2016 Postmortem

peacebird

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10. She's for GMO's & monsanto, more H1B visas... She's not anywhere near 'a thousand times' better

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Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:25 AM

Aug 2015

She would simply be status quo....

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If Bernie loses and Hillary wins the general election, [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

That is true. still_one Aug 2015 #1

Really hope so. Those activists damn well better not pout. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #2

She's for GMO's & monsanto, more H1B visas... She's not anywhere near 'a thousand times' better peacebird Aug 2015 #10

+1, Establishment harun Aug 2015 #20

She would simply be status quo.. left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #22

So you don't believe things can get worse?? staggerleem Aug 2015 #67

+1 DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #74

What's worse than status quo? Going backwards. n/t Beartracks Aug 2015 #89

Yes. And that is exactly what we would be faced with, with a gop presidency. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #100

I wouldn't mind going backwards to the time when.. bvar22 Aug 2015 #110

You are actually talking about a pretty tight window, bvar. staggerleem Aug 2015 #112

It was a tight window, bvar22 Aug 2015 #129

There is still a sizeable segment of the Democratic Party ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #131

Good post. The Bernie phenomenon has to empower them. Maybe 2016 will grow them. Hortensis Aug 2015 #138

I would like to call your attention to two items. bvar22 Aug 2015 #130

OK, I'll grant you that FDR codified racial equality ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #132

"All of these rights spell security" -- and also, really, freedom. n/t Beartracks Aug 2015 #118

Because, as FDR ALSO siad ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #133

To the benefit of one group at the heads of others. Lancero Aug 2015 #134

Utter and complete nonsense... AOR Aug 2015 #136

It's not related to his platform. Lancero Aug 2015 #137

You seem to be missing the point Lancero... AOR Aug 2015 #139

Ok then, lets return to the 30's and 40s... Lancero Aug 2015 #140

You say --"But if you want to argue that the 30s and 40s are great for AA's and women" AOR Aug 2015 #141

Someone wants to see more of this... Lancero Aug 2015 #142

Well...like I said it's a different time... AOR Aug 2015 #143

NO. Supreme Court FTW. n/t yodermon Aug 2015 #111

She is a motivator, the problem is she motivates the wrong side. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #36

I agree - when I see what the Rs have to offer I am terrified. I will also jwirr Aug 2015 #80

+1000s DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #86

I'll go a step farther ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #98

Oh jesus Robbins Aug 2015 #106

Yes susej ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #108

The way I see it, it's the responsibility of the Democratic Party to nominate someone that rhett o rick Aug 2015 #116

I would like to see a movement of 'Social Democrats' emerge from this ... Trajan Aug 2015 #3

..... merrily Aug 2015 #11

You get a gold star ORjohn Aug 2015 #144

For some of us he already was that person. Agschmid Aug 2015 #4

Agreed. nt onehandle Aug 2015 #5

Yes, that will be the silver-lining to a very dark cloud. Business as usual. leveymg Aug 2015 #6

That will be great. DanTex Aug 2015 #7

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts... tularetom Aug 2015 #8

Interesting prophecy ORjohn Aug 2015 #145

I think you're right on this. GitRDun Aug 2015 #9

maybe, but Doctor_J Aug 2015 #12

Unfortunately, what doesn't kill the privateers probably does makes them stronger. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #92

His endorsement of Hillary will be very valuable...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #13

Heh, heh JohnnyLib2 Aug 2015 #14

yes it will be, and anyone who doesn't think he'll leverage that to the max cali Aug 2015 #17

I would not count on that at all. djean111 Aug 2015 #16

But you're just one person. Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #18

Yes, I am only one person, and, as a result, insignificant. I got that. djean111 Aug 2015 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #23

If that happens Robbins Aug 2015 #15

I'd rather head toward the precipice something short of full speed cali Aug 2015 #21

I've said for a long time that we are headed for a cliff and that the Republicans A Simple Game Aug 2015 #49

If they can't work with others, they will get nothing of what they want treestar Aug 2015 #124

If he loses, there is no point in keeping the plantation running. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #19

WOW Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #29

We had a chance when Carter was President, but too many thought Reagan would be better. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #55

You saw what happened when Gore gave it up jeepers Aug 2015 #107

Foot? Fuddnik Aug 2015 #34

*snort* yeah, I thought about that, but I think this piggybank for the bank$ter/donors jtuck004 Aug 2015 #61

good grief it's not that bad treestar Aug 2015 #123

If That Happens... It Will Be Real Interesting To See Him Speak At The Convention... WillyT Aug 2015 #24

If Bernie loses the primary jeepers Aug 2015 #25

This is a really good post. Looks like you've been here for a bit, so this is a little late, but... Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #31

Which is why he should have run as a third party... Historic NY Aug 2015 #69

How many Senate endorsements does Bernie have? Renew Deal Aug 2015 #26

What was the favorability rating of Congress again? frylock Aug 2015 #28

And yet, We D. People keep putting them back in office ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #32

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different. frylock Aug 2015 #47

Terrible, and yet 90+% of them are re-elected. Renew Deal Aug 2015 #77

What options do people have? frylock Aug 2015 #84

Who will he have to work with if he's (cough cough) elected President? George II Aug 2015 #115

You think he won't get endorsements druidity33 Aug 2015 #120

For starters, they won't be investigating him about Benghazi and email-gate. djean111 Aug 2015 #125

Even his fellow New England INDEPENDENT colleague in the Senate, Angus King of Maine... George II Aug 2015 #126

Well, you are going to vote for Hillary, and you will not succeed in changing even one djean111 Aug 2015 #128

that makes no difference whatsoever. you are aware that congress is held in major cali Aug 2015 #35

Bernie Sanders has a Posse.. frylock Aug 2015 #46

I am aware of the disatisfaction with other peoples congressmembers. Renew Deal Aug 2015 #81

no, it's really not at all comparable. Paul is a libertarian in a party that has cali Aug 2015 #88

He has zero MaggieD Aug 2015 #40

Where did you come up with the "doesn't play well with others" idea? Renew Deal Aug 2015 #85

Oddly the Senate does not elect the President. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #54

Those are all good examples other than JFK, RFK, Obama, and Ford. Renew Deal Aug 2015 #83

And right now, surprising things can happen. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #27

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #30

he undoubtedly will give that endorsement and will leverage the he'll out of it. cali Aug 2015 #43

He hasn't been for 25 years MaggieD Aug 2015 #37

lol. And there really aren't massive crowds going to his rallies and volunteering for cali Aug 2015 #42

These aren't the droids you're looking for.... frylock Aug 2015 #50

Crowds didn't elect Dean or Kerry - now did they? MaggieD Aug 2015 #57

it's complex. try to follow. cali Aug 2015 #64

Democrats have been fired up and passionate for change. jeepers Aug 2015 #109

Maggie really hates Bernie on a personal level Doctor_J Aug 2015 #95

Although it would be better..... daleanime Aug 2015 #38

Reading this thread, I see that Progressives are already being blamed for a possible Hillary loss. djean111 Aug 2015 #39

So Bernie supporters don't want any credit? MaggieD Aug 2015 #45

Calling any criticism of Hillary RW smear machine stuff is getting hilarious. djean111 Aug 2015 #51

I think it fits MaggieD Aug 2015 #53

of course you do. cali Aug 2015 #68

Gee. I must have somehow missed the Benghazi stuff. djean111 Aug 2015 #70

I feel sorry for you. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #87

You are right. zalinda Aug 2015 #104

They've been doing this since at least 2010 treestar Aug 2015 #121

It's so true. zentrum Aug 2015 #41

I think so, too. The movement Bernie has started will continue, even if he should Cal33 Aug 2015 #44

We can elect Dems to the senate but the house.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #52

If Bernie can't kick Republican ass as president, it won't be for lack of trying. Nobody Cal33 Aug 2015 #82

No question about it nevergiveup Aug 2015 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Aug 2015 #56

I agree, Bernie's impact will be unmistakable and there won't be a second warning Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #58

sorry Robbins Aug 2015 #75

It depends on how close the race is, If it's within a very few percentage points Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #79

It all depends upon how the primaries go and how long he waits to concede to Clinton.... George II Aug 2015 #59

When are people going to get the fact that Vermont does not have party affiliations??? mak3cats Aug 2015 #63

Then how do you explain Patrick Leahy? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #72

When are people going to stop saying that Vermont doesn't have party affilliations? It's just... George II Aug 2015 #73

Will you please stop spreading facts all over DU? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #78

In voting, there is no party registration in Vermont... mak3cats Aug 2015 #91

Thanks for your frankness....I appreciate that. George II Aug 2015 #105

Bernie has two VERY good reason for running for POTUS as a Democrat. staggerleem Aug 2015 #113

I'm Still Trying to Figure Out . . . Gamecock Lefty Aug 2015 #60

See my reply to George II at #63. (eom) mak3cats Aug 2015 #65

this is simple and so basic a 7 year old could grasp it easily cali Aug 2015 #71

Is that why his fellow Senator (a Democrat), the current Governor (a Democrat), the current mayor... George II Aug 2015 #114

Empty platitudes are not going to be accepted any longer. arcane1 Aug 2015 #62

bernie's endorsements will matter. mopinko Aug 2015 #66

Agree Frances Aug 2015 #76

If Hillary wins the Democratic nomination? 90-percent Aug 2015 #90

Julian Castro, I think. He has been deliberately groomed for it. That is why tblue37 Aug 2015 #94

He and Warren can team up and do some real good! nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #93

I'll wet myself if that ever happens d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #96

No--I don't want Warren on the ticket. She can do much more as a tblue37 Aug 2015 #97

If he goes back to the senate d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #101

Bernie's talking about a political revolution... raindaddy Aug 2015 #99

i agree with you about sanders restorefreedom Aug 2015 #102

If H not B ORjohn Aug 2015 #103

Then the whole Senate will still be of this "oligarchy." treestar Aug 2015 #122

I wish we could end this false meme: Utopian Leftist Aug 2015 #117

Only if the ThirdWayDNC crowd gets the boot MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #119

I think we will see a a very big group of Bernie-like congressional candidates Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #127

No. It won't. But I will still be called an extremist. mmonk Aug 2015 #135