2016 Postmortem

RobertEarl

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69. Fight the FUD

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:31 PM

Aug 2015

No fear about Bernie as candidate or president. If he is the candidate then he will be elected president because everyone on DU and every Democrat will vote for him. And so will most independent voters.

There is no uncertainty about what Sanders stands for. His history proceeds him and while he is not perfect he is the most perfect politician this country has ever witnessed. It would actually be cool if anyone can point out another such candidate as being more perfect than Bernie.

There is no doubt that having Bernie as president will make this country better. He stands for equality and fairness. He is for peace and health care for all.

On none of these points can his opposition overcome him and prove better. But I look forward to anyone trying to find someone better than Bernie..

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Demonization of Sanders Supporters as a Substitute for Criticism of the Candidate [View all] Bonobo Aug 2015 OP

You forgot "Bernie supporters are closet Libertarians" nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #1

No, I got that one. nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #3

ok, mine was worded differently , but yes. you got it. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #6

Yeah...Ron Paul supporters lol billhicks76 Aug 2015 #23

I learned many new things today. Like, Buzzfeed has a "News" division! (Who knew?) Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #29

Gossip has it that Sanders supporters of all ages and colors particularly like Zorra Aug 2015 #64

... Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #65

One of my favorites. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Aug 2015 #143

I've been threatened with hides Aerows Aug 2015 #144

Progressive Socialists are really closeted Selfish Ayn Rand-John Birch Society Libertarians? ZOMG! TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #129

Yep. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #2

It's going to be Aerows Aug 2015 #98

It's already cost us some good Duers. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #99

Stick to the issues and you will see how those pushing these vile memes react. Mostly I sure wish sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #178

Hillary supporters seem to not like supporting the issues jfern Aug 2015 #4

My main point, though, is that whether true or not, those attacks Bonobo Aug 2015 #7

Get Thee to the Greatest Page. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #5

It's the same thing day after day. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #8

Gods I loathe that tactic and it's practitioners JackInGreen Aug 2015 #40

Yes, but it's also ludicrously transparent sibelian Aug 2015 #110

Too many of us take the bait kenfrequed Aug 2015 #180

when anyone "defend[s] ourselves that becomes proof of what they're attacking" <<<<<<THIS MisterP Aug 2015 #88

I do know what we aren't... SoapBox Aug 2015 #9

sanders supporters are intolerant captainarizona Aug 2015 #10

hillary supporters are intolerant Bubzer Aug 2015 #13

I was blocked for saying some of the posters on the Hillary group were A Simple Game Aug 2015 #72

we are learning a lot about HRC supporteres nt HFRN Aug 2015 #77

It would seem we're learning alot about the Hillary page moderators too. Bubzer Aug 2015 #100

ROFLMAO!!! REALLY? Hillary supporters are the ones that are intolerant?? Amimnoch Aug 2015 #116

Well, my reply was partly intended to be ironic... There's a lot of intolerance to go around. Bubzer Aug 2015 #133

Dissing the candidate is not the same as dissing the candidate's supporters. senz Aug 2015 #134

Yes artislife Aug 2015 #149

Same here, Bubzer. Blocked for trying to be thoughtful and sincere. senz Aug 2015 #135

I imagine you'd get much the same treatment from the Hillary group. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2015 #21

All partisans are intolerant. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #87

How? arlington.mass Aug 2015 #107

Are minority voters imbecilic, then? sibelian Aug 2015 #112

Don't forget White Liberal Rascists Vincardog Aug 2015 #11

That one really got my goat. 840high Aug 2015 #94

I am not one thing on that list (except I do eat granola with my Cheerios) tblue Aug 2015 #12

You forgot, "Sanders supporters are rude."..... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #14

You forgot, "Sanders supporters are middle-aged, overweight, near-sighted."... mak3cats Aug 2015 #19

i happen to like Bernie but underthematrix Aug 2015 #15

That was a much better demonstration of my OP than I did, thanks! nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #16

!!! MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #79

That's a GREAT addition to the list! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #17

YES. Anyone who threatens to switch based on dislike of supporters senz Aug 2015 #140

Painting with a broad brush aren't you? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #24

Sorry but that's the way I feel. And I'm a BIDEN supporter, HRC underthematrix Aug 2015 #30

Do you have any real policy issue differences with Bernie? nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #33

i don't have policy differences with Bernie, although underthematrix Aug 2015 #34

A leader would draw thousands of supporters to hear his positive vision. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #56

Really? Which soft skill is he missing? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #71

must be slang for folding money frylock Aug 2015 #75

Excellent. senz Aug 2015 #141

executive leadership underthematrix Aug 2015 #184

That's ok. 840high Aug 2015 #95

I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't badmouth President Obama. senz Aug 2015 #136

Same here, just replace it with H. artislife Aug 2015 #148

Looks to me like HRC plans on swift-boating the entire progressive left. delrem Aug 2015 #18

Carlin used to say elections are just for show and "the owners" always get what they want. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #20

WHAT?!? OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #118

Her husband was pretty terrible jfern Aug 2015 #32

DADT and DOMA were both compromises crafted to sooth straight people who were fearful and bigoted Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #41

Why did Clinton need to compromise on DADT? jfern Aug 2015 #73

The point is, of course, that Bernie Sanders was right on all these issues in the first place. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #120

I guess they figure the clown car is so awful , they don't need the liberal vote. raindaddy Aug 2015 #90

why do you think they encouraged everyone to watch the Pub debates? MisterP Aug 2015 #105

The real question is.... this should be a time when Democrats should be showcasing raindaddy Aug 2015 #115

that's the current party's dilemma: they've run on "we're not them (but don't cite us on that, MisterP Aug 2015 #119

Well said.. We're witnessing a 72 year old Socialist having to fight the leaders of of the ...... raindaddy Aug 2015 #131

Fear trumps reason, reason trumps faith and faith trumps fear. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #22

It's because there's not much to truthfully criticize about the candidate a2liberal Aug 2015 #25

Well said. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #28

Recommended. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #26

1) Throw Shit At Wall. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #27

They throw their shit, then complain when it's bagged up and set aflame on their porch.. frylock Aug 2015 #63

Lol, well said. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #102

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #104

yes. thanks for writing this. cali Aug 2015 #31

Y'all finally admit... quickesst Aug 2015 #35

Huh? Maedhros Aug 2015 #57

Don't worry... quickesst Aug 2015 #59

Yeah. Right. Maedhros Aug 2015 #61

"/ignore"... quickesst Aug 2015 #62

Could you please provide some examples of Bernie supporters espousing views hat are not JDPriestly Aug 2015 #122

Just.... quickesst Aug 2015 #167

Because they have nothing on Bernie's policies. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #36

One of the Sanders supporters told me that I was a bad parent Gothmog Aug 2015 #37

That's nothing! Bonobo Aug 2015 #38

I am glad that you recovered Gothmog Aug 2015 #68

And if hillary has trouble with a candidate who spends almost nothing RichVRichV Aug 2015 #82

According to Nate Silver, Hillary Clinton is 85% to be the nominee Gothmog Aug 2015 #106

Funny, all that tells me is that the corporate media is trying to create the news RichVRichV Aug 2015 #108

So dismissive. joshcryer Aug 2015 #147

It was not "about their family", Josh. Bonobo Aug 2015 #150

There are other people at the other end of the keyboard. joshcryer Aug 2015 #151

Making a Monty Python reference (did you miss it?) is not exactly cruelty, Josh. Bonobo Aug 2015 #157

I don't see what's not "grown up..." joshcryer Aug 2015 #159

Yeah, well that's your problem. Bonobo Aug 2015 #161

Oh, was it the newt reference? joshcryer Aug 2015 #163

I don't think I said to the poster that they were not grown up. Bonobo Aug 2015 #165

You've seen many good answers. Maedhros Aug 2015 #58

I have yet to see an explanation that does not involve the Democratic Blue Wall being magic Gothmog Aug 2015 #66

What is your question? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #124

No, I am asking how Sanders will be viable in a general election campaign Gothmog Aug 2015 #125

Bernie is not just refusing superpac money. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #138

Again, this is a variation of the theme that money does not matter in politics Gothmog Aug 2015 #173

And your advice is that we should let money win the Democratic Primary as well. Maedhros Aug 2015 #142

Nor I. nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #145

So you are okay with three Alito clones being added to the SCOTUS Gothmog Aug 2015 #172

If Sanders gets the nod he's not going to say no to money. joshcryer Aug 2015 #152

Only if you care about winning Gothmog Aug 2015 #171

Electing Hillary is a hollow victory. Maedhros Aug 2015 #174

So in your view, it is better to lose and let the GOP control the SCOTUS??? Gothmog Aug 2015 #175

I vehemently oppose those Democrats who, acting from fear, will accept a terrible candidate Maedhros Aug 2015 #179

I live in the real world where electability is important Gothmog Aug 2015 #182

I live in the real world as well. Maedhros Aug 2015 #183

Do you really believe this? Gothmog Aug 2015 #185

"Sanders has little or no support outside of a very narrow segment of the party." Maedhros Aug 2015 #186

DU Rec. SixString Aug 2015 #39

Here's an article about Bernie Supporters underthematrix Aug 2015 #42

What's really amazing is how these horrible Sander's people manage to avoid personal attacks Bonobo Aug 2015 #43

I wouldn't call Bernie supporters horrible because that's underthematrix Aug 2015 #44

The beauty of this thread is that it is happening right in front of our eyes. Proof of the OP. Bonobo Aug 2015 #45

What is even more beautiful is that the smears are helping destroy Clinton's campaign right in Zorra Aug 2015 #93

This is because Sanders is a great person, but many of his supporters are unhinged Hillary-bashers. DanTex Aug 2015 #46

In all honesty, Dan, you have disappointed me. Bonobo Aug 2015 #47

Find me the Clinton supporters here who have threatened to sit out the GE if the DanTex Aug 2015 #48

Nothing that you say justifies broad attacks on people instead of a focus on the candidates. nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #51

Well, your OP was an attack on Clinton supporters, who among other things, you called "sleazy". DanTex Aug 2015 #52

Funny ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #83

To be perfectly frank, DanTex, a substantial chunk of Hillary supporters on this site sibelian Aug 2015 #111

It's different when the OP does it! Lol. Actually it's not. bettyellen Aug 2015 #187

I'm the Bernie supporter who will not vote for Hillary if he is nominated. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #126

If your conscience does not permit you to vote for a person, delrem Aug 2015 #154

K&R me b zola Aug 2015 #49

Thank you. nt LWolf Aug 2015 #50

My favorite is apparently I am a white supremacist nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #53

Attacking Sanders' supporters is a diversion from discussing issues. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #54

You are so right. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #127

Well, when your candidate takes no substantive policy positions hifiguy Aug 2015 #191

Interesting that she polls high in Iowa. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #193

South Korea is supposedly the most wired/interconnected country on the planet. hifiguy Aug 2015 #195

Well, on the internet the Sanders campaign is leading in mind share Babel_17 Aug 2015 #55

Fight the FUD RobertEarl Aug 2015 #69

Its true; Bernie supporters are being attacked for defending their candidate & comparing him to HRC aikoaiko Aug 2015 #60

I just take it all as a sign of desperation that the people are deciding who they want now sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #67

As a Sanders supporter I don't give a shit what others think of me lunatica Aug 2015 #70

I'm with you, lunatica... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #80

You are right. I don't even hate 840high Aug 2015 #97

I don't get why anyone cares why someone *else* supports a candidate thesquanderer Aug 2015 #74

...except that I have -no- objection to Bernie Sanders, just to -some- of his supporters here... brooklynite Aug 2015 #76

Exactly!! Amimnoch Aug 2015 #117

Please provide concrete examples of the posts that offend you. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #128

No you wouldn't Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #132

Listen .... crickets. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #169

Do you think referring to people as "race nagging" is objectionable? That would be a good place seaglass Aug 2015 #192

Explain which "policy" discussions you'd like to discuss. There are posts after posts rhett o rick Aug 2015 #130

I would say don't pretend treestar Aug 2015 #78

What irks me RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #81

and we are "racist, white privileged elitists" according to some duers Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #84

also "you're intruders onto our subforums because you're just responding to your candidate MisterP Aug 2015 #86

yep. retrowire Aug 2015 #89

Please provide quotes Pharaoh Aug 2015 #91

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #92

Well said, Bonobo Aerows Aug 2015 #96

+a gazillion navarth Aug 2015 #121

Guilt by association HassleCat Aug 2015 #101

Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #103

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2015 #109

Fricken K&R! Phlem Aug 2015 #113

I've noticed this as well d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #114

it's like the macarena on a circa '96 cruise ship - EVERYONE IS DOING IT! Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #123

The macarena is far more dignified. nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #137

Apparently Secretary Clinton still owes the American People a Macarena. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #166

K & R! PatrickforO Aug 2015 #139

Campaign supporters are political ambassadors. joshcryer Aug 2015 #146

No, Josh, they are voters with an internet connection. Bonobo Aug 2015 #153

I have no evidence to believe they are anything more. joshcryer Aug 2015 #155

Glad you agree. Bonobo Aug 2015 #156

There's nothing to attack Sanders on. joshcryer Aug 2015 #158

Twerps? What happened to the "there are other people at the end of the internet" thing? Bonobo Aug 2015 #160

I don't recall specifically calling anyone that. joshcryer Aug 2015 #162

Still, tossing around a term like that so callously. You never know WHO might get hurt! nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #164

Time to kick again. The demonization continues. nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #168

It's all they've got. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #170

No RandySF Aug 2015 #176

"FUCKED UP and rather a sleazy way to approach things." LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #177

it's only going to get uglier. Hillary will not attack Bernie herself. surrogates cali Aug 2015 #181

How right you were! nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #189

If you look closely, you will see this happening against individuals as well. Bonobo Aug 2015 #188

yeah Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #194

It is bullshit straight out of the Atwater/Rove playbook. hifiguy Aug 2015 #190