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41. DU'ers can buy West's books for as little as one penny on Amazon.

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Dr. Cornel West endorses Bernie Sanders [View all] NorthCarolina Aug 2015 OP

I like that endorsement post , the part about tRump cracked me up Autumn Aug 2015 #1

West Hates Obama too... hates Obama with a passion, a cartoonish passion. uponit7771 Aug 2015 #2

I have heard West state a lot of things TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #3

He disagrees with Obama on several key issues AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #7

If you call all West racist slurs toward Obama 'disagreement' then well uponit7771 Aug 2015 #9

It's hate... Well known hate... Calling Obama racist names kinda hate. Cartoonish uponit7771 Aug 2015 #8

Wow, you know it would be AMAZING if you could back it up with actual quotes, in context, y'know! Bonobo Aug 2015 #10

If you REALLY want to know a simple Google would do... It's between all over Google for years uponit7771 Aug 2015 #11

Hahahahaha. OMG.... Bonobo Aug 2015 #12

When 'Google' is their link AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #13

When you google "Cornel hates Obama" what the hell else are you gonna find? LOL. nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #14

Cornel West used the n-word to describe President Obama..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #15

I quoted his thing about "nig*er-zed" below. It is not the same as calling Obama a "ni**er" Bonobo Aug 2015 #17

Do you really think your asterisks hide anything? I think you are gratuitously msanthrope Aug 2015 #19

I thought that might be you. Yes, I do hope you will read my response to Warren below. Bonobo Aug 2015 #22

You thought what might be me? nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #24

So let me get this straight: Cornel West is a racist? Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #23

Anyone who writes this shite about President Obama...... msanthrope Aug 2015 #28

West's arguable critique of BO rightly sits within the black community's tradition of self critique. ancianita Aug 2015 #36

+ 1!!!! nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #39

Myself I have been doing a LLLOOOOTTTT of reaidng nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #42

It's utter, racist shite to claim President Obama is afraid of free black men msanthrope Aug 2015 #47

The black community would not agree with you. None would call what West says racist shite, either. ancianita Aug 2015 #52

The black community is not a monolith, but black posters on DU, whom I respect, msanthrope Aug 2015 #85

Black DU'ers who agree with you also recognize the black tradition of self critique that ancianita Aug 2015 #95

self critique would be President Obama critiquing himself. msanthrope Aug 2015 #97

Oh, please. You really don't know what you're talking about now. Go read something instead of ancianita Aug 2015 #99

Jury results. 0-7 to LEAVE IT. merrily Aug 2015 #111

it's interesting that you are characterizing an Obama campaign attorney as a Republican, msanthrope Aug 2015 #124

Blaming me for not knowing who you are? Cheap. Lumping me with your relatives? Cheaper. ancianita Aug 2015 #126

I'm not lumping you with my crazy relatives...but Cornel West. They exposit similar msanthrope Aug 2015 #131

Glad to see you backing off on the fristian racist shite stance. ancianita Aug 2015 #132

I'm backing off of nothing. Cornel West and my uncle al msanthrope Aug 2015 #136

Okay, dude. Got it. But it's not really about BO's parentage, just what he did with it. Him. Obama. ancianita Aug 2015 #137

Ahem.....my username indicates my gender. I am no dude. Again, perhaps your labels are a msanthrope Aug 2015 #141

Clever by half. Again, blaming me for not knowing what you know. "Dude" has cross-gender use, fyi. ancianita Aug 2015 #145

no.... just intelligent in full measure. But having been corrected more than once msanthrope Aug 2015 #149

"Assumptions,"...fault me for not knowing you, then tell me to back off. You need a break. ancianita Aug 2015 #152

I have studiously avoided every thread about the deranged Cornel West but this one kept bouncing Number23 Aug 2015 #158

Well, they've been "edumicated" in everything except how to shut the fuck up. msanthrope Aug 2015 #162

An appeal to authority argument is no more compelling by virtue of coming from the authority herself. Bonobo Aug 2015 #130

creekdog is doing a rather admirable job down thread exposing your pattern msanthrope Aug 2015 #135

Counselor the words used by Mr.West nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #142

Self-criticism by Cornel West would mean he was critiquing himself, not PBO, right? msanthrope Aug 2015 #146

Well I report on what we see locally nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #147

Actually you are wrong on a multippe of levels and this goes way back to at least nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #100

I think your exposition of racial politics does not need any extra snark.... msanthrope Aug 2015 #125

Got it, just little snark nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #127

+1, I agree with what you're saying... West exhibits hateraide not just disagreement uponit7771 Aug 2015 #116

Agreed. He has deep convictions regarding many of the issues in today's jwirr Aug 2015 #118

Once again, disagreement does not = hate! What a 'hateful' world it must be if we are now at the sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #53

West has gone way behind disagreeing... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #115

....jumping all the way to "hate"? LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #138

When you take time to call a person names & tell partial truths about them I'd call that hate uponit7771 Aug 2015 #139

??? LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #144

edited... West has ODS no doubt uponit7771 Aug 2015 #148

??? LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #151

Obama Derangement Syndrome nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #154

I respect and admire Dr. West. SamKnause Aug 2015 #4

The great irony of the sides that have been taken re Dr. West... Bonobo Aug 2015 #5

FYI Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #18

I actually thought someone might alert on that. And I did leave it as it was despite that. Bonobo Aug 2015 #20

You lucked out and got a reasonable jury. It happens. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #21

I put my trust in the higher powers. Bonobo Aug 2015 #26

Fundies hiding behind politically correct battles better pick their battles, else they show their ancianita Aug 2015 #31

Thank you for posting the quote in full context. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #34

remember when you said "Obama is not a black leader" ? CreekDog Aug 2015 #51

Well, he did of course effectively cower behind "it was a general statement" LanternWaste Aug 2015 #55

dangit, no "like" button for your post CreekDog Aug 2015 #56

Oh, I guess you think you got me on something, but I'm not sure what you THINK that is. Bonobo Aug 2015 #58

Are you playing Madlibs? CreekDog Aug 2015 #78

You have a lot of personal anger against me. I see that. Bonobo Aug 2015 #81

stop kidding yourself and others here, you aren't advocating for Sanders here CreekDog Aug 2015 #88

Actually, CreekDog, could you please just stop your relentless personal attacks on me. Bonobo Aug 2015 #93

Why the personal attacks? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #101

Not just a general statement, a direct quote from a black writer. Bonobo Aug 2015 #60

have you asked Cornel West if he wants his quote thrown at black people by a white person? CreekDog Aug 2015 #65

Excuse me, but that's a really stupid question. Bonobo Aug 2015 #68

you're trying to insert inflammatory arguments and terminology into DU and watch fights that follow CreekDog Aug 2015 #71

Creek, that post was from 2013. I didn't bring that into this discussion. Bonobo Aug 2015 #72

The quote today is for the same purpose. You posted it for effect, you knew what you were doing CreekDog Aug 2015 #76

I don't expect you to believe me but here is what motivated me in this: Bonobo Aug 2015 #80

That's pretty weak, Creek Dog. Bonobo Aug 2015 #57

It was a quote from a Time article by a black man. Bonobo Aug 2015 #59

And you've posted it a dozen times because YOU WANT to say it in your own words, but can't CreekDog Aug 2015 #62

Like I said, you got some weird things banging around in your own head. Bonobo Aug 2015 #66

You really need to stop insisting that you know B's intent better than he does. The language he's ancianita Aug 2015 #96

I don't need to read his mind when his posts pretty much demonstrate his intent CreekDog Aug 2015 #157

Got it there. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #160

I'm juror #7. Any alerter want to come forward and prove the poster's intent? ancianita Aug 2015 #25

Thank you for taking the time to treat jury duty so responsibly. Bonobo Aug 2015 #27

Thanks. As a teacher of West's work and semantic range, I hold that context is everything. ancianita Aug 2015 #29

I am a tremendous admirer and wish you would share some of your insights. Bonobo Aug 2015 #32

Absolutely, he's been bad-mouthed. This was on Truthdig. Have you seen it? It's powerful. ancianita Aug 2015 #33

Obama has pandered to opponents of racial justice. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #49

I'd like to all those that are bad-mouthing him watch this. Bonobo Aug 2015 #64

Thanks for posting this. Catherina Aug 2015 #128

Anytime I can ... ancianita Aug 2015 #129

Good. I'll be looking for your posts Catherina Aug 2015 #134

That's part 2 of their excellent talk. Here's part 1 Catherina Aug 2015 #133

Thanks! ancianita Aug 2015 #140

Anytime because this forum really needs your voice Catherina Aug 2015 #155

As for my insights, within the DU context I'd strongly urge all of DU to read his books.Then I would ancianita Aug 2015 #35

I am shamed to admit that I was only a long time listener of his podcast with Tavis Smiley. Bonobo Aug 2015 #37

Glad you asked. Start with "Race Matters." Then go with his copyright sequence. MOST ancianita Aug 2015 #38

I will if I ever get the chance! Bonobo Aug 2015 #40

DU'ers can buy West's books for as little as one penny on Amazon. ancianita Aug 2015 #41

I lucked out nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #43

Hah, cool. I taught it 20 years ago. It should be required reading for white people. ancianita Aug 2015 #44

There is a lot that should be required reading :-) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #45

Trudat. ancianita Aug 2015 #46

Tim Wise Garrett78 Aug 2015 #50

et tu Brutus? CreekDog Aug 2015 #67

Creek Dog, keep playing to your audience. Bonobo Aug 2015 #69

Well, I can't prove his intent Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #73

Fortunately a poster who actually TEACHES Cornel West agreed with me. Bonobo Aug 2015 #83

I was responding to that poster Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #87

You are welcome. Bonobo Aug 2015 #92

i'm not the alerter but it's a long time pattern CreekDog Aug 2015 #74

You and I don't agree on much.....but this, yeah. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #91

Yeah, I saw that... sibelian Aug 2015 #164

Dude. one of them was a wait for it... lawyer for the Obama campaign! Bonobo Aug 2015 #165

West is a great intellectual cprise Aug 2015 #6

Dr. West has such deep insights into society. He is truly amazing. Bonobo Aug 2015 #16

Agreed. He believes in the the prophetic faith that has historically empowered black people. ancianita Aug 2015 #30

Good. It will keep him away from Hillary. leftofcool Aug 2015 #48

... SidDithers Aug 2015 #54

What a great progressive you are. Do you find his image funny, Sid? Bonobo Aug 2015 #61

I find him funny... SidDithers Aug 2015 #63

I'm certainly willing to CONSIDER that he is an anti-semite. But until I saw some evidence, I would Bonobo Aug 2015 #70

He was the featured speaker at the Million Muslim March, on Sept 11, 2013... SidDithers Aug 2015 #77

I would call that inconclusive. Bonobo Aug 2015 #82

It IS inconclusive. West's talks with anti-semites is to build consciousness/common ground. It's a ancianita Aug 2015 #104

I am glad I was skeptical. I can smell anti-semitism. It comes from years of being victimized by it. Bonobo Aug 2015 #105

Sid would not know about that even if it snuck up and tapped him in the head. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #112

I guess all my local AA community is antisemitic by your logic nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #106

Are you defending Kevin Barrett, nadin? SidDithers Aug 2015 #107

Nah I am just using your pretzel logic nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #108

You don't know who Barrett is... SidDithers Aug 2015 #109

I am using your guilt by association pretzel logic Sid nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #110

And sometimes, those who choose to associate with nutbar anti-Semites like Kevin Barrett... SidDithers Aug 2015 #120

Again, by your logic my local community is hate filled nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #122

Sid, are you Jewish? The real Sid Dithers was of course, so maybe you are. Bonobo Aug 2015 #123

Just stop. Casting a stereotype on a black scholar without giving credibility to Black-Jewish ancianita Aug 2015 #113

He is a black white thinker kind of a person nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #114

It's the mocking of posters that never helps DU. DU's whites HAVE to have race discussions worthy ancianita Aug 2015 #117

And he is not even American, he is Canadian nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #119

Hah! Guilt by association posters will have to account for their own. And no standing here, even! ancianita Aug 2015 #121

Read West's chapt., "Black-Jewish Relations" from "Race Matters" before you call him an anti-semite. ancianita Aug 2015 #98

I am sure I will beat him to it. Thanks for the heads up. Bonobo Aug 2015 #102

Is that an angry black man? Yup...Sid nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #75

You're still here? I thought you quit DU again yesterday...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #79

Even more snark nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #86

I can't believe I am being attack swarmed on this thread for defending Cornel West. Bonobo Aug 2015 #84

Oh I was called that on saturday nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #89

for using him CreekDog Aug 2015 #90

Are you done yet? I have gone out of my way to explain EXACTLY what prompted me to defend him. Bonobo Aug 2015 #94

You have added nothing to this discussion nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #103

These are acts of desparation LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #143

Worst. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #150

Calling Cornel West racist is despicable. Worse, we have posters calling him a "coon" Catherina Aug 2015 #153

If that incident doesn't make it crystal clear what their true motives are... sibelian Aug 2015 #167

Believe it. West speaks against neoliberalism, miltarism, exploitation, privatization and war Catherina Aug 2015 #156

You don't understand, he's one of the NASTY black people. sibelian Aug 2015 #163

Yes, shut up and let black people talk about it! Just not THAT black guy! Bonobo Aug 2015 #166

K&R -- glad to see the endorsement senz Aug 2015 #159

Hey, why aren't there over 100 recs for this thread? Metric System Aug 2015 #161