2016 Postmortem

George II

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62. That is exactly that - if she's SO bad why is she so far ahead of Sanders and the other candidates?

Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:53 PM

Aug 2015

And while her lead is presumably "falling" and we were told that the huge lead was because of Sanders' name recognition and the fact that the undecided category was so big. But the undecided voter number is dropping and Sanders has been all over the news the last month or more.

The fact is Hillary Clinton is still the most desirable candidate in the eyes of voting Democrats.

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By 61% to 34% voters in the newest Quinnipiac poll say Hillary is not honest [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

it brings another word to mind....vulnerable virtualobserver Aug 2015 #1

I like your sig graphic and have a bumper sticker you may enjoy Dragonfli Aug 2015 #8

You can't defend yourself from smears when only ~34% believe you. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #2

In 2008, Obama said: "47 percent of the country against her. That's a hard place to start if you leveymg Aug 2015 #58

I saw this bumpersticker this morning roguevalley Aug 2015 #90

That's only because you can't trust her. morningfog Aug 2015 #3

Yawn ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #4

Quinnipiac poll is a respectable polling organization. MBS Aug 2015 #6

Many people would love it to be a "big problem", but it really isn't nor will it ever be. George II Aug 2015 #10

do post evidence of that claim cali Aug 2015 #13

The ballot will simply have the two names and their affilliation: George II Aug 2015 #19

... ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #24

And theres your problem right there Genghis Khan Aug 2015 #34

Because the only way voters could have an opinion about "unfavorability" jeff47 Aug 2015 #38

Where do you get that offensive "contempt" angle? Who do I have "contempt" for? George II Aug 2015 #52

It's entirely possible that the ballot will look like that tularetom Aug 2015 #63

Again, going back to the polls, Clinton is leading each of the republicans..... George II Aug 2015 #66

Kery is gonna win in a fucking landslide!! pocoloco Aug 2015 #79

Yes it is. 840high Aug 2015 #37

do tell. what does the MSM have to do with Quinnipiac? cali Aug 2015 #12

Sorry, it's not an enourmous problem -- since you mentioned MSM ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #25

What do you expect after months of relentless attacks moobu2 Aug 2015 #5

And the attacks will stop when she runs in the general?? Paka Aug 2015 #7

She's shown that she can successfully repel the attacks, and has been repelling them for........ George II Aug 2015 #15

She didn't repel them well enough to beat Obama. Lorien Aug 2015 #88

It was a totally different situation in 2008, and even then she barely lost. George II Aug 2015 #93

bwahaha. anyone who thinks that attacks by Sanders supporters cali Aug 2015 #14

Then why do you consistently post anti-Hillary OPs and very few pro-Sanders OPs? George II Aug 2015 #16

that is simply false, and proportionately there are far fucking more Bernie bashing cali Aug 2015 #21

Check your ignore filter Fearless Aug 2015 #28

Ohh those awful Bernie supporters! Fearless Aug 2015 #27

She wouldn't look so awful if the mirror Sanders is holding up to her candidacy weren't so clear. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #71

I expect better politics from her, moobu2. she has dragged out the email thing and it roguevalley Aug 2015 #91

Could be why Biden has been in_cog_ni_to Aug 2015 #9

Yet in the matchups, she still defeats the 'pugs, so it isnt the problem you make it out to be. stevenleser Aug 2015 #11

she is within the margin of error cali Aug 2015 #17

She hasn't even started campaigning. I'm not worried. Once there is a GOP nominee and folks get stevenleser Aug 2015 #20

She's been campaigning since 07, if not earlier n/t ram2008 Aug 2015 #31

That's a cute thing to say, but inaccurate. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #35

So you admit she thinks she can coast to a nomination? Fearless Aug 2015 #32

I'm really not sure how you got that from what I wrote. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #36

You said she hasn't really started campaigning yet Fearless Aug 2015 #40

Correct, she hasn't. And the "when" is a very good question. stevenleser Aug 2015 #45

She has all the money she needs. Fearless Aug 2015 #47

That you say that shows you really don't understand. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #49

She didn't lose in 08 for lack of money Fearless Aug 2015 #51

She lost because she ran out of money early because of bad strategy. The same bad strategy caused stevenleser Aug 2015 #54

The mentality that money buys power is foolish Fearless Aug 2015 #55

Use of strawmen is also foolish. And you have done that several times now. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #56

I stated fact, you changed the subject... Fearless Aug 2015 #59

You haven't stated any facts yet and have deliberately altered what I wrote several times to stevenleser Aug 2015 #68

Bad strategy was running despite her then high negatives (47%), now 13 points higher. Strategy is leveymg Aug 2015 #64

Bad strategy would be running despite the fact that 50% of the country will not vote for you, period stevenleser Aug 2015 #69

A couple months ago, I wrote it was really a 3-way tie between HRC, Jeb, and Sanders. leveymg Aug 2015 #70

Trust her or not, she's still way ahead of her competitors: George II Aug 2015 #95

Obama said she was "likeable enough" 6chars Aug 2015 #101

I wonder what the Hillary supporters are going to do? short circuit Aug 2015 #18

what is denial, Alex? cali Aug 2015 #23

It's Alec, not Alex, and you should apologize for your lack of accuracy here. (Just kidding) Vattel Aug 2015 #114

or the convenient Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #30

No worries, according to the many Bagdad Bobs of the HC campaign Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #22

And she has all the money! (nt) Ino Aug 2015 #33

and is universally loved by her Facebook and Twitter fans! short circuit Aug 2015 #85

Q poll: Trump numbers soar past Sanders' numbers, Hillary continues to outpoll all onehandle Aug 2015 #26

No one can will in the general with 'honesty issues' such as hers. eom Purveyor Aug 2015 #29

...and a sizeable chunk of those people are willing to vote for her. brooklynite Aug 2015 #39

Sort of depends on the Republican, doesn't it? brooklynite Aug 2015 #41

perhaps, but many are not. cali Aug 2015 #42

I'll go with polls that don't oversample Republicans please ericson00 Aug 2015 #43

Ohh ad homenium attacks are fun! Fearless Aug 2015 #50

The poll did oversample for Rethugs, as Q. polls usually do. pnwmom Aug 2015 #83

This can only go in one direction, prolonged decline. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #44

The problem here HassleCat Aug 2015 #46

Except she is not dishonest.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #61

I know HassleCat Aug 2015 #65

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #48

In time that will fester eroding her support and continue her downward trend. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #53

So I will ask you since Cali hasn't answered.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #57

Point ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #60

That is exactly that - if she's SO bad why is she so far ahead of Sanders and the other candidates? George II Aug 2015 #62

Her support will continue to fade. Hence the Biden talk. morningfog Aug 2015 #67

I would like to see the polling broken down by gender. grasswire Aug 2015 #75

And looks like MaggieD is off the air ... (transparency page is shown) short circuit Aug 2015 #86

And you point this out ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #104

... SidDithers Aug 2015 #111

Welcome to DU. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #116

that stinks for the hillary fans retrowire Aug 2015 #72

61% including Republicans sounds really good to me. Whatever the negative comment the Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #73

The news media has been hammering her with the false email story for months. pnwmom Aug 2015 #74

Quite right. MSM and the 90% of talk radio that's RW think this is the only wiggs Aug 2015 #82

Propaganda works! liberal N proud Aug 2015 #76

Who needs propaganda? Lorien Aug 2015 #89

HillaryPublicOpinion.png fbc Aug 2015 #77

Yawn. ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #103

I'd be one of them PatrynXX Aug 2015 #78

That poll interviewed more REPUBLICANS than DEMOCRATS -- which doesn't reflect pnwmom Aug 2015 #80

Your chief complaint is that it used 19 more republicans out of 1,563 total polled? lol. morningfog Aug 2015 #84

When combined with the fact that Dems actually outnumber Rethugs, pnwmom Aug 2015 #87

It is not a "significant flip." morningfog Aug 2015 #92

What were polls on ACA? Benghazi? Gun control? Iran nuke deal? Oh yeah, they were positive BEFORE blm Aug 2015 #81

you know I find it insulting Keep-Left Aug 2015 #94

Welcome to DU, in two regards. First, good you're here. Second, your observation is the trend here George II Aug 2015 #98

Exactly how I feel. And I have been saying it as a longtime HRC critic. blm Aug 2015 #100

Why did you use a totally misleading (I won't say "dishonest") subject line? George II Aug 2015 #96

It's not remotely.dishonest cali Aug 2015 #97

I didn't say it was dishonest, in fact I pointed out that I wasn't GOING to say it's dishonest. George II Aug 2015 #99

I'm not going to call you ironically passive aggressive, but I will say a rose is a rose. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #106

Misleading ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #102

No TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #110

Many Sander's supporters, if asked, probably said she is untrustworthy. spyker29 Aug 2015 #105

Hilary - Biden friendfire Aug 2015 #107

Only because she's not, hifiguy Aug 2015 #108

she has billions to spend, and her gender Doctor_J Aug 2015 #109

It's only a flesh wound. Bonobo Aug 2015 #112

The uncertainty of polling Muldoon Aug 2015 #113

Some of this was posted in another thread, so it's not a new idea... Sancho Aug 2015 #115