in foot" moment. gollygee Aug 2015 #243

Glad he cleared that up. pa28 Aug 2015 #42

Well played by Sanders BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #51

Has BLM approached Pres Obama about solving the racial inequality issue? rhett o rick Aug 2015 #53

Black Lives Matter interrupted President Obama in Selma... Spazito Aug 2015 #77

Oops zappaman Aug 2015 #84

Yes, it seems so but not the only one so it's good to get the facts out... Spazito Aug 2015 #90

But Obama is president. He has the power to do something where Sanders does not. Yet Sanders seems rhett o rick Aug 2015 #157

I answered your question. Black Lives Matters protested the President and also... Spazito Aug 2015 #161

Obama has been president for 7 years and they interupted him once? He and Holder did nothing and rhett o rick Aug 2015 #170

Ahhh, so it is President Obama behind the swiftboating of Senator Sanders? Spazito Aug 2015 #172

i thnk i get it now. because, they have to believe.... they have to believe the possibility, seabeyond Aug 2015 #174

it also now has me asking, if we are throwing all our dems under the bus, except our independent seabeyond Aug 2015 #176

Well seeing as moderate Dem candidates aren't acceptable, only progressives... Spazito Aug 2015 #184

It has been, in a strange way, a fascinating thing to watch... Spazito Aug 2015 #178

Funny how you have to twist my words before you can continue your diatribe. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #196

"I thing it very strange that BLM hasn't done more to get Pres Obama and Holder... Spazito Aug 2015 #233

"hence the protests you find abhorrent. " Sad that you have to change my words to be rhett o rick Aug 2015 #237

Okay, you say you don't find their protests abhorrent... Spazito Aug 2015 #238

Pres Obama is the president of the USofA. He has a DoJ working directly for him. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #241

Hmmm, still no information on what Senator Sanders has accomplished in this area... Spazito Aug 2015 #242

You should watch the video; the protesters didn't actually interrupt the President. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #189

They did beat drums and chant which was an interruption on their part, it didn't last long ... Spazito Aug 2015 #192

And that's a fact. NOLALady Aug 2015 #253

Thanks, NOLALady, for your first person verification of what happened... Spazito Aug 2015 #254

Looks like Bernie's doing a little triangulation. moobu2 Aug 2015 #54

I knew you would find a way to misuse this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #55

said it again. flat out. no equivocating. reaching out to working class. reaching out to middle clas seabeyond Aug 2015 #56

I find the lack of understanding of the human condition in this thread staggering. GitRDun Aug 2015 #57

You want nothing more than a crocodile apology. The kind that's out there but doesn't mean anything cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #59

Really? GitRDun Aug 2015 #65

No apology necessary, TDale313 Aug 2015 #74

i wonder who the staffer was. do we know? could it be the new blm spokewoman for the AA issues? seabeyond Aug 2015 #75

The staffer was African-American outreach coordinator Marcus Ferrell Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #78

thanks for info. i like info. gonna read in a second. might get back. BUT.... seabeyond Aug 2015 #79

Well, it seems the staffer was thrown under the bus... Spazito Aug 2015 #80

well. that didnt take long. i do not get your point. sounds pretty simple. seabeyond Aug 2015 #81

My point was about Chuck Todd asking a tricky question Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #87

ya. you think it a distraction. the problem is, sanders considers it a distraction. seabeyond Aug 2015 #88

Don't tell me how I feel. Thanks. Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #103

YOU told me how you feel. " just a distraction". your welcome. seabeyond Aug 2015 #106

I was speaking about this campaign email in particular Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #112

It's not an extrapolation GitRDun Aug 2015 #163

The meaning was misinterpreted. Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #177

Holy Shit. Seriously. Fucking Holy fucking shit. Number23 Aug 2015 #95

If you really believe that is the truth Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #97

Your link says the AA Outreach guy -- hired by the Sanders campaign -- wrote the apology Number23 Aug 2015 #98

that is how i read it too. i thought if it was the public speaker woman he hired, wow. seabeyond Aug 2015 #104

How could anyone interpret this differently than the way I did?? What was the point of Sanders even Number23 Aug 2015 #108

well, watching the video i was surprised to hear him blatantly, clearly say... we are reaching out seabeyond Aug 2015 #116

Exactly. And, weird, too. Cha Aug 2015 #109

He has to know what his supporters have been doing BainsBane Aug 2015 #143

Perhaps you need glasses? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #150

OhMyGosh, OhMyGosh,OhMyGosh! Bernghazi! R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #149

I can't tell what's worse. You entering a thread, scrolling all the way to the end to type this Number23 Aug 2015 #151

Well excuse me alllllll over the place, but... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #154

You are the one attacking me and the OP. When you're not trying to dictate what I should and should Number23 Aug 2015 #155

Actually I was pointing out your apparently innate ability to blow things out of proportion. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #159

Allow me to help you with this. Number23 Aug 2015 #198

Oh, I'm sure that you can be many things... whatever you want to be. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #203

More than one person has responded to you to let you know that you aren't pointing out Number23 Aug 2015 #206

"... that has you crying in your Kool Aid." Snap! Cha Aug 2015 #219

And I have responded, IMHO, by pointing out R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #224

"baseless accusations" sanders hires black people to address black issues, then throws them under seabeyond Aug 2015 #162

Well firstly #23 blows what Sanders has said out of proportion in grand scale no less. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #175

you may not define it as throwing the man under the bus. your right. doesnt mean you are right. seabeyond Aug 2015 #180

Good luck, seabeyond. Good luck to you and #23. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #182

you throw out bseless, insults and demands. i gently hand you facts. luck has nothing to do with it. seabeyond Aug 2015 #186

Whatevah ya say. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #187

And this attitude is precisely why Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #213

LOL. Poor you. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #225

The mean-spirited arrogance Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #229

I don't apologize for pointing out the bad behavior of R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #232

Don't care. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #235

"Don't care." R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #236

insult then make a demand. wow. arent you da man. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #158

I pointed out the farce of post #95. Gender has nothing to do with it. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #160

no, you insult then make a demand. that does make you da man, right? seabeyond Aug 2015 #166

Try re-reading post #160, slowly, I would recommend. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #168

Gee, Senator Sanders must be so proud to count you among his supporters n/t Spazito Aug 2015 #169

For pointing out the obvious? Perhaps. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #179

That man will need a miracle to survive this primary season with the quality of his "supporters" Number23 Aug 2015 #199

If you say so... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #205

Why don't you stop making such a spectacle out of yourself in this thread Number23 Aug 2015 #207

LOL. You're funny. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #218

I've seen many campaigns, many elections over the years and have NEVER seen... Spazito Aug 2015 #234

Yes, especially when they invent fake outrage R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #244

LOL, the irony of you posting this is hilarious and yet totally expected... Spazito Aug 2015 #245

If you say so... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #251

It is. And they have been called out so many times by so many people it's insane Number23 Aug 2015 #264

I agree, Senator Sanders is a fine man, he deserves better from his some of his supporters... Spazito Aug 2015 #267

It was him? Oh, my... lunamagica Aug 2015 #164

I think that's a perfectly reasonable question, luna. I am wondering the same thing myself Number23 Aug 2015 #265

When will Obama apologize for the McClurkin Rallies? For Rick Warren's attacks on LGBT people? Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #86

,+1 840high Aug 2015 #125

and Obama lost the LGBT vote to Clinton in the Primary and he got less LGBT votes than Kerry did JI7 Aug 2015 #200

the toad's fucking "gotcha journalism" elana i am Aug 2015 #113

Hillary's peeps here are starting to sound desperate. grasswire Aug 2015 #123

Yep. Marr Aug 2015 #138

I'll tell ya one thing.. #BlackLIvesMatter didn't ask Marissa Johnson to "apologize" to BS. Cha Aug 2015 #127

Awkward. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #128

Anyone who is now saying he should apologize, or let someone else's apology stand Marr Aug 2015 #136

so. hire black people to address the black issue and throw them under the bus when they do. right? seabeyond Aug 2015 #140

great outreach from the BS campaign. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #146

it really is an interesting phenomonon, if not predictable. 40 years seabeyond Aug 2015 #171

Are you bothered that Clinton's campaign locked BLM out of her rally? Marr Aug 2015 #181

It's Bernghazi! R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #183

Completely-- it's just absurd. Marr Aug 2015 #185

I call it willfully-obtuse concern-trolling. Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #193

i like facts. from all accounts and i have heard of none differing, blm was late arriving and seabeyond Aug 2015 #188

How did I know you wouldn't be bothered by that? Marr Aug 2015 #190

blm wasnt bothered, they got there late. they knew they got there too late. seabeyond Aug 2015 #191

Oh no! Can't have security break protocol for a few dead black teenagers! Marr Aug 2015 #194

No, it isn't working, but it is hilarious to watch it unfold. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #195

This makes me happy, Bernie had no reason to apologize. n/t Autumn Aug 2015 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author nsd Aug 2015 #173

This thread demonstrates why ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #215

"Apologize? Never!" MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #216

Of course, you don't. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #217

OK. nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #228

LOL, nice try. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #250

One thing I learned from this incident dragonfly301 Aug 2015 #231

Oops! William769 Aug 2015 #246

OMG, Sanders is so inept! If he can't secure his own staff, who knows what mischief will ensue?! randome Aug 2015 #249