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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. she needs to take it seriously, and I say that not because I don't like the Clintons, but rather
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:34 AM
Aug 2015

because I suspect she'll be our nominee.

I also understand why the Clintons have a reflexive, almost obsessive seeming need for secrecy. I remember Ken Starr spending 3 years in their underwear drawer. I get it.

But there are a few things going on, here: One is, it admittedly was a bad decision on her part to not keep work and private email separate. That seems pretty obvious, although there's nothing anyone can do about it now. But then add in "we arbitrarily decided what material we thought was relevant, handed that over, and did our darnedest to erase everything else before FBI investigators could look at it" and you can start to see why it's not just clueless people who might start to have second thoughts, but obviously some people fairly high up in our party organization.

I mean, surely you don't think the sudden massive uptick in noise about a Biden campaign just landed out of the blue, do you?

These are not stupid people.

I honestly think that what Hillary Clinton needs to do, what would be best for her chances of winning the White House, would be to stop thinking and operating like a Clinton. You look around at the big problems many people here have with her and her campaign (if you can acknowledge that not ALL of it is just "irrational Clinton-hate&quot I would wager that much of the wariness on the part of people like myself- who, again, not only has a long history of defending the Clintons, but could see supporting her in the primaries- has to do with watching her yet again run an overly "safe", poll-tested campaign, utterly refusing to give a concrete answer on potentially "controversial" issues which the beltway pundits try to ignore, but a lot of people feel strongly about.


And in dealing with stuff like the email situation- legit or not- same deal; she can't pretend like actually addressing this stuff is a mere annoyance, a speed bump on the road to the nomination. It appears, from her comments in Iowa, that she's understanding that.

Poll: is Bernie Sanders racist? [View all] MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 OP
Bernie's a righteous dude think Aug 2015 #1
Well he IS white Vincardog Aug 2015 #2
!!! OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #23
I voted no. KMOD Aug 2015 #3
i think the exact opposite? Please state your point, examples.. juxtaposed Aug 2015 #5
OK KMOD Aug 2015 #9
That's a terrifying poll result. MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #10
I can't tell when you are being serious or not anymore, KMOD Aug 2015 #13
I'm being serious. MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #14
either way, KMOD Aug 2015 #15
It's not "either way," though. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #48
Thank you MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #53
I think Bernie has always been astute enough to understand a thing or two about white privilege. PotatoChip Aug 2015 #28
I appreciate what you're bringing to light here ornotna Aug 2015 #39
I just think he was a little slow in addressing the problem. KMOD Aug 2015 #42
It is about time ornotna Aug 2015 #47
People here have always taken this issue seriously, at least they did when DU was a lot more sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #51
and you, as well, politicize it in your post. KMOD Aug 2015 #52
Pointing out a FACT is not participating in it. If it didn't happen, no one would be talking sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author KMOD Aug 2015 #57
here i think the opposite in the real world not so much.. War on drugs disenfranchised 2 generation juxtaposed Aug 2015 #61
"tone deaf"? Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #8
Yes. KMOD Aug 2015 #12
Oh come on. At least when people were saying "she was pissed, and being sarcastic", that worked. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #16
The fact is, KMOD Aug 2015 #17
she needs to take it seriously, and I say that not because I don't like the Clintons, but rather Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #24
My 12 year old grandson knows better. 840high Aug 2015 #18
Really? KMOD Aug 2015 #19
Really - when I have a computer problem 840high Aug 2015 #21
most young people are very adapt at computer systems, KMOD Aug 2015 #22
I had to, no one else did. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #4
just look at all the white people who show up to his rallies! Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #6
No but I heard that Bernie hates puppies especially when they sneeze. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #7
Pass, because this is, well, I don't know what this is. Metric System Aug 2015 #11
Me, too. murielm99 Aug 2015 #26
Maybe because some people do think he's a racist? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #27
Stop looking for trouble. murielm99 Aug 2015 #30
Look at the poll and stop trying to pretend you can't see what's right in front of you. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #31
I don't know Yiddish. murielm99 Aug 2015 #33
No apology required, how about just admitting you were wrong? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #36
How about you stop replying to anything I say? murielm99 Aug 2015 #37
That's not how it works. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #38
I've Heard He's Anti-Raisins... WillyT Aug 2015 #20
Real cute. romanic Aug 2015 #25
I'm going to kick and rec this so everyone can see who's pushing the 'Bernie is a racist meme'. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #29
looks like 4 ironic, or unrepentant votes for racist ! MoveIt Aug 2015 #55
The last two are being funny. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #56
Ridiculous poll! hrmjustin Aug 2015 #32
new poll. has ANYONE ever, in sanders lifetime, called him a racist? seabeyond Aug 2015 #34
and then i saw two. seabeyond Aug 2015 #35
Nope, not that I know of nt steve2470 Aug 2015 #40
Yes. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #41
link please seabeyond Aug 2015 #43
. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #44
ya. i got those two. i saw it after posting. even wrote a post about it. seabeyond Aug 2015 #45
Another: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #46
i didnt understand his post, mostly seabeyond Aug 2015 #49
Check the racial slur database, the second is the n-word. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #50
imperial grand wizard reddread Aug 2015 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #59
What is the purpose of this poll? n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #60
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