2016 Postmortem

kenn3d

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174. Yes I found the other thread also and saw you on there...

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:40 PM

Aug 2015

I'm still processing my thoughts about all this ... but
I would not be happy with her response... at all.
and
The Boston BLM folk were so overly respectful toward Hillary as to dull the power and even the very point of their intended message to her... I really don't think she understood or took much of it on board.
As compared to the Seattle protesters who were utterly rude, disrespectful, and contemptuous to both Bernie and thousands of innocent onlookers at the rally. Most of those white folks did not learn anything about their white-privilege and those misguided protests only widened the breach of misunderstanding.

I guess I'm still agitated too ... sorry.

I just want progress towards peace and equity amongst the races in America... not political theatre and agitation.

So far I feel we're getting very little progress, and way too much agitation.

If this thread falls away I may join the other one.

Thanks for your reply Juicy_Bellows

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Thom Hartmann asks: "Who's Lying, BLM or Hillary Clinton?" [View all] AtomicKitten Aug 2015 OP

Best rhetorical question ever asked. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #1

+1000000000!!! Zorra Aug 2015 #4

heyo AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #13

Clinton Tricks billhicks76 Aug 2015 #57

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #2

I honestly don't know what to think about this. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #14

And I don't want to keep the piss-match going but " It's always something " . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #16

In the interest of transparency Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #150

Yep... deathrind Aug 2015 #25

I noticed that too. Bubzer Aug 2015 #55

Hillary "Group" Bans Many billhicks76 Aug 2015 #63

Hillary group bans ANYONE who says the slightest thing against their candidate RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #69

I got banned for voting to hide a newbie's post that used the term "Berniebots" arcane1 Aug 2015 #88

They Aren't A Discussion Page billhicks76 Aug 2015 #103

I think I got blocked Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #105

DU Juries billhicks76 Aug 2015 #122

I have had a lot of jury calls Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #130

I Defend Free Speech billhicks76 Aug 2015 #144

Oh Boy...Another Jerk Flagged Me billhicks76 Aug 2015 #192

Oh The DU Irony billhicks76 Aug 2015 #193

I've had a ton of jury calls, too. Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #191

A lot of today's "Berniebots" were 2008's "Obamabots". Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #136

By the same token, I see during my searches of DU that many who hated Hillary in 2008, said merrily Aug 2015 #143

My guess is that those that you mention shifting from Obama to Hillary were also very anti-Edwards.. cascadiance Aug 2015 #166

I Agree But... billhicks76 Aug 2015 #145

Not sure what 'banned' means as I'm fairly new here PatrickforO Aug 2015 #135

They banned me July 12, shortly after I started commenting (after long-time lurking). senz Aug 2015 #115

Pretty sure that's the same guy who banned me... Bubzer Aug 2015 #153

Maybe he's their bouncer. Who cares? senz Aug 2015 #156

I know I'm one . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #127

I have zero problem with that. merrily Aug 2015 #142

Because It Comes Up In Trending Now billhicks76 Aug 2015 #146

Bernie "Group" Bans 74 Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #149

Hillary "Group" Bans 147 senz Aug 2015 #155

I'm guessing Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #158

Well, I don't recall senz Aug 2015 #160

Yeah Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #161

LOL! senz Aug 2015 #162

Gibberish. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #163

How better to promote Hillary v5.0? Not a bad strategy - can't let facts interfere with their version of the "truth." InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #178

Yea- deathrind Aug 2015 #66

I kinda thought the point of a political website was to have discussions about this stuff... Bubzer Aug 2015 #74

No, you are correct... deathrind Aug 2015 #83

Hey, bmus, an excellent commenter, might vote for Cthulhu. senz Aug 2015 #119

In fairness, protected groups are for refuge for hard-core supporters Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #85

Yup, and it goes both ways. Agschmid Aug 2015 #92

Yes this. artislife Aug 2015 #106

We agree. Agschmid Aug 2015 #109

I have agreed with you before artislife Aug 2015 #111

We all do it. Agschmid Aug 2015 #114

My guess is that some see what they feel is a false story that needs a response to correct it... cascadiance Aug 2015 #167

Yes, make your own OP in GDP artislife Aug 2015 #168

Really? billhicks76 Aug 2015 #181

It shouldn't go in the Trending now or greatest or latest. artislife Aug 2015 #183

IT Help!!! billhicks76 Aug 2015 #186

That is the Problem Rilgin Aug 2015 #97

It's Called Logic...Duh! billhicks76 Aug 2015 #182

I actually spent some time reading through some groups to get a feel for what they're like. Bubzer Aug 2015 #100

Shouldn't Be Listed In Trending or Greatest Threads billhicks76 Aug 2015 #131

That's a Skinner problem davidpdx Aug 2015 #189

Yes It's Logistical billhicks76 Aug 2015 #190

You see that in their headlines because it is a very expensive talking point, most likely paid sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #141

Exactly...Hillary Is Not Genuine billhicks76 Aug 2015 #184

I would review the group SOPs, and the about page for this website. Agschmid Aug 2015 #90

To be fair, the groups are "safe havens" BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #84

Ahhh. Well that makes it even more strange since there was no attack... Bubzer Aug 2015 #91

Don't you know RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #117

Then Remove Them From Trending or Popular Threads billhicks76 Aug 2015 #185

This message was self-deleted by its author CentralMass Aug 2015 #139

"Extortionists" works well. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #133

Never, ever EVER use the term 'thugs' when referring to black people. Not ever eridani Aug 2015 #147

I was told that happened Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #3

I can't get past preannouncing their intent to disrupt nor the claim they wanted no press coverage. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #5

There was no uproar however Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #6

I'm looking for consistency and having a tough time finding it. Consistency=sincerity. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #9

jeb did the same thing with blm. but then they are siblings. so ... roguevalley Aug 2015 #95

Makes you wonder if they pre-announced their intent to disrupt Bernie in Seattle and Net Roots. Cleita Aug 2015 #7

It does beg an answer. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #11

I suspect any answer given would compete with a sudden bunch of disinformation. Bubzer Aug 2015 #59

Thom Hartmann was wonderful when he came out with an emotional defense of BLM. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #64

the after meeting tweets from #blacklivesmatter were not favorable to Clinton virtualobserver Aug 2015 #8

Refusing press coverage makes no sense. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #10

Not if you have an allergy to light . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #18

. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #75

I know . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #128

So do I. jwirr Aug 2015 #58

There was also the claim that Hillary asked for them to be let in hootinholler Aug 2015 #27

I only know what it means to me. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #12

Where is this "preannouncement"? nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #15

... Cleita Aug 2015 #17

There is nothing in your link that shows the Clinton campaign sufrommich Aug 2015 #21

"Wily Hillary Clinton Thwarts Planned Disruption" AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #20

Again,where is a link to blm "preannouncing" their intentions? nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #22

#HollupHillary AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #24

Those tweets are literally during and after the event,not before. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #36

The first three tweets precede the event. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #47

This is a link from the Twitter thing you posted Quackers Aug 2015 #93

good link, thank you AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #94

#BlackLivesMatter Activists Plan to Disrupt Hillary Clinton Event virtualobserver Aug 2015 #32

The New Republic article was after the event. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #35

the initial version of that page was before virtualobserver Aug 2015 #38

A reporter from New Republic got the story beforehand and accompanied BLM to the event. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #40

So you're accusing New Republic and BLM of feeding info sufrommich Aug 2015 #43

Read the "proof" vis-a-vis links you asked for and stop playing games. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #46

I'm not the one playing games,this "we're just asking questions" sufrommich Aug 2015 #49

Are you calling BLM liars? Are you saying it was BLM that refused press coverage and not Hillary? AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #52

I didn't comment on whether press coverage was refused.I asked about the sufrommich Aug 2015 #56

campaign staffers inside the room were aware of those intentions due to the magazine�s publication. virtualobserver Aug 2015 #60

The point of the video went far beyond the question of sufrommich Aug 2015 #67

I just wanted to resolve the conflict between what #blacklivesmatter was saying..... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #71

from the politico article virtualobserver Aug 2015 #42

"The group had initially told The New Republic that they had planned to interrupt Clinton�s event" cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #34

They Pre-Announced It To New Republic... WillyT Aug 2015 #80

Full disclosure: Hartmann is campaigning for Bernie. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #19

That's a lie. Stop repeating it. He allows Bernie to spend an hour a week on his show taking Cleita Aug 2015 #29

He has admitted that Bernie is his first choice in the primary dsc Aug 2015 #70

Yes, he has. Is that a problem? The accusation was that he was campaigning for Bernie Cleita Aug 2015 #79

No it isn't dsc Aug 2015 #81

That's a stretch but I guess if you believe it, I can't change your mind. Cleita Aug 2015 #82

Yes, he is, however this does not sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #31

That is a bald-faced lie. RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #72

So since TH is on RT then Putin must love Bernie. L0oniX Aug 2015 #98

Wrong again. Hartmann supports whoever wins the Democratic nomination -- and senz Aug 2015 #107

yeah Thom, it's a conspiracy, sure. I haven't listened to his show for years, he is BORING. The still_one Aug 2015 #23

Yeah, all those facts and information are boring to some. Best to turn on Rush Limbaugh for the Cleita Aug 2015 #37

+1 Bubzer Aug 2015 #61

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2015 #99

That is more your style I suspect still_one Aug 2015 #126

He's one of the smartest talk-show hosts out there... so I don't mind if he's boring. Bubzer Aug 2015 #62

your comments are pretty bad. you might be interested to know that navarth Aug 2015 #73

"insulting Thom because he said something unfavorable of your candidate" Nailed it! L0oniX Aug 2015 #101

Thanks L0onix navarth Aug 2015 #108

He called Hillary a liar according to the OP, and fails to present proof one way or another still_one Aug 2015 #129

Take it you didn't watch the video? How can you know if there's proof if you don't watch? Bubzer Aug 2015 #154

nope, just read the text. I have to run now, but I will watch it later tonight, thanks still_one Aug 2015 #157

He's boring? JackInGreen Aug 2015 #165

all that. drum rolls.... film or not film. really? that is what the big deal is. benghazi seabeyond Aug 2015 #26

it means a failure to communicate creates mystery olddots Aug 2015 #28

Good God ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #30

They're trying to accuse BLM of being in cahoots with the Clinton campaign....again.nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #39

I know--this is just incredible ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #124

it sounds desperate uponit7771 Aug 2015 #132

And? jeff47 Aug 2015 #164

indeed where is the footage? questionseverything Aug 2015 #169

Footage was posted Picking Dem Aug 2015 #173

i'm completely and utterly confused elana i am Aug 2015 #33

different individuals MisterP Aug 2015 #50

It's too bad Hillary hasn't managed her emails as well as she has BLM. jalan48 Aug 2015 #41

Bwahahahahah L0oniX Aug 2015 #102

Interesting. Bubzer Aug 2015 #44

I find the entire situation confusing... SoapBox Aug 2015 #45

This story makes both Hillary's campaign and BLM look suspicious. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #48

"Have backroom deals been made with the Hillary campaign? " sufrommich Aug 2015 #51

Shocked I Tell You!!! billhicks76 Aug 2015 #68

The lack of consistency in going after the pols is what resonates. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #54

Huh. A few days ago, he was being hailed by the pro-Hillary crowd for his condemnations of Sanders Marr Aug 2015 #53

In my limited experience SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #65

He's a pretty smart guy. I've been listening to his shows for quite some time. Bubzer Aug 2015 #76

I agree, generally. I do think he seems a bit Marr Aug 2015 #87

Attack the messenger when ever it isn't favorable to ones chosen candidate ...standard DU. L0oniX Aug 2015 #96

+1000 senz Aug 2015 #121

Wouldn't don't take my photo with her include video too BlueStateLib Aug 2015 #77

Caught Again cantbeserious Aug 2015 #78

Why are doing this on DU? tavernier Aug 2015 #86

doing what? discussing events relevant to the primaries? AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #112

I'm thinking some of these people are from freeperville uponit7771 Aug 2015 #134

sure seems like it. riversedge Aug 2015 #137

Where's the video? Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #89

Wondered also about where that video is. n/t KoKo Aug 2015 #116

Yes. I am also still anxious to see this BLM/HRC meeting video... kenn3d Aug 2015 #123

Very well said. I agree completely. nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #125

BLM/HRC meeting video found and posted... kenn3d Aug 2015 #171

Just watched both parts. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #172

Yes I found the other thread also and saw you on there... kenn3d Aug 2015 #174

Yes. I agree. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #175

I see the other thread was locked kenn3d Aug 2015 #179

Has Hillary apologized to BLM yet for locking them out of her rally? NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #104

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2015 #110

+10 Cleita Aug 2015 #113

Where's the hashtag for them being locked out? SMC22307 Aug 2015 #138

BLM isn't just about disrupting. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #118

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #120

Why didn't they pre-announce their disruption of Bernie's events? Why didn't the ambush her, sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #140

The pattern has never broken since it was established. Zorra Aug 2015 #151

If it quacks like a duck ... First do an interview with a media outlet and then tweet it .... slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #176

Who the hell cares what Coulton has to say Control-Z Aug 2015 #148

probably neither. Probably just a miscommunication. Vattel Aug 2015 #152

Why do I have to choose between them? I pick both. Demeter Aug 2015 #159

The Video of BLM/HRC meeting posted today... kenn3d Aug 2015 #170

Did they tell her to bow down or anything like that? moondust Aug 2015 #177

This should be its own OP. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #180

No one is lying Thom. KMOD Aug 2015 #187

Oh, and by the way, KMOD Aug 2015 #188