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sabrina 1

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56. Well, I would say he has certainly been prophetic in his speeches when he voted AGAINST Bush's
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:26 PM
Aug 2015

Iraq War. He predicted pretty accurately over ten years ago, what would happen IF Congress did not deny Bush/Cheney the power to invade that country.

He was also pretty prescient when he voted AGAINST The Patriot Act, predicting the abuses that would occur IF Congress did not reject it.

He also predicted the horrible consequences to poor women and children that would occur as a result of the Welfare Reform Bill when he voted AGAINST it.

And he showed incredible foresight when he voted AGAINST DOMA.

Not saying it should have taken any kind of supernatural powers to vote AGAINST many policies that other Dems voted FOR.

However, he DID predict the consequences of those votes.

And whether people want to say he was prophetic, or just plain RIGHT doesn't really matter.

What he does have for sure, is the kind of JUDGEMENT needed in a leader.

He has spent his entire adult life fighting for equality for ALL people. And his votes show he wasn't just TALKING during campaigns.

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K & R !!! - Thanks For The Thread, Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #1
WillyT!! Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #4
so now Bernie is a prophet? BooScout Aug 2015 #2
You don't bow before prophets, you listen to them. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #3
I thought "progressives" aren't into holy books, prophets, etc in the public square. ericson00 Aug 2015 #73
That's because you don't understand two things. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #75
Well, I would say he has certainly been prophetic in his speeches when he voted AGAINST Bush's sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #56
prophetic... Prophet Bernie.... okie dokie. nt boston bean Aug 2015 #5
Does Bernie speak the truth, has money taken over the political system, are there great Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #6
definition per the google: boston bean Aug 2015 #7
You left out the secular definitions per the dictionary. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #9
You think Bernie prophesized money in politics is bad? boston bean Aug 2015 #11
No but Bernie speaks out against it more aggressively than any other candidate by his words and Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #13
oh I see now...he's s a cult leader.... BooScout Aug 2015 #12
Bernie is speaking against the most powerful cult, Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #14
and the author using the Pope as a cosignatory Raine1967 Aug 2015 #39
I agree it's ironic but most important I also agree that the words are genuine Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #43
not to mention, isn't the reason people want money out of politics because ericson00 Aug 2015 #74
And Bernie Sanders more than any other candidate is trying to get money out of politics, Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #76
I think it's obvious who are the cult members in this thread. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #15
. ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #8
That's a good argument for someone that has none. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #10
I am sorry--truly ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #19
I hope you do and perhaps she will be able to counter the point of the OP with Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #22
No she thinks Sanders is, um ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #23
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #25
No ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #29
It isn't comparing Bernie Sanders to the Pope, it's comparing their messages as being consistent Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #33
If you say so ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #37
Cool, Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #40
And you ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #46
Maybe you should go to Prof. Harold Kasimow's office Fawke Em Aug 2015 #16
Too far away ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #20
He didn't. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #26
Okey Dokey ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #30
This is not something many do on regular basis, there is a wide gap in Pope Francis on issues as Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #17
Huge disparities in wealth and money's stranglehold on politics have caused more deaths Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #18
Wow, not everyone thinks he evolves on issues, really confusing to me. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #21
There is a big problem with gun violence but it pales in comparison to the numbers of deaths Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #24
Thiese are among a long list of which many should have already been addresses and corrections made Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #27
Because of "money" and the lust for power for power's sake, Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #28
Amen. They are both the very best of men. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #31
I find the religiosity of this very uncomfortable. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #32
The article isn't comparing Bernie to the Pope, it's comparing their messages as being consistent Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #35
I read the article. I still find it uncomfortable. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #38
Prophet or prophetic have secular definitions, Al Gore would be considered prophetic in regards Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #41
The author of the article is not secular. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #44
It's a mixture of both, these two paragraphs stand out in regards to the author's definition Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #45
You can go on and believe what you want. I disagree. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #48
As the author points out in the same paragraphs his definition of religion does not pertain Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #49
So it is a cult after all. moobu2 Aug 2015 #34
Yes the worship of money by government is most definitely a cult and Bernie Sanders is Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #36
the pope as in the leader of the richest church in the world... BooScout Aug 2015 #50
Can one be right about one issue and wrong about another? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #53
So in other words... BooScout Aug 2015 #64
So in other words... Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #66
I do not respond to strawman arguments n/t BooScout Aug 2015 #67
So you believe the issue of economic injustice is a strawman argument? n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #69
The person who wrote this is not helping Sanders. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #42
Why would you pay attention then? The Pope Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #47
I pay attention because you posted and this an OP. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #51
This is making comparison of their consistent messages. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #54
I pay attention to ALL of it, not just parts of it. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #57
Sanders supports LGBT rights, I know you know that, I never said nor implied that you should Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #58
Simple ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #59
You kinda did, but you keep going. You keep telling me that I am not reading the things Raine1967 Aug 2015 #60
So you're caught up on a word that has both religious and secular meaning? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #61
So… no, I'm not caught up on anything. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #62
This is your first post on this thread and as I pointed out up thread Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #63
K & R! mak3cats Aug 2015 #52
Thanks for coming to visit, mak3cats. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #55
I often criticize the pope here because of the RCC's homophobic and misogynistic policies. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #65
I believe the author is Jewish but the issue of economic injustice is universal, it knows Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #68
Ah. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #70
That's what I hate about primary season, reason doesn't carry much weight when Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #71
And you as well, Uncle Joe. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #72
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