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applegrove

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96. Nope. I just posted breaking news. Because people would be discussing it. And I wanted DUers to get

Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:58 AM

Aug 2015

out in front of it and know the details from reliable sources. I found that 13 point article on the emails from Hillary's campaign and posted that too. I support Hillary. I was just admitting that I was wrong to be for the Iraq War. And there are a lot of people like me who were and will forgive Hillary for being wrong on that too. Again. I'm trying to fight the disinformation. There seems to be quite a bit of generalizations about her, negative ones, that are not warranted on the DU. I fight that with the facts. I believe in Hillary. And that she is not perfect. But that she is a good egg. The facts will set her free. When I post articles I don't comment on them until I reply. I don't believe we can win hearts and minds without good schooling in the facts of the case.

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I keep telling myself "you will vote for Hillary. you will vote for Hillary." [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

I hope you have your puke bag nearby Picking Dem Aug 2015 #1

No one believes you're voting for her. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #7

So you are putting words in my mouth Picking Dem Aug 2015 #9

Why get drunk? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #19

Because I can't stand Clinton, but I'll vote her in Picking Dem Aug 2015 #27

So you're going to get drunk and vote for someone you don't like? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #35

It's the only way recycled60 Aug 2015 #37

I hope the polls are walking distance to your home because oasis Aug 2015 #50

No need for him/her to get drunk. Bernie will be the nominee so there will be sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #55

Fortunately it's all-mail Picking Dem Aug 2015 #80

My ballot box is in a middle school... bobbobbins01 Aug 2015 #82

Glad you changed your tune: Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #2

Well, cali should be very happy RobertEarl Aug 2015 #6

I changed it months ago, and posted about it cali Aug 2015 #13

You certainly do a lot of mind changing! Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #16

Maybe she evolved. nt cyberswede Aug 2015 #28

Just like Hillary. Autumn Aug 2015 #33

just like, Hillary! but no, I haven't changed my mind a lot. cali Aug 2015 #31

No one believes you're voting for her. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #36

I do. cyberswede Aug 2015 #38

I do. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #63

I do. bobbobbins01 Aug 2015 #83

Why do you care? Why waste one second of your life on this one person's changed opinion? arcane1 Aug 2015 #42

Don't think that. Pay attention: RobertEarl Aug 2015 #3

That is certainly what I am working towards! peacebird Aug 2015 #78

Which corruption and dishonesty? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #4

I think that couldn't have been clearer. cali Aug 2015 #14

So then clearly point out corruption and dishonesty. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #22

I will vote for Hillary (if she is the nominee). Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #5

I think the Clinton campaign is going to flame out. Just have a feeling. nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #8

It's on its way... Picking Dem Aug 2015 #10

My Brother-In-Law Has Completely Misinterpreted Hillary's Snapchat Joke And Says That.... global1 Aug 2015 #23

I found that to be an odd thing for her to say, myself. I have not made any judgement on it yet. nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #34

Tell him to vote for Bernie instead... n/t Picking Dem Aug 2015 #81

I am thinking implosion. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #32

It's like working in a fireworks manufacture, shit happens when you get careless or lazy. nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #43

Which is why Biden is warming up in the bullpen. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #41

That is a GOP meme that she is dishonest and corrupt. applegrove Aug 2015 #11

no, it's my observation over the years. I don't pay any attention to what rebukes say. cali Aug 2015 #15

Bosnian snipers just called to say thanks LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #21

One misremembering in a thirty year career? applegrove Aug 2015 #44

Really? artislife Aug 2015 #62

Really? She's been in politics since 1970. One gaffe applegrove Aug 2015 #67

Not one artislife Aug 2015 #68

A gaffe is saying "Hello Cleveland!" when you're in Cincinnati... cyberswede Aug 2015 #72

Doesn't everyone accidentally mispeak an entire narrative into existence? MoveIt Aug 2015 #85

It wasn't a gaffe, it was a lie LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #86

Mainly, it was just dumb artislife Aug 2015 #94

Exactly MissDeeds Aug 2015 #99

. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #39

The American people were also fooled into Iraq. I think many will applegrove Aug 2015 #45

How low must our standards for her be? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #58

Don't know about the bankruptcy issue. She is the most experienced applegrove Aug 2015 #60

Maybe you were fooled into Iraq.. frylock Aug 2015 #76

And the moderates in the middle? The ones who win or lose the election? They supported applegrove Aug 2015 #79

I guess you missed all those Americans who weren't fooled and protested against Autumn Aug 2015 #89

No I didn't miss them. You were right. I was wrong. Point is the Presidency will be won by how applegrove Aug 2015 #91

Aren't you the poster who does OPs on emailgate? artislife Aug 2015 #95

Nope. I just posted breaking news. Because people would be discussing it. And I wanted DUers to get applegrove Aug 2015 #96

That's cool. artislife Aug 2015 #97

As an American who wasn't fooled then MoveIt Aug 2015 #102

wow. what a hateful comment to make about our democratic candidate, and all in your opinion. seabeyond Aug 2015 #12

why yes, it's my opinion. it's not, however,hate based. cali Aug 2015 #18

i have no way of telling if it is hate based. it is an hatefull comment made about our democratic seabeyond Aug 2015 #25

One of our democratic candidates. nt cyberswede Aug 2015 #20

yes. there are others. i am cheering for omalley. clinton is a democratic candidate. seabeyond Aug 2015 #30

Glad you're on board. Putting a Dem in the WH in 2016 is the most important thing. DanTex Aug 2015 #17

Better to be in a vehicle headed for the cliff slower than faster. cali Aug 2015 #26

Well, maybe, but you have to make the best decision available. DanTex Aug 2015 #29

Once you cross the edge, gravity works the same way TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #48

Whatever. JoePhilly Aug 2015 #24

Jury Results pokerfan Aug 2015 #40

Juror #3 is right on. nt cyberswede Aug 2015 #47

damn, I think I better keep my opinion of her to myself m-lekktor Aug 2015 #56

How about this... quickesst Aug 2015 #46

I keep telling myself something different. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #49

That's what the Hillary supporters told you, right? n/t Nedsdag Aug 2015 #51

You've just been taken in by right wing media moobu2 Aug 2015 #52

uh no. I don't do media. I'm kind of a cali Aug 2015 #100

I like the 'bottom line' in the OP; HRC is the likely candidate. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2015 #53

She's said that for months. cyberswede Aug 2015 #73

I honestly believe that a vote for Hillary is a vote to maintain the status quo, Gigabear Aug 2015 #54

You've been campaigning against Clinton for years... MerryBlooms Aug 2015 #57

It doesn't matter in Vermont MaggieD Aug 2015 #59

Yet another useless flamebait post from cali GitRDun Aug 2015 #61

Go Bernie! cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #64

lol at least you haven't lost your sense of humor...nice post CP GitRDun Aug 2015 #69

When we lose our sense of humor, we're all done for. I'm so loving primary season! cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #70

Hopefully we'll be fine, I can still laugh. GitRDun Aug 2015 #71

no, I consider it an informed opinion rooted in facts. cali Aug 2015 #101

Of course you do, lol GitRDun Aug 2015 #104

You may become energized after the Primaries. FarPoint Aug 2015 #65

I personally expect to become energized... about downticket races. Jim Lane Aug 2015 #92

Yeah but sure hope I don't have to. ibegurpard Aug 2015 #66

Me neither. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #74

I keep telling myself Pastiche423 Aug 2015 #75

I don't tell myself that. I am trying to convince myself that voting for her is better than a repuke peacebird Aug 2015 #77

"What does it matter?" The result in 2000 mattered to a whole lot of Iraqis. Jim Lane Aug 2015 #93

If she's the nominee I'll vote for her gladly. DemocraticWing Aug 2015 #84

If she wins the primary then we must vote for her awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #87

If you really feel that way, don't bother...we'll have plenty of Democrats to take your place... brooklynite Aug 2015 #88

Very happy you evolved on this topic. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #90

Heh! ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #98

That "Find out where I stand on TPP after I'm elected" thing really alienated a lot of folks! TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #103